Rupture teambuilding

[Reptiloid]

Title. I am looking to make a decent rupture team this season, since I kinda ignored this status, bc it looked booring to me, like, just damage, so I need some advice on how to properly build it id's and ego-wise. I have every rupture ID that is available rn, the question is how to balance them properly, since last time I used them is when we had s2 version of MD. Some id's were good, like charge ones and seven Faust, but the necessity to drage some ids like Seven Outis and Talisman Sinclair kinda dissuaded me from it, since they look kinda obsolete and old to me. So, yeah, help would be appreciated, thanks.

[DEMOPLS]

My team is:

• W Yi Sang
  
• 7 Faust
  
• Lantern Don
  
• 7 Heathcliff
  
• Talisman Sinclair
  
• Rosespanner Gregor

with Dimension Shredder and Greg AEDD. Strat is to get talisman on the enemy as fast as possible. These units all have 3-4 coin skills which can apply a lot of potency thanks to talisman, as well as rupture count (apart from Sinclair). Dimension Shredder is needed for Yi Sang to apply good rupture count. Spark discharge can benefit Yi Sang, Faust, Don and Gregor, and also gives him charge for his S3.

If you don't want to bother with Sinclair, you can use him for his support and bring K Corp Hong Lu. He isn't great for rupture due to having no count, but he does have low coin amounts and has access to Dimension Shredder, which you can spam for free rupture count even when he corrodes. 7 Outis also works, but you need Ebony Stem and even then she's pretty bad.

[Ekimmak]

K Corp Hong Lu is for fighting trash mobs. Talisman Sinclair is for focused encounter bosses.

[Iggy the Unwise]

Talisman is absolutely vital for quick boss kills but is kinda bad in the MD with ego gifts screwing his talisman gain.
7 Outis is also vital for all rupture team’s cos she is a source of a lot of rupture count on account of her Ebony stem EGO passive and S2.

So here are two rupture teams for you one is boss be gone other is md fun time.

Boss be gone:
W Yi with Dimension Shredder EGO for its passive (EGO itself eats 5 count so it’s not worth spamming it for rupture)
7 Outis with Ebony Stem EGO again for passive (But it still inflicts rupture so you can spam it)
Tallisman Sinclair main dude of the team, if you use him well thous 5 rupture per hit stack up fast
Meat lantern Don Just good rupture count maintenance.

Next are a toss up depending on a situation

Rose spanner Greg for his S2 and AEDD EGO for that sweet Spark Discharge (hit the enemy afterwards with Yi`s or Don`s S3 and watch pale number go up).
7 Heath with his Holliday EGO for good rupture potency and count
LCCB Ishmael, now hear me out she clashes horrible but she really helps Greg with her tremor (not to mention her S2 is gloom) and her S3 does net rupture count with no string attached.
Do not recommend 7 Faust, she has no count unless she wins a clash and a lot of coins to eat in up

MD Fun time, capitalizes on the upgraded thunder branch or rupture fussion gifts
W Yi
7 Outis
7 Faust
7 Heath
K Hong lu
Lantern Don

[Reptiloid]

Sigh, so unless they make some new rupture, I will have to drag those two Id's everywhere, what a pain.

[Iggy the Unwise]

Originally posted by Reptiloid:

Sigh, so unless they make some new rupture, I will have to drag those two Id's everywhere, what a pain.

If it aint broke dont fix it, 7 Outis clashes above her weight and you are not realy supposed to use talisman in regular fights

[DEMOPLS]

Originally posted by Iggy the Unwise:

Talisman is absolutely vital for quick boss kills but is kinda bad in the MD with ego gifts screwing his talisman gain.
7 Outis is also vital for all rupture team’s cos she is a source of a lot of rupture count on account of her Ebony stem EGO passive and S2.

So here are two rupture teams for you one is boss be gone other is md fun time.

Boss be gone:
W Yi with Dimension Shredder EGO for its passive (EGO itself eats 5 count so it’s not worth spamming it for rupture)
7 Outis with Ebony Stem EGO again for passive (But it still inflicts rupture so you can spam it)
Tallisman Sinclair main dude of the team, if you use him well thous 5 rupture per hit stack up fast
Meat lantern Don Just good rupture count maintenance.

Next are a toss up depending on a situation

Rose spanner Greg for his S2 and AEDD EGO for that sweet Spark Discharge (hit the enemy afterwards with Yi`s or Don`s S3 and watch pale number go up).
7 Heath with his Holliday EGO for good rupture potency and count
LCCB Ishmael, now hear me out she clashes horrible but she really helps Greg with her tremor (not to mention her S2 is gloom) and her S3 does net rupture count with no string attached.
Do not recommend 7 Faust, she has no count unless she wins a clash and a lot of coins to eat in up

MD Fun time, capitalizes on the upgraded thunder branch or rupture fussion gifts
W Yi
7 Outis
7 Faust
7 Heath
K Hong lu
Lantern Don

lol 7 Outis is definitely not vital to rupture teams. She literally only has rupture count on her S2 and she has no gloom skills for spark discharge. Even with Ebony Stem, she only applies count next turn. Since she's gonna go faster than most of your team, she can pretty much just nuke your rupture count before the rest of your team can stack it, due to her S3 having 3 coins and no count.

7 Faust can easily win clashes with her S2, which is count neutral. With AEDD it becomes +3 count. Her S3 isn't great at clashing but if you do win its only -1 count. Both of these skills have 3 coins, which procs rupture damage 3 times and adds 15 potency if you use talisman. Only bad part is having a 2 coin S1, which has no rupture count.

Don't know why you opted for LCCB Ish instead. She needs AEDD to not be a detriment to your team, and even with AEDD her S2 becomes neutral, she can never actually add to your rupture count. She gives tremor for Rose Greg but you dont need her due to his S2 having tremor count.

[DEMOPLS]

Originally posted by Reptiloid:

Sigh, so unless they make some new rupture, I will have to drag those two Id's everywhere, what a pain.

You don't really have to. Unless you want to clear the boss as fast as possible, using Talisman Sinclair for his support passive is fine. 7 Outis is pretty bad, so you don't really wanna bring her unless you have no other options

[Reptiloid]

Originally posted by DEMOPLS:

Originally posted by Reptiloid:

Sigh, so unless they make some new rupture, I will have to drag those two Id's everywhere, what a pain.

You don't really have to. Unless you want to clear the boss as fast as possible, using Talisman Sinclair for his support passive is fine. 7 Outis is pretty bad, so you don't really wanna bring her unless you have no other options

That's reassuring. Cause, well, since that time I first time ran into Pequod crew in MDH I became quite allergic to anything that doesn't have solid clash power, and sinclair is exactly that.

[Iggy the Unwise]

Originally posted by DEMOPLS:

7 Faust can easily win clashes with her S2, which is count neutral. With AEDD it becomes +3 count. Her S3 isn't great at clashing but if you do win its only -1 count. Both of these skills have 3 coins, which procs rupture damage 3 times and adds 15 potency if you use talisman. Only bad part is having a 2 coin S1, which has no rupture count.

Don't know why you opted for LCCB Ish instead. She needs AEDD to not be a detriment to your team, and even with AEDD her S2 becomes neutral, she can never actually add to your rupture count. She gives tremor for Rose Greg but you dont need her due to his S2 having tremor count.

That’s why I put her in the toss up, I don’t see the point in clashing (the unclashable lads such as prophet can mess it up) in quick boss killing but you can swap Ish for Faust. As for the 7 Outis, who you going to bring instead? Its not like we are spoiled in the rupture count ids choice

[DEMOPLS]

Originally posted by Iggy the Unwise:

Originally posted by DEMOPLS:

7 Faust can easily win clashes with her S2, which is count neutral. With AEDD it becomes +3 count. Her S3 isn't great at clashing but if you do win its only -1 count. Both of these skills have 3 coins, which procs rupture damage 3 times and adds 15 potency if you use talisman. Only bad part is having a 2 coin S1, which has no rupture count.

Don't know why you opted for LCCB Ish instead. She needs AEDD to not be a detriment to your team, and even with AEDD her S2 becomes neutral, she can never actually add to your rupture count. She gives tremor for Rose Greg but you dont need her due to his S2 having tremor count.

That’s why I put her in the toss up, I don’t see the point in clashing (the unclashable lads such as prophet can mess it up) in quick boss killing but you can swap Ish for Faust. As for the 7 Outis, who you going to bring instead? Its not like we are spoiled in the rupture count ids choice

I put my team in my earlier post

• W Yi Sang
  
• 7 Faust
  
• Lantern Don
  
• 7 Heathcliff
  
• Talisman Sinclair
  
• Rosespanner Gregor

[DEMOPLS]

I agree that Faust is bad for Skin Prophet, but not many bosses have all unclashable skills. Having to clash isn't a huge issue for most bosses, because she can easily win clashes with her S2 which rolls 22. If the enemy is staggered she won't be able to clash them, but by that point you've pretty much won already.

Forgot to mention this, but another reason she's good is Fluid Sac, as rupture relies very heavily on EGO. With my team, on turn 1 you need to use Yi Sang Dimension Shredder and Gregor AEDD. If you are using some different units like 7 Outis or K Corp Hong Lu, you want to use Ebony Stem and Hong Lu Dimension Shredder. Sanity doesn't matter for Hong Lu, but for the rest of the team it can really screw you over on turn 2. Having access to Fluid Sac can fix this as it restores sanity. Heathcliff also has a sanity EGO, being MFE, but less people have it.

Best case scenario is having access to both of them. If Faust has a S2 on her bottom slot and Heathcliff has a S1 then you can use Heathcliff's, and vice versa.

[Joshua Kurayami]

Speaking of rupture, has anyone tried out the new Meursault ID? I'm curious if decent enough to be able to replace any of the other rupture IDs

[DEMOPLS]

Originally posted by Joshua Kurayami:

Speaking of rupture, has anyone tried out the new Meursault ID? I'm curious if decent enough to be able to replace any of the other rupture IDs

Haven't tried him yet but for rupture count he is -1, -2/0 and -4. Doesn't even have any gloom skills. The offense level down isn't really a huge deal either, so he contributes nothing of value. Its a shame since he looks really cool

[Reptiloid]

Originally posted by DEMOPLS:

I agree that Faust is bad for Skin Prophet, but not many bosses have all unclashable skills. Having to clash isn't a huge issue for most bosses, because she can easily win clashes with her S2 which rolls 22. If the enemy is staggered she won't be able to clash them, but by that point you've pretty much won already.

Forgot to mention this, but another reason she's good is Fluid Sac, as rupture relies very heavily on EGO. With my team, on turn 1 you need to use Yi Sang Dimension Shredder and Gregor AEDD. If you are using some different units like 7 Outis or K Corp Hong Lu, you want to use Ebony Stem and Hong Lu Dimension Shredder. Sanity doesn't matter for Hong Lu, but for the rest of the team it can really screw you over on turn 2. Having access to Fluid Sac can fix this as it restores sanity. Heathcliff also has a sanity EGO, being MFE, but less people have it.

Best case scenario is having access to both of them. If Faust has a S2 on her bottom slot and Heathcliff has a S1 then you can use Heathcliff's, and vice versa.

Sigh, considering everything you've posted so far, tis seems to me that rupture requires a lot of things to consider to get it running. Considering that tis probably not that powerful as bleed or sinking, I guess I will need to wait more IDs this season to see where things go. Hopefully new Gregor is rupture, maybe he will be a new engine for this status effect.

[Ortaign]

Originally posted by Joshua Kurayami:

Speaking of rupture, has anyone tried out the new Meursault ID? I'm curious if decent enough to be able to replace any of the other rupture IDs

My opinion is that he'll become a nice burster when Rupture becomes easier to maintain, but until then, nothing special.

He can see some good use in MD though, but that generally applies to all IDs