Sinkling effect

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Is Sinking good debuff or is it mid? I always go for Bleed/Rupture/Burn/Poise build for every mirror dungeon run. Ive only tried Sinking once in story mode when the Yi Sang Spicebush first release, I cant tell if its good or nah.

Also this is unrelated but, why is the Sinking icon look like a blue Schlong with balls hanging?

[Iggy the Unwise]

Originally posted by Sailor Paladin:

It's incredibly good until it isn't.
Remember the recent event? Remember Kim?
Sinking straight up buffs him. But he's somewhat unique (negative-coin, sanity-possessing, boss-type enemy).

Dongrand?

[Sailor Paladin]

Originally posted by Iggy the Unwise:

Dongrand?

Ok, also him, I guess.
He didn't appear in buffed-up gigachad form in MD:H, and I don't think I used sinking against him, so I don't remember being absolutely miserable when fighting him.

I do remember fighting "floor 5 Kim" with "Midwinter nightmare", though.
I do not recommend that experience.

[Angela]

Originally posted by Ortaign:

Your mind might change once you try Butler Outis since that's a free mini-nuke added to the team, and maybe your mind will change further once we actually get a 6th sinking team member in Butler Faust(?)

Well Butler Outis will have to replace G Outis so thats auto improvement regardless of her kit
Speaking of last sinking id, my 6th id in my MD sinking team is Cinclair, now you may ask why Cinclair when he has nothing to do with sinking or even have sinking ego? Well like I said above, i need damage in mobs fight, thats all, it can be anyone else as long as they do good damage.

[Teniente Dan]

Sinking is not good and at the moment, it only have one trick, which is to stack potency as much as possible to make any enemy explote with Spice Yi Sang S3 skill.
Sinking is not good really, because the only real way to stack sinking count is to use Overclocked Rime Shank, and most of the sinking units, will net their counts in the negative.

Sinking is awesome in Mirror Dungeons, when you have sin to spam Rodya's ego every turn, when you are able to spam EGO with every sinner every turn in order to not deplete sinking count. But in any other game mode, you just can't stack sinking at all.

[Ortaign]

Originally posted by Angela:

Originally posted by Ortaign:

Your mind might change once you try Butler Outis since that's a free mini-nuke added to the team, and maybe your mind will change further once we actually get a 6th sinking team member in Butler Faust(?)

Well Butler Outis will have to replace G Outis so thats auto improvement regardless of her kit
Speaking of last sinking id, my 6th id in my MD sinking team is Cinclair, now you may ask why Cinclair when he has nothing to do with sinking or even have sinking ego? Well like I said above, i need damage in mobs fight, thats all, it can be anyone else as long as they do good damage.

Ironically I use Gripclair in the last slot of my sinking team. But he is getting replaced the moment a sixth sinking ID can be added to the team, cause I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to status teams.

[SeasonedSoulsBorne]

Heh, butlis, sounds funny

[Atma]

Sinking and Rupture have very specific combos to them and if you can't/don't retry 20 times to get needed skills they are okayish as additional damage, not great. If you simply want to molest the win rate button, then pure Poise, Poise/Bleed and Charge are better. Burn is in a kind of semi-combo semi-winrate state right now. Tremor and Self-Tremor need a lot of buffs.

[Ekimmak]

Originally posted by Sailor Paladin:

It's incredibly good until it isn't.
Remember the recent event? Remember Kim?
Sinking straight up buffs him. But he's somewhat unique (negative-coin, sanity-possessing, boss-type enemy).

Usually bosses have no sanity (so sinking turns into "rupture", basically, which is good).
Or they do (a certain Cap'n comes to mind), but their coins are positive, which means that, genuinely, Sinking is even more useful (I'd rather my enemy always roll "0" on their coin tosses than take 10-15 damage each hit)

I feel like Captain Ahab was built to soft counter sinking, because each turn, you have to undo her newly regained SP. So whenever you do sinking deluge, if you haven't built it up enough, then it's just going to be a scratch.

Kim was more of a hard counter, because he punishes you for being at low SP, and hits hard enough that your sinking IDs will legitimately struggle to keep pace.