The new Ring IDs look interesting

[e-dood]

Bleed IDs that gain clash and coin power based on bleed, both can reuse coins on their second skill and they both spread other statuses.

Will have to see some numbers, but they look like they'd be real fun for MD runs.

[Reptiloid]

Publicado originalmente por TheMetroGamer:

It's a bit of a shame that a lot of people can't see the potential of these new IDs and only hyper fixate on their random count application. Depending on how much more useful and/or stronger their skills become, they could honestly be some of the greatest in the game. After all, there's a ridiculously large amount of debuffs in the game that are easy to stack, like Pink Ribbons, Maggots, B.M., Nails, Curse, Declared Duel, Vengeance Mark, etc. that aren't just the main six debuffs. They have the potential to give more varied and different teambuilding options for the game.

PM will put a cap on increased power from enemy debuffs, like they did with Regret Faust, so it won't become broken.

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but i have great crazy idea, what if :
1. 2 ring ID yisang outis + 2 Tremor count id + 2 runture count ID.
2. 2 ring ID yisang outis + 2 burn ID + 2 Rupture ID.
3. 2 ring ID yisang outis + 2 sinking ID + 2 Rupture / 2 burn / 2 tremor.


done ring yisang and ring outis now play able as you desire, just a theory tho.

[Damoncles]

Publicado originalmente por Evilmael.:

but i have great crazy idea, what if :
1. 2 ring ID yisang outis + 2 Tremor count id + 2 runture count ID.
2. 2 ring ID yisang outis + 2 burn ID + 2 Rupture ID.
3. 2 ring ID yisang outis + 2 sinking ID + 2 Rupture / 2 burn / 2 tremor.


done ring yisang and ring outis now play able as you desire, just a theory tho.

Wrong way around. Tremor and Burn Count is given out for free by Ring Yi Sang/Outis, so getting more Tremor/Burn Count from other IDs isn't useful.

They're Bleed IDs with Lust Res. support so take N Corp Faust.
As for everything else, dunno.

EDIT: If you can't take Hex Nail Faust, then Bygone Days Gregor inflicts Curse on overclock. Might be interesting.

[Angela]

Publicado originalmente por TheMetroGamer:

It's a bit of a shame that a lot of people can't see the potential of these new IDs and only hyper fixate on their random count application. Depending on how much more useful and/or stronger their skills become, they could honestly be some of the greatest in the game. After all, there's a ridiculously large amount of debuffs in the game that are easy to stack, like Pink Ribbons, Maggots, B.M., Nails, Curse, Declared Duel, Vengeance Mark, etc. that aren't just the main six debuffs. They have the potential to give more varied and different teambuilding options for the game.

Low chances for them to become another Kimsault or Rabbit, they're just regular ids and not even event ids and whatnot.
and getting Coin/Clash/any power from status effects is nothing new nowadays.

[SmallGespenst]

Since Bleed is not a status effect that works without proper commitment I'm going to say they're going to be viable in MD (read:"Just a stat-stick".) since Bleed needs hard commitment to stick, leaving little room for the status variety these two want.
Just a bit of a bad joke frankly, mixing in non-standard status effects can help, but Nails is trash 'cause N-corp is stacked with bad-mid IDs, so you've got Maggots. anything else is taking away from bleed, which exists on life-support outside of MD where every problem is fixed and any team with a few Pride skills is Poise, even with no Poise IDs.

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Ofc Yi Sang is super good in MD. Bloody mist loves multi coins and he can active S2 reuse
in turn 1 by certain ego gifts.

And I don't really run a status team outside MD.

[Ekimmak]

I feel like the random count application needs to be 2, not one.
Because it has Tremor in there. Tremor count is OBNOXIOUS to keep going. The single coin S2 means it's fine for rupture or sinking, but burn and tremor will vanish immediately unless he has extra skill slots, and given that most of the intended endgame content are focused encounters, with banning extra skill slots being a big part of RR...

I think identities should be balanced around having only one skill slot.

[Damoncles]

Publicado originalmente por Ekimmak:

I feel like the random count application needs to be 2, not one.
Because it has Tremor in there. Tremor count is OBNOXIOUS to keep going. The single coin S2 means it's fine for rupture or sinking, but burn and tremor will vanish immediately unless he has extra skill slots, and given that most of the intended endgame content are focused encounters, with banning extra skill slots being a big part of RR...

I think identities should be balanced around having only one skill slot.

We don't know how much count those two inflict though.
Also what? Tremor and Burn count are the easiest counts to keep up.

[Birp]

Yisang looks a bit broken, but man that support passive just made Wingbeat so much more consistent geez.

[Reptiloid]

Thank god they are in standard, I can chill with my boxes for now.

[DoT]

Yi Sang is Actually Really Strong Lmao, His S2 Is pretty easy to reuse. and on top of everything, he gets absurd amounts of offense level up by himself.

Outis is pretty nice as well.

So much for people thinking he was gonna be mid Lmao

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Damn Yi Sang is soooooo OP.

[Zalgo]

Publicado originalmente por Reptiloid:

Thank god they are in standard, I can chill with my boxes for now.

Well turns out they are really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ strong. Bleed is in a very good state since they hike count really well.

Hope you like boxes.

[Snek!]

Yi Sang having a 3 coin 38 rolling skill 2 makes it literally impossible for him to be bad lmao, even if everything else sucked.

[SmallGespenst]

Publicado originalmente por Snek!:

Yi Sang having a 3 coin 38 rolling skill 2 makes it literally impossible for him to be bad lmao, even if everything else sucked.

But it isn't that.
the re-use is on-hit, so it doesn't see those extra coins until after the clash is over.