Project Moon we Need Sp and heal support that not faust with pride & gloom.

[RedCobra]

seriously we need heal and sp support that not faust without gloom and pride that over use.

making team outside gloom and pride meta, that usually using wrath lust and sloth is really hard, because most healing and sp refill need to focus. gloom and pride called faust.

and force to bring faust when you need healing and refill sp.

that is a problem specially people who want to experiment burn team / other team comp that focus using wrath lust and sloth and don't want to use faust. every single time.

mersault / rodeon, is a perfect support candidate because they usually cheering up and changing the mood in the buss with jokes, specially mersault that really smart should great being a support just give him more healing / sp recovery with wrath lust and sloth.

outis / gregor also can be support with war knowledge, being medic in the field. so some " healing E.G.O / distortions " can be fit for them, specially gluttony for support E.G.O also good.

just please try not give more sp heal / HP healing to faust anymore and not over use with pride and gloom.

this is just my minor complaint every single time when build a team we always need faust because she the " best with both SP & HP recovery ".

using faust all the time is really really boring.

[Birp]

No. No. Fluid Sac good. Not necessary. Yes.

[Moyai]

There are already many options for HP and SP healing, such as the following EGOs:
HP Healing: Pursuance (Meursault and Rodion), Lantern (Sinclair), Lifetime Stew (Sinclair), Garden of Thorns (Gregor), Red Eyes (Open) (Ryoshu)
SP Healing: Ya Sunyata Tad Rupam (Heathcliff), Holiday (Outis) (Edit: Blind Obsession (Ishmael) and Bygone Days (Gregor) also work!)
HP or SP Healing: Soda (Hong Lu)
This doesn't even include self-healing EGOs like Lantern (Gregor), debuff EGOs that prevent damage in the first place like Chains of Others (Meursault), or any other ability that can heal SP (even on the user), such as Captain Ishmael's skill 3 or Middle Meursault's support passive. Faust has some of the easiest access to SP healing, but there are most certainly other options available; You just need to consider if the tradeoff of less reliable HP/SP healing is worth getting more damage, debuffs, or buffs that can help instead.

[Angela]

I assume you are new player because Fluid sac reliend is only applied on them, in fact my most used Ego during season 3 is Ish Blind Obsesion
and take a look at these highly optimized RR3 runs, as not a single fluid sac was used in those runs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaqCITVP8yM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxcXk36snxU

[Moyai]

引用自 Angela：

I assume you are new player because Fluid sac reliend is only applied on them, in fact my most used Ego during season 3 is Ish Blind Obsesion
and take a look at these highly optimized RR3 runs, as not a single fluid sac was used in those runs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaqCITVP8yM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxcXk36snxU

This reminds me that I somehow forgot about the signature EGO of season 3 when listing SP healing EGOs... just goes to show the variety of support options available

[Angela]

引用自 Moyai：

This reminds me that I somehow forgot about the signature EGO of season 3 when listing SP healing EGOs... just goes to show the variety of support options available

Greg new Bygone Days is also very good for Sinking team, it is cheap and can heal up to 35SP to self and 2 allies, so he can heal OC Rime Shank completely after only 1 use.

[DoT]

They don't do both, but plenty of E.G.O do either healing or sp healing. Which is more then enough.

[Big Mistake]

In addition to other SP healing EGO like Bygreg Days or Heath MFE, there may be supprt passives you're neglecting to take advantage of that would help alleviate your SP issues.

Most accessible would be base Yi and Lil Bro Meursault. Yi's is a little more conditional but losing sanity passively was a common theme this canto, so his passive is still good. Lil Bro Meursault just needs 3 owned envy and two characters from the same group/company/etc. It might not spread out without a more specific team comp, but it's very potent for keeping your key IDs topped up. Even Hong Lu's base EGO passive can be an alright SP battery for a team that's regularly getting 3+ A-Res.

N Faust and Butler Faust's support passives can similarly be significant SP batteries for the right team, and you don't have to have her on the team to get the effect.

[Reptiloid]

So, the problem with this is that you can't experiment because you can't take a risk by not relying on emergency cheat that is Fluid Sac?

[SmallGespenst]

It sounds like your problem is that you're wanting to experiment, but also can't bear to take risks.
Bit of a hot take but if your team can't run without HP and SP healing, it's a bad team.
You don't need to keep clinging to that safety blanket.

[Terratrox]

引用自 SmallGespenst：

It sounds like your problem is that you're wanting to experiment, but also can't bear to take risks.
Bit of a hot take but if your team can't run without HP and SP healing, it's a bad team.
You don't need to keep clinging to that safety blanket.

Also there's just a lot of healing and SP healing. Even things like My Form Empties Heath can SP heal. HP healing for other characters is rarer, but there's still Pursuance on Rodya and Meursalt, and passives like Chef Ryoshu's.

[Nut]

HP/SP healing sources available by default:
Base Yi Sang support passive: SP
Base Faust EGO: SP
Base Hong Lu support passive: SP
Base Hong Lu EGO passive: SP
Base Gregor support passive: HP
Base Gregor EGO support: HP (Self heal only, requires him to be below 25% hp to start healing
Base Don EGO/EGO Passive: HP (Self heal only, also needs a bleed ID/EGO/EGO gift for EGO passive healing)

HP/SP healing available for 2 star IDs:
Butler Faust: SP (only viable for sinking teams)
Lantern Don: HP (Self heal only)
Lantern Don support passive: HP (For IDs with aggro mechanic only)
Little Bro Meursault support passive: SP (team needs members from same faction)

AFAIK only Don and Ryoshu lack any sort of EGO that can provide SP OR HP healing to another sinner, and Ryoshu still has her Chef ID to provide healing if you really want it.

[Lycan]

引用自 RedCobra：

mersault / rodeon, is a perfect support candidate because they usually cheering up and changing the mood in the buss with jokes, specially mersault that really smart should great being a support just give him more healing / sp recovery with wrath lust and sloth.

They ALREADY have HP healing called Pursuance. What do you even mean?

[SeasonedSoulsBorne]

引用自 Big Mistake：

In addition to other SP healing EGO like Bygreg Days or Heath MFE, there may be supprt passives you're neglecting to take advantage of that would help alleviate your SP issues.

Most accessible would be base Yi and Lil Bro Meursault. Yi's is a little more conditional but losing sanity passively was a common theme this canto, so his passive is still good. Lil Bro Meursault just needs 3 owned envy and two characters from the same group/company/etc. It might not spread out without a more specific team comp, but it's very potent for keeping your key IDs topped up. Even Hong Lu's base EGO passive can be an alright SP battery for a team that's regularly getting 3+ A-Res.

N Faust and Butler Faust's support passives can similarly be significant SP batteries for the right team, and you don't have to have her on the team to get the effect.

Base hong lu also has a sp heal support passive, but it needs 5 sloth for 6 sp a turn, and kraust is a 15 but it needs a ton of lust reson to work

[Caxapok]

Do you remember sp change in season 2 part 1?...

[Nut]

引用自 Caxapok：

Do you remember sp change in season 2 part 1?...

Is that the one where they actually let us see the SP numbers and made it so each SP point upped/lowered the chance to get heads/tails to 95% in either direction or the one that made it so clash loss lowered your or your enemies sp like how Sunshower Heath currently is? Or was that all implemented in a single update? I can't remember lol

some part of me misses that clash loss = sp loss ngl, would make intentional corroding without the required resources much easier, alongside making more enemies with sanity lose their sp without needing sinking/sanity damage, tho then again it was changed for a reason, snowballs too hard in either direction.