The new BL/KK units are bad

[Damoncles]

Kurokumo Gregor deals the bare minimum he can.
The bleed count on S1? 1. Offense level down procs? 1. Clash power increase? 1. I was waiting for this unit but they made him the weakest he could be.
Also has trouble clashing.

BL Faust's status lowers on hit, but bleed happens only on crit. Without a MD Gift, she only gains Poise with her S3.
Also guess it, no count.

BL Don may have a niche but I haven't gone over it yet. BL Meursault is good but what of his teammates.

What went wrong

[fliesabove78]

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Because I'm never going to uptie lv4 unless is 100% necessary. It is too much of a luxury in resources to upie every random unit besides your main team.
I beat every previous content with uptie 3 units for the most part (like the previous RR3, for example) yet, in this event, none of the uptie 3 units of blade or kurokuro can win clashes against the boss in 5.5-23.
I already beat the dungeon content, EX even. With my sinking team anyway. The units are trash if they require uptie 4 because they can't clash against a number higher than 10.

These ids don't change much between uptie only getting there conditionals
which again there clashing and damage still being around average(refer to my previous post) Even then it unfair to use 5.5-23 since Kim is a negative coin enemy making him harder to clash and deal damage against when you start a zero sanity due to the nature of negative coin(see nclair or even Bl muer himself.) At that point with the fight is either he snowballs by winning the first few clashes losing sanity or you win three clash at the start and he just dies(he has a weird sanity gain gimmick). Shows a bit of conformation bias. Also they all,minus faust skill 1, roll over 10 what do you even mean by saying this do you mean they don't go above 10 on one heads or do you mean overall in term of clashing they don't go above 10. The latter is clear exaggeration and the former not even W ryoshu or don goes above 10 without conditionals in one heads so what those that make of them.

[Minh]

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Ursprungligen skrivet av Teniente Dan:

Because I'm never going to uptie lv4 unless is 100% necessary. It is too much of a luxury in resources to upie every random unit besides your main team.
I beat every previous content with uptie 3 units for the most part (like the previous RR3, for example) yet, in this event, none of the uptie 3 units of blade or kurokuro can win clashes against the boss in 5.5-23.
I already beat the dungeon content, EX even. With my sinking team anyway. The units are trash if they require uptie 4 because they can't clash against a number higher than 10.

No. No. No. No.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

[Enfys Ellezard]

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The MD having BL-related gift really make you want to use 6 BL, Outis included and the gifts completely destroy MD3H with slash weakness, slash damage and BL bonus.

I tried Captain Ish at first but with all the slash weak units from the event and the gifts, she end up not being the star of the team and her sanity keep tanking. Poist gift BL Meur with the BL robe gift guarantee you will pretty much kill 3 units each time whenever BL Meur use his Yield my flesh and Captain Ish hates that so much.

The primary use for BL Outis anyway in the BL team is to trigger Pride Res so you always get Meur passive going and make everyone cracked from poise-coin-crit bonuses. She has access to Pride dodge + her base ego and the only other unit with a pride defense skill is BL don so those two being dedicated to Dodge duty if they cannot clash with a pride skill guarantee a Meur's passive on top of doubling Sword of the Homeland on Meur skill with the 6 BL condition.

Hmm, I did not know about the bamboo hat ego gift so yeah, if you get that gift, BL Outis is definitely good because it's just like a mini version of Bloody Mist.

Captain Ish is kinda horrible in MD if you can't manage her SP. I just took bunch of EGO generation gifts and N Faust Emitter it if she starts to get low so I did not notice that much. Otherwise, you can slap Prequod Cliff + BL IDs and it is fine for me.

But honestly, since MD3H solves Poise issues with Nebulizer so the main benefit of BL Outis in their team is +1 Final Power, but in return you need her to evade a lot. However, if you indeed get some OP gifts that specify apply to BL team, then yeah, Outis just suddenly becomes good. For me, I only had KK gifts (and I did not even have KK Rody for this).

P/s: again what the heck is that '100% crit rate and +50% dmg up' hat. Jesus christ.

The hat isn't much compared to the Robe you get from the other option. Robe gives +50% slash damage and for BL units, +1 coins (+3 for single coin) and Meurseult Yield my Flesh become -20 on headroll instead, guaranteed To claim their bone since it will roll 0 on head and nuke anything.

Plus, outside of the gifts, with a 6-BL team, Meursault give double buff to BL units except himself (until 3 dies) which is +2 or +4 final power on S1/S2 and you can stack them. On top of that, with poise team, his 3-res pride passive yield another +1 to +3 coins based on coin amount on S1 and S2 so you often end up with like +5 or +6 to whatever they roll. These bonuses push BL Outis coin to pretty much peak 00 level on top of extra damage% With Nebulizer and 6-member Meur, you pretty much get the full effect on turn 1 from doing 3-pride guaranteed.

I will say that BL-Poise team, while the event gift are around , is up there in term of power with Bleed-Poise double ultimate team, being a slash version instead of pierce version which is heavily supported by the player taking all the Kim route to get extra event tokens. Without the event, they're still Bleed team level of strong as on turn Outis or Don are dodging and not doing damage, your triggered buff let the other 3 BL 000 just nuke everything with their humongous crit every turn.

[Casey]

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So true.
I've just finished crushing this event+a MDH with a team of Captain Ishmael, Kimsault, BL Don, BL Faust, BL Sinclair, and KK Rodya. All Uptie 4, because literally why would you not Uptie 4 IDs that you intend on seriously using? They don't win every clash imaginable in the event 100% of the time, but when their conditionals pop off, they win anything short of MDH Floor 5 automatically.
I actually have no clue what kind of brainrot is sweeping through some people, but all the units released are relatively solid. Even Gin Gregor is relatively solid, even if I think he's the worst of the four IDs released with the event.

Hey It could be worse in the Limbus company Reddit there was someone fighting tooth and nail saying that Captain Ishmael is worse then Sloshmael.

Unfiltered schizoposting lmfao.

[Reptiloid]

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So true.
I've just finished crushing this event+a MDH with a team of Captain Ishmael, Kimsault, BL Don, BL Faust, BL Sinclair, and KK Rodya. All Uptie 4, because literally why would you not Uptie 4 IDs that you intend on seriously using? They don't win every clash imaginable in the event 100% of the time, but when their conditionals pop off, they win anything short of MDH Floor 5 automatically.
I actually have no clue what kind of brainrot is sweeping through some people, but all the units released are relatively solid. Even Gin Gregor is relatively solid, even if I think he's the worst of the four IDs released with the event.

Hey It could be worse in the Limbus company Reddit there was someone fighting tooth and nail saying that Captain Ishmael is worse then Sloshmael.

Anything is better in comparison to reddit discussion

[Jigmac]

not using all BL units and im still getting wins with the new ID's

i guess its just skill issue on your side.

[Sergalius]

Boss is easy.
But japanese captain is showing true sekiro colors.
Just killing your zero sanity team. xDDDDD
HESITATION IS DEFEAT DANTEEEEEEE

[Ekimmak]

I mean, I had a moment where BLMersault was struggling hard to win any clash at all.

Then I realised I had accidentally taken my own level 20 version, instead of the fully uptied level 40 one I had been taking from Support.

It feels like they all work very well in a group, but even without a full group, you can pull together enough potency to clear the event. It's just going to be messy if you go in without 45 SP on everyone.

[Damoncles]

If you're coming here to brag about clearing Mirror Dungeon with BL IDs be sure to pay the clown react tax

[Sergalius]

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If you're coming here to brag about clearing Mirror Dungeon with BL IDs be sure to pay the clown react tax

You are just usual troll as a lot of people on this forum
Steam forums show the bad and good of forums in the past.
GIt good scrub

[Damoncles]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Sergalius:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Yukks:

If you're coming here to brag about clearing Mirror Dungeon with BL IDs be sure to pay the clown react tax

You are just usual troll as a lot of people on this forum
Steam forums show the bad and good of forums in the past.
GIt good scrub

The random git gud scrub quotes tell me everything I need to know, you people seriously think the IDs are good because you took it to a x4 Slash/Pride weak enemy and they died.
When you lose your nebulizer and the event enemies disappear you'll suddenly wonder why the IDs are ♥♥♥♥.

[Reptiloid]

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You are just usual troll as a lot of people on this forum
Steam forums show the bad and good of forums in the past.
GIt good scrub

The random git gud scrub quotes tell me everything I need to know, you people seriously think the IDs are good because you took it to a x4 Slash/Pride weak enemy and they died.
When you lose your nebulizer and the event enemies disappear you'll suddenly wonder why the IDs are ♥♥♥♥.

♥♥♥♥♥ by this logic we can discard all bleed ids becaous "oooh without bloody mist/ wound clerid they're nothing", maybe tremor and all other stuff as well. Or your sole criterion of evaluation is floor 5 of MDH where everything is bloated af?

[Zilloy]

ha-ha-ha-ha--
oh wait, you're serious. let me laugh even harder
HA-HA-HA-HA-HA

[Damoncles]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Reptiloid:

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Anyone can clear MD and the current event favors BL IDs

So by your logic we should judge IDs solely by MD?

Yes.

[Reptiloid]

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So by your logic we should judge IDs solely by MD?

Yes.

You didn't have to edit my comment y'know. Anyway, at lest you're consistent