Ego gifts

[Reptiloid]

So, I wanted to try out bloody mist, and I noticed I can't get both pieces after 15 retries. So, does it has to do with a fact that I have never previously found Rusted Muzzle in the dungeon organically?

[Demonking]

Some people suggested just restarting mirror dungeon until you get both gifts you want. Doesn't sound too fun to me.

[Ekimmak]

Do you have it unlocked? The fusion gifts need their relative starlight buff activated for one of the ingredients to appear for each set.

[Iggy the Unwise]

Originally posted by Ekimmak:

Do you have it unlocked? The fusion gifts need their relative starlight buff activated for one of the ingredients to appear for each set.

This, plus the fact that you never saw it in the dungeon kinda suggests you don’t have it unlocked or activated.

[Reptiloid]

Originally posted by Ekimmak:

Do you have it unlocked? The fusion gifts need their relative starlight buff activated for one of the ingredients to appear for each set.

I have the starlight buff for more gifts and higher tier bleed gifts, but I think it has to do with that I've never picked it up in the dungeon.

Or do I need the one that introduces more gifts to the pool in general? I think I have it for poise only.

[Iggy the Unwise]

Originally posted by Reptiloid:

Or do I need the one that introduces more gifts to the pool in general? I think I have it for poise only.

Exactly, all status ones are required for fusion gifts (They also introduce new events, which can be both good and bad thing).

[Joshua Kurayami]

The only thing that is requirement, besides the upgrades leading up to it, is the 'New Discovery' bleed upgrade (Top right node) to unlock the Rusted Muzzle and Bloody Mist items. Stuff like 'A Journey's start' and 'Fruit's of Labor', (Both top right nodes) increases the chances of getting the items.

If you don't get either of them then you can press the refresh button in the category page (top right side), and if you don't get it, then leave, halt the expedition, start a new one and repeat the process until you get both items. Sometimes it takes a few tries, other times it takes many (Like how it took me roughly 30 retries to get mine today)

[Snecchi]

You need one of the tiny nodes attached to the "introduces more ego gifts" node. It'll say "unlocks 2 new bleed gifts" which is the muzzle (tier 1) and Bloody Mist (tier 4 fusion of Muzzle + SmokeNWires). If you have the 3 bleed gift choices node it should take you less than a minute to reroll into a perfect Muzzle+Smoke start.

[CarThief]

Rerolling could take a while, yeah... Sometimes it's the first 5 or so, and sometimes it takes 30+ rolls (if we count gift reroll + dungeon reset as a single "roll").

Getting the buff to do gift rerolls once is quite worth it if you still lack it (if they don't nerf it in MD4 to have a 24h cooldown), and it honestly isn't worth doing MD3 without Bloody Mist or some other OP fusion. Definitely worth the wait rerolling for it.

[Reptiloid]

Originally posted by CarThief:

Rerolling could take a while, yeah... Sometimes it's the first 5 or so, and sometimes it takes 30+ rolls (if we count gift reroll + dungeon reset as a single "roll").

Getting the buff to do gift rerolls once is quite worth it if you still lack it (if they don't nerf it in MD4 to have a 24h cooldown), and it honestly isn't worth doing MD3 without Bloody Mist or some other OP fusion. Definitely worth the wait rerolling for it.

Well, you've been simping for bloody mist since forever already, wanted to see if it will perform better than big orang numbers from Lucky Pouch + Nebulizer. Like, damn, Nebulizer is the best ego gift, awesome bonus and encountered fairly often.

[Minh]

Originally posted by Reptiloid:

So, does it has to do with a fact that I have never previously found Rusted Muzzle in the dungeon organically?

Yes. You must Activate STARTER BUFFS:
New Discovery [Universal] Introduce 3 new E.G.O. GIFTs to the E.G.O. GIFT Pool,

New Discovery [Universal] Introduce 2 new Bleed E.G.O. GIFTs to the E.G.O. GIFT Pool,

& More the Better [Starting E.G.O. GIFT] E.G.O. GIFT Choice +1.