New burn ids worth it?

[Reptiloid]

So, I managed to pull them from dispenser, and I wanted to know if it's worth upgrading them. They look good on paper, but their coin values appear all time low to even get a neutral for f5 in mirror dungeon. So, are they worth the threads and shards and will make the burn team actually enjoyable in MD, or they're better left on the shelf until uptie 5 drops in and hopefully makes burn great again?

[Reptiloid]

Well then, having accomplished a mdh run with them, I can say that it feels ♥♥♥♥ to play anything else after you ran BL poise team for a while. Spend 1k coins to roll for dust to dust with no avail, so clashes get ♥♥♥♥ on. I guess I will use these ids for some niche situation, like cheesing the Spiral of Contempt or smth, cause burn still sucks in terms of clashing.

[Iggy the Unwise]

Publicado originalmente por Reptiloid:

Well then, having accomplished a mdh run with them, I can say that it feels ♥♥♥♥ to play anything else after you ran BL poise team for a while. Spend 1k coins to roll for dust to dust with no avail, so clashes get ♥♥♥♥ on. I guess I will use these ids for some niche situation, like cheesing the Spiral of Contempt or smth, cause burn still sucks in terms of clashing.

Why not just start with the fussion gift parts from the start?

[Angela]

Publicado originalmente por Reptiloid:

Well then, having accomplished a mdh run with them, I can say that it feels ♥♥♥♥ to play anything else after you ran BL poise team for a while. Spend 1k coins to roll for dust to dust with no avail, so clashes get ♥♥♥♥ on. I guess I will use these ids for some niche situation, like cheesing the Spiral of Contempt or smth, cause burn still sucks in terms of clashing.

Tbh what ids you runs on? for mobs I can see why but for bosses it easy to get their conditions and they have Liu Ish/Cap Ish, Nclair, Bullet Outis, Liu Rodya, Liu Ryo

You only need 5 for their fusion and none of them are bad at clash if you got their conditions ready.

[Angela]

Publicado originalmente por Iggy the Unwise:

Why not just start with the fussion gift parts from the start?

Based on my previous interaction, he doesn't like to reroll fusion gift from start as it can take a while if luck is not on your side.

[H11DN-D4NG3R]

Having done a run while getting lucky(getting fusion options) and then finding the flame butterfly, and the fiery ego gift early, i can say its fun seeing every enemy just explode like a watermelons. still semi rough using 2 of the original liu's (probly because they arent t4 yet.)

[Ortaign]

One thing I will say is that if someone is a new player Liu Ryoshu is probably super nice to have and she's obviously easy to get

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I get the feeling based on rodion's story that they're setting up for a switch out mechanic on a future Liu id to kick them into a better tier, but right now they're just functional for if you want to run the funny burn team.

Actually, I was thinking that it might mean we'll run into the Library Guests Liu in a future Intervallo, and get another set of Liu IDs based specifically on them, who'll render the earlier ones obsolete.

I can only really see them pulling a Blade Lineage Meursault again with Liu more than any other faction, burn is in dire need in comparison to other statuses

[Angela]

Publicado originalmente por Ortaign:

I can only really see them pulling a Blade Lineage Meursault again with Liu more than any other faction, burn is in dire need

>more than any other faction
Tremor exist, you remember them? or you talking about faction in which case...does anyone remember Shi? yeah they exist tho.

[Iggy the Unwise]

Publicado originalmente por Ortaign:

I can only really see them pulling a Blade Lineage Meursault again with Liu more than any other faction, burn is in dire need in comparison to other statuses

Tremor silently cries somewhere in the dark alley.

[Iggy the Unwise]

Publicado originalmente por Angela:

...does anyone remember Shi? yeah they exist tho.

No id since release. It’s been a year PM, library players need their combat gambling Boundary of death.

[Angela]

Publicado originalmente por Iggy the Unwise:

Publicado originalmente por Angela:

...does anyone remember Shi? yeah they exist tho.

No id since release. It’s been a year PM, library players need their combat gambling Boundary of death.

Not even a single 000 ids, in Poise season no less.

[Birp]

Kinda strange how we didn't get a 000 Shi ID yet, not even on release.

I think there's a good chance we get one next season though, since we already have 5+ IDs for 7, Liu, BL, and W Corp, so they prob won't add more for these until the other [Season 0] factions get fleshed out.

[Reptiloid]

Publicado originalmente por Iggy the Unwise:

Publicado originalmente por Reptiloid:

Well then, having accomplished a mdh run with them, I can say that it feels ♥♥♥♥ to play anything else after you ran BL poise team for a while. Spend 1k coins to roll for dust to dust with no avail, so clashes get ♥♥♥♥ on. I guess I will use these ids for some niche situation, like cheesing the Spiral of Contempt or smth, cause burn still sucks in terms of clashing.

Why not just start with the fussion gift parts from the start?

Well, duh, maybe because I get cucked by RNG? I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ restarted 5 times to draw both of them. And on the 6th I've decided to ♥♥♥♥ it, we roll with that circut thing and butterfly. NEVER got dust to dust out of the store.

Publicado originalmente por Angela:

Publicado originalmente por Reptiloid:

Well then, having accomplished a mdh run with them, I can say that it feels ♥♥♥♥ to play anything else after you ran BL poise team for a while. Spend 1k coins to roll for dust to dust with no avail, so clashes get ♥♥♥♥ on. I guess I will use these ids for some niche situation, like cheesing the Spiral of Contempt or smth, cause burn still sucks in terms of clashing.

Tbh what ids you runs on? for mobs I can see why but for bosses it easy to get their conditions and they have Liu Ish/Cap Ish, Nclair, Bullet Outis, Liu Rodya, Liu Ryo

You only need 5 for their fusion and none of them are bad at clash if you got their conditions ready.

No, all Liu kinda sucks at clashing. I've used Nclair, Bullet Outiz, two new Lius, Liu Hong and Liu Ish. Their maximum values of their skills cant naturally suprass 25, except for sinclair. And in order to get them working, you need to spend a turn or two to stack up burn. Until then, you stuck at below 20. Burn damage is impressive, especially with Outiz blue burn dissolving bosses, but god forbid you run out of spammable ego on one of your ids, when something bad, like KK goons f5 several coin slash attack flies your way. That ego gift that gives burn to other enemies kinda helped. Good luck to clash anything remotely powerful, like f5 KK goons, not talking about Jun. That's why I ran a separate BL 4 man squad w Faust, Meur, Don and Yi Sang to deal with it.

When I used poise, the only thing I neded was the BL ids and Nebulizer, everything just dissolved in big orang numbers.

[Birp]

MD is prob the worst content to use for judging ID strength. Railway or Story would be more appropriate.

[Angela]

Publicado originalmente por Reptiloid:

No, all Liu kinda sucks at clashing. I've used Nclair, Bullet Outiz, two new Lius, Liu Hong and Liu Ish. Their maximum values of their skills cant naturally suprass 25, except for sinclair. And in order to get them working, you need to spend a turn or two to stack up burn. Until then, you stuck at below 20. Burn damage is impressive, especially with Outiz blue burn dissolving bosses, but god forbid you run out of spammable ego on one of your ids, when something bad, like KK goons f5 several coin slash attack flies your way. That ego gift that gives burn to other enemies kinda helped. Good luck to clash anything remotely powerful, like f5 KK goons, not talking about Jun. That's why I ran a separate BL 4 man squad to deal with it.

When I used poise, the only thing I neded was the BL ids and Nebulizer, everything just dissolved in big orang numbers.

I wont really says 20 power as bad clash power, its more like Poise and Bleed Fusion can give you 40 clash power while the other dont have such luxury
I dont remember anyone in Sinking can reach 25 power even (except R Ish but you will run Boat Ish for Sinking), so does with my envy/bleed team if im taking away Bloody mist.

[Reptiloid]

Publicado originalmente por Angela:

Publicado originalmente por Reptiloid:

No, all Liu kinda sucks at clashing. I've used Nclair, Bullet Outiz, two new Lius, Liu Hong and Liu Ish. Their maximum values of their skills cant naturally suprass 25, except for sinclair. And in order to get them working, you need to spend a turn or two to stack up burn. Until then, you stuck at below 20. Burn damage is impressive, especially with Outiz blue burn dissolving bosses, but god forbid you run out of spammable ego on one of your ids, when something bad, like KK goons f5 several coin slash attack flies your way. That ego gift that gives burn to other enemies kinda helped. Good luck to clash anything remotely powerful, like f5 KK goons, not talking about Jun. That's why I ran a separate BL 4 man squad to deal with it.

When I used poise, the only thing I neded was the BL ids and Nebulizer, everything just dissolved in big orang numbers.

I wont really says 20 power as bad clash power, its more like Poise and Bleed Fusion can give you 40 clash power while the other dont have such luxury
I dont remember anyone in Sinking can reach 25 power even, so does with my envy/bleed team if im taking away Bloody mist.

Sinking kinda mitigates that by removing sanity from your enemies. They have that ego gift that gives sinking on turn start. And I think Deici Hong can reach 26 with Insight 3 on his s2, no? Haven't ran them in a while.

Well anyway, It's only natural to prefer higher clash ids for md, no? When you don't need to do ego spam galore quite much on f5, it speeds up the whole thing. And unlike charge, that kinda suffers from low damage, they throw big orang numbers.