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The Pequod Captain Ishmael Kit Look at: Pursue them to the end!
So the kit spoiler has just come out and we got what most people thought we would get.
A burn, bleed hybrid. That is a support, that also gains and gives Poise and Poise Count.
What was only slightly hinted was she is a Res focused ID.
So does the kit looks like it matches up to what we wanted? Lets have a look.

What is Resonance?
So first to understand what this ID does we need to talk about Resonance and how it works.
Simply put, if you play skills of the same Colour/Sin, you get Resonance, which makes your skills a bit strong, but if you connect 3 in a row, you will get Absolute Resonance boosting the "skill up" even further. So with an ID like this its wise to note you will need units with shared Colour/Sin to get the most out of triggering these effects.
Though this unit seems to want a Res of a unused type from what we have seen in PRIDE.

Basics - S1 Pierce Envy, S2 Pierce Pride, S3 Pierce Wrath, Defence Defend Pride.
Sin wise, all of these are great Sins, Envy for helping out her Crew and the Middles Envy want, while her Pride is helped out also by her crew.
Pure pierce can mean she could fit into a pierce group, due to her also granting bonuses that most Pure pierce groups want in Poise and granting DMG up (with a side of Pierce Power up to a her crew)

EGO
As EGOs go, even though she can't pure fuel her EGOs she can mostly fuel every one of them, with her key Blind Obsession only needing gloom for it.
That being said Blind Obsession is a great EGO for her as it continues the support theme this ID gives, while also granting Pierce effects, that is good for her and her crew.
Another great EGO for her sub theme would be Ardor Blossom Star. Though bleed is her real second theme, burn is also mixed into her kit, from both her S2 and S3. But also her passive. The EGO is not only strong, but grants her a burn on hit passive, could help put some Burn potency for her S3's Burn Count to use.

Normal Passives - Captain of the Pequod
On kill effects are always a tricky bag for a passive. They work fine in groups of enemies but struggle to do anything in certain abno fights.
But as far as payoff go, this is an on kill you might want to work towards.
First you gain Poise and Poise Count, so most likely 2+ for each.
Then you heal the other two lowest SP allies while giving them some Poise Potency.
Then if they part of her crew she grants them more SP and a Pierce Power up next turn.
Now also she gains next turn a spacial buff "Overheat Gas Harpoon", which allows her next turn all her attacks to inflict burn and her coin counts are not bad for it, matching her coin boosting Liu ID.
That's alot for a on kill, acting kinda like a EGO After Attack if you kill the enemy. Just with any attack, which her S3 is made for doing. As on Kill effects go, this is a strong one.

Support Passive - Captain Orders
A shockingly easy to have passive. If the highest SP unit gets a kill, they gain Poise and Poise Count. Rather simple but should fit nicely into a Poise team. Her passives for her other IDs are normally lacking or too focused. Though once again in certain Abno fights you might want her lacking passives as they at least might be something.

S1 - To Me! : Pierce Envy, 2 Coins
Right off the bad we have skill that does a lot, with the coins doing minor, which is a running theme for this ID.
She gives her allies to side of her Defensive Level Up on combat start. Then her on Use is all about Res. Granting the leftmost skill of the highest Max HP ally, aggro equal to the Res next turn. Both of these help a tank, be a tank (While also helping Zwei Faust and Gregor) but the tank state goes on further with a high A-Res granting the tank Protection.
After all of that, the second coin inflicts 2 bleed.
As S1 go, this is going to be a good support skill, but what worries me is the A-Res needed. So far if it follows what we have seen it may be 6+ a hard thing to pull off in Focus fights which tanks do better in.

S2 - Pursue them to the end! : Pierce Pride, 3 Coins
AS we had the S1 focused on tanking. The S2 focuses towards offence and attacking.
Combat start with 2 allies to the side of her on the Dashboard getting offensive level up.
Then its a % chance based on the Res, that this skill is then followed up a unit to the right of her on the dashboard to make a S1 attack against them. It is to note while this doesn't use a real skill, moving around the Dashboard, this could effect how a any On Use or coin bonuses, like having Tremor, Charge or Poise. The issue is that this is % chance and whatever the X Res needed to boost the % will make or break this.
Of course this on use has more going for it. Having a high A-Res grants a DMG up, while if you rocking a Pride A Res, grants Pierce Power Up.
While high A Res, shouldn't be hard to pull off, Pride Res is a iffy one. Its doable but only this skill and nothing else has a payoff for Pride, meaning making a team for this Pierce Power Up rather difficult to justify and may need some figuring out (Say Cinq Sinclair and Cinq Outis)
Then her second coin inflicts Bleed Potency and her third coin inflicts Burn Potency. Once again simple coin, page full of Combat Start and On Use gains.

S3 - Harpoon of Obsession : Pierce Wrath, 4 Coins
This skill wants to kill, has a ability based on killing, which grants more damage the lower the targets health is. It even acts like a bleed ID in getting Coin Power Up based on bleed. To try get that kill, even more. Thankfully it also cares about staggering the target, making this not only a strong attack but can still work against certain Abnos.
The payoff granting SP gain, Poise Potency and Poise Count to allies with the allies based on A-Res. Means keeping SP high, quite easily.
Its also the only part of her kit that inflicts counts, with her second coin inflicting bleed Count, then the third coin inflicting bleed count, then the last coin does burn count.
These coins effects while helpful do nothing for this ID bar help her keep bleed for her next turn.
Still we have seen how strong more Damage based on missing health can do with Hook Hong Lu, so this will be a strong skill to use.

Final Thoughts :
I am at odds with how I feel about this ID, it looks like a pretty strong support, while Res or Pierce team will have a good time with this, it follows a weird sort like N Sinclair did of having too many thumbs in the pie. Having a hybrid burn and bleed, while wanting a Pride Pierce team to get the most out of her is rough.
While she certainly is going to be a strong ID. Most will only use part of her kit. Drop her bleed, for Pride. Drop Her Pride for Envy. Hell even try out a weird half burn, half bleed build. But no matter what team she is going to sit in, she is going to lose something on the kit.
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H11DN-D4NG3R Feb 5, 2024 @ 3:05am 
wonder how good the Skill 2 would be, It really depends on her speed (tho i assume this have mid speed, 6-3 speed or so) I argue some Ids with powerful skill 1's would love this

Lets hope her base+coins power arent scuffed,
Demonking Feb 5, 2024 @ 3:32am 
To be honest, looks like she's primarily designed for a middle team along side the other members of the crew. Which means of course 5 slots of the team are automatically taken up with a lack of Orange and Teal depending on who else you might try to bring. Thankfully most of captain ishmael's stuff looks to work on any A-res rather than the color of specific skill like Middle Don.

For me personally, I'm mostly excited to see how strong the middle team will get with her addition. I'll also be curious to see if that extra S1 attack counts towards resources.
Originally posted by teamol:
Nice observation as always. I kinda like the direction of 000s being quirky or juggling lots of things while still being useful. Of course I love big numbers but they'd make game dull faster. Reindeer Ishmael was quirky, hooked me into this game.

NClair is straight forward big damage imo, but current sanity environment makes him hard to make a proper show, so he's somewhat (forcedly) balanced. Umbrella Heathcliff is more fitting example of doing too many things I think. She grants
With NClair its also him wanting to be on a bleed/N Corp team while wanting a burn team to make the most of his burn damage. But yeah Hobo Heath has the biggest juggle of being so mixed.
I do wonder how well a hybrid team for Captain Ishmael would fair as she had great burn EGO, while her crew is great at bleed. I was thinking of a Pride team, with her Pequod Crew, Cinq Don, Pirate Gregor and Bullet Outis. Though this team lack gloom and lust for fueling her Blind Obsession well and Ardor Blossom Star so figuring out a team is rough.
Iggy the Unwise Feb 5, 2024 @ 3:36am 
I feel it will be possible to do a weird envy/pride resonance bleed team with her. we take her, two other Pequod crew members, middle sister Don, Ncorp Faust (?) and some other pride/envy id (I lean towards rosespaner Rodia).
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infantMajesty Feb 5, 2024 @ 3:43am 
I was hoping she would have poise too.
Now I can't retire BL Sinc for the dual fusion ego run, damn.
Originally posted by infantMajesty:
I was hoping she would have poise too.
Now I can't retire BL Sinc for the dual fusion ego run, damn.
I do question that if her on Kill, allows her to count as a Poise user
Iggy the Unwise Feb 5, 2024 @ 3:50am 
Originally posted by David Bowie Sensei:
Originally posted by infantMajesty:
I was hoping she would have poise too.
Now I can't retire BL Sinc for the dual fusion ego run, damn.
I do question that if her on Kill, allows her to count as a Poise user
It’s on the skill, so I guess it counts. But knowing PM code I wouldn’t be surprised if the first week she would be considered pure bleed.
Originally posted by Iggy the Unwise:
Originally posted by David Bowie Sensei:
I do question that if her on Kill, allows her to count as a Poise user
It’s on the skill, so I guess it counts. But knowing PM code I wouldn’t be surprised if the first week she would be considered pure bleed.
Judging by how the LoR code worked, it normally checked to see if the page had any "tags" kinda like the skills all have tags, with EGOs gifts now caring about the "Nail" tag.
I would think the On Kill would also have the tag for Poise, but we haven't had any skill that only had a on kill effect, to check if they tag On Kills.
I still reckon Passives should have the tags. Tired of Seven Faust's Before The Tea Cools not mattering for Poise.
Iggy the Unwise Feb 5, 2024 @ 4:05am 
Originally posted by David Bowie Sensei:
I still reckon Passives should have the tags. Tired of Seven Faust's Before The Tea Cools not mattering for Poise.
"This Gift activates when 5 or more Identities have Attack Skills that gain [Breath] Potency or Count." the wording of the IV poise gift, I think most other gifts either don’t care at all or have the attack skill clause so even with the update to the passives they would not matter.
Reptiloid Feb 5, 2024 @ 7:52am 
Originally posted by Iggy the Unwise:
I feel it will be possible to do a weird envy/pride resonance bleed team with her. we take her, two other Pequod crew members, middle sister Don, Ncorp Faust (?) and some other pride/envy id (I lean towards rosespaner Rodia).

Who uses rosespanner when we have Deici? Granted, it has no pride, but much needed Gloom.
DEMOPLS Feb 5, 2024 @ 7:59am 
Originally posted by Reptiloid:
Originally posted by Iggy the Unwise:
I feel it will be possible to do a weird envy/pride resonance bleed team with her. we take her, two other Pequod crew members, middle sister Don, Ncorp Faust (?) and some other pride/envy id (I lean towards rosespaner Rodia).

Who uses rosespanner when we have Deici? Granted, it has no pride, but much needed Gloom.
Captain Ishmael benefits from pride specifically, and Rosespanner has some gloom as well. I wouldn't take either of them into an envy team though.
Iggy the Unwise Feb 5, 2024 @ 8:02am 
Originally posted by Reptiloid:
Originally posted by Iggy the Unwise:
I feel it will be possible to do a weird envy/pride resonance bleed team with her. we take her, two other Pequod crew members, middle sister Don, Ncorp Faust (?) and some other pride/envy id (I lean towards rosespaner Rodia).

Who uses rosespanner when we have Deici? Granted, it has no pride, but much needed Gloom.
I do, Rosespaner has more dmg in any non sinking teams and fully fuels all but one of Rodia EGOs.
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DEMOPLS Feb 5, 2024 @ 8:11am 
Originally posted by Iggy the Unwise:
Originally posted by Reptiloid:

Who uses rosespanner when we have Deici? Granted, it has no pride, but much needed Gloom.
I do, Rosespaner has more dmg in any non sinking teams and fully fuels all but one of Rodia EGOs.
Rosespanner:
S1: 20
S2: 21 / 54
S3: 39

Dieci:
S1: 21 / 27 / 33
S2: 42
S3 : 46

In most cases Dieci deals more damage
Iggy the Unwise Feb 5, 2024 @ 8:18am 
Originally posted by DEMOPLS:
Originally posted by Iggy the Unwise:
I do, Rosespaner has more dmg in any non sinking teams and fully fuels all but one of Rodia EGOs.
Rosespanner:
S1: 20
S2: 21 / 54
S3: 39

Dieci:
S1: 21 / 27 / 33
S2: 42
S3 : 46

In most cases Dieci deals more damage
Well ♥♥♥♥, I guess the frequent use of her s2 made the wrong impression on me. But in my defense, Rose has 2 dmg types.
Last edited by Iggy the Unwise; Feb 5, 2024 @ 8:19am
e-dood Feb 5, 2024 @ 9:11am 
Originally posted by Iggy the Unwise:
Originally posted by DEMOPLS:
Rosespanner:
S1: 20
S2: 21 / 54
S3: 39

Dieci:
S1: 21 / 27 / 33
S2: 42
S3 : 46

In most cases Dieci deals more damage
Well ♥♥♥♥, I guess the frequent use of her s2 made the wrong impression on me. But in my defense, Rose has 2 dmg types.
TBF Rosepanner is still pretty good.
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