How is Lucky Pouch

[David Bowie Sensei]

So I got my first run with a lucky pouch on floor 2. How is that coin power boost on S3 allowed? Rolling 30+ attacks like im using a multi coin EGO attack.
The fact that it also gives you 7 Poise and Poise count for critting one per turn is insane.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3130288443

[David Bowie Sensei]

Bishop の投稿を引用：

Man, I'm gonna say, even tho bleed team is objectively better now I still like these poise builds more. They are harder to reach bleed levels but so much more satisfying when they
actually do.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3138596797

Just seeing coins reach 40+ is such a great feeling. Lucky Pouch just acts like all your S3 are now EGO attacks akin to HE.

[Shirasaka Yoko (Hat World)]

Lucky Pouch is in my opinion the best ego gift for doing Hard mode. While Blood Mist is pretty good, you likely won't have that much clash power to go with it in the later floors. With Lucky Pouch, and pretty much any poiser (although Z Rodion is notably an exception, only having Count, she never gets the buff. Not that you'd use her) will be able to clash and deal decent damage with it.

With some good investments (skill replacement), you can decrease the amount of egos need to beat stages - and you can even beat up certain annoying bosses in 1~3 turns without the usage of ego.

[Shirasaka Yoko (Hat World)]

Bishop の投稿を引用：

SpearOfLies の投稿を引用：

Wound Cleric is still better than Blood Mist by how easy to find and how insanely the bleed damage scale. Also funny that Blood mist is anti synegistic with White Gossipium as stagger damage amplification is way more worthy for it.

You literally start with bloody mist every single time, wdym? If not, just reroll it few times. It never took me more than 30 seconds to get both gifts, no matter what I use.

I mean do people seriously compare having lunar eclipse with +2 coin power attached to it to some bleed stacking? With bloody mist you clear most encounters including every boss on turn 2 top (okay maybe bull takes 3 turns if its lucky) . Often on turn 1. Its broken.

+100% damage and 3x damage (Lunar Memory's effect) are not the same. Unless there is another ego gift called Lunar Eclipse.

[Angela]

Ryoshu の投稿を引用：

Lucky Pouch is in my opinion the best ego gift for doing Hard mode. While Blood Mist is pretty good, you likely won't have that much clash power to go with it in the later floors. With Lucky Pouch, and pretty much any poiser (although Z Rodion is notably an exception, only having Count, she never gets the buff. Not that you'd use her) will be able to clash and deal decent damage with it.

With some good investments (skill replacement), you can decrease the amount of egos need to beat stages - and you can even beat up certain annoying bosses in 1~3 turns without the usage of ego.

>that much clash power
Its 2 coin power, you know how coin power works? if +2 coin power and they have 4 coins then you got 8 coin power (NFaust S3 have 18 power now compared to 12), that more than enough and besides Blood Mist is the best for clash since it affect all Skill with bleed not just S3, and for some ids pretty much all of their skill have bleed in it.

[Shirasaka Yoko (Hat World)]

Angela の投稿を引用：

Ryoshu の投稿を引用：

Lucky Pouch is in my opinion the best ego gift for doing Hard mode. While Blood Mist is pretty good, you likely won't have that much clash power to go with it in the later floors. With Lucky Pouch, and pretty much any poiser (although Z Rodion is notably an exception, only having Count, she never gets the buff. Not that you'd use her) will be able to clash and deal decent damage with it.

With some good investments (skill replacement), you can decrease the amount of egos need to beat stages - and you can even beat up certain annoying bosses in 1~3 turns without the usage of ego.

>that much clash power
Its 2 coin power, you know how coin power works? if +2 coin power and they have 4 coins then you got 8 coin power (NFaust S3 have 18 power now compared to 12), that more than enough and besides Blood Mist is the best for clash since it affect all Skill with bleed not just S3, and for some ids pretty much all of their skill have bleed in it.

Blood Mist is in no way better for clashing (in MD3H specifically) due to how inflated the rolls are plus offense level increases (maybe it is equal if you only ever got base power increases), it's much better for consistent damage, but for clashing, all you need is Lucky Pouch + skill replacements.

I don't think going from a 12 to an 18 is much, but I can't say going from 5+6+6 to 8+12+12 (Pirate Gregor's S3) is ignorable.

To each their own, I find myself having a very comfortable time with Lucky Pouch for MD3H, if you have more success with Blood Mist (I mean, there are generally more units that are good with Bleed than those with Poise), more power to you. I even use bad units (Shi Don for example) for the sake of having all those S3s with good clashing so I can be lazier.

[Minh]

Ryoshu の投稿を引用：

Angela の投稿を引用：

>that much clash power
Its 2 coin power, you know how coin power works? if +2 coin power and they have 4 coins then you got 8 coin power (NFaust S3 have 18 power now compared to 12), that more than enough and besides Blood Mist is the best for clash since it affect all Skill with bleed not just S3, and for some ids pretty much all of their skill have bleed in it.

Blood Mist is in no way better for clashing (in MD3H specifically) due to how inflated the rolls are plus offense level increases (maybe it is equal if you only ever got base power increases), it's much better for consistent damage, but for clashing, all you need is Lucky Pouch + skill replacements.

I don't think going from a 12 to an 18 is much, but I can't say going from 5+6+6 to 8+12+12 (Pirate Gregor's S3) is ignorable.

To each their own, I find myself having a very comfortable time with Lucky Pouch for MD3H, if you have more success with Blood Mist (I mean, there are generally more units that are good with Bleed than those with Poise), more power to you. I even use bad units (Shi Don for example) for the sake of having all those S3s with good clashing so I can be lazier.

It's better. You press button "Win Rate" in Floor 1 to 3, maybe 4. Skills 2 & Skills 3 can Win nearly all Clashes. That needs Skills 3 to Win Clashes instead. Lycan wins in 45 minutes.

[Shirasaka Yoko (Hat World)]

Minh の投稿を引用：

Ryoshu の投稿を引用：

Blood Mist is in no way better for clashing (in MD3H specifically) due to how inflated the rolls are plus offense level increases (maybe it is equal if you only ever got base power increases), it's much better for consistent damage, but for clashing, all you need is Lucky Pouch + skill replacements.

I don't think going from a 12 to an 18 is much, but I can't say going from 5+6+6 to 8+12+12 (Pirate Gregor's S3) is ignorable.

To each their own, I find myself having a very comfortable time with Lucky Pouch for MD3H, if you have more success with Blood Mist (I mean, there are generally more units that are good with Bleed than those with Poise), more power to you. I even use bad units (Shi Don for example) for the sake of having all those S3s with good clashing so I can be lazier.

It's better. You press button "Win Rate" in Floor 1 to 3, maybe 4. Skill 2 & Skill 3 are enough to Win in Floor 5. Bishop win in 45 minutes. How fast do you win with it?

Indeed, I winrate those floors too. I think most reasonable teams should be able to do so. S2s clashing that well will heavily depend on everything else going on your run (did you give them too much offense level? Did you get the level 42/44 events? Do you have anything other than just your ultimate ego gift? And also some reliance on if you're going for abno or risky encounters.)

I don't know why you're talking about clear speed. Obviously Blood Mist will win there, there's a significant damage increase to most skills instead of just one, plus the fact bleed gets out of hand fast with the ego gifts. I'm just saying that I find Lucky Pouch to be more comfortable.