Roach man peak Id?

[eggseed]

Just came here askin': what is roach man best 000 Id? G corp manager, new twin hooks or zwei?

Edit: After carefully reading through the replies I've come to the conclusion:

Zwei is through Jack of all trades, very good overall and gets better with other zwei supports.
Twin hooks can throw hands like a brother of the middle but it needs some support overall.
And g corp has seen better days.
So, after going through this I'll choose: zwei. I'm picking him because 1: the only gregor ego I have is centipede greggy and for damage dealing I already have nclair and w ryoshu.
Thanks for the insights guys, really helped me make my decision on my favorite war survivor

[Minh]

Gregor Samsa Twinhook Pirates First Mate. Gregor Samsa Twinhook Pirates First Mate. 2nd.

[gigastar]

Twinhook has the best damage potential but seriously needs at least 2 skill slots per turn to set up the big damage on his 3rd skill. In mirror dungeon take him with a poise team and leave a participant slot empty and he will go hard.

Zwei is a tank ID and its main draw is gaining shield based on defence level up, pretty good on his own for soaking damage and gets better when supported by Zwei Faust. Doesnt specifically fit into any team except with Zwei Faust who can further buff his defence level.

G Corp Manager General (at uptie 4) is a damage dealer focused on exploiting rupture to deal even more damage, he also has alot of self healing on this ID. Needs to be in a team of rupture specialists to shine.

[Big Mistake]

In my experience, Zwei is the most adaptable Greg 000. Exceptional survivability, some of which is shared with the party, and a spread of resources which helps numerous great EGO (Both Dimension Shredders, Legerdemain, Sunshower, Meursuance). His lower maximums weaken him for the purpose of hard mode MD, but he'll perform well just about anywhere else suited to slash damage.

Twinhooks Greg is a very fun ID, but you need to put a little more into building around him to get the full effect. As is mentioned, it's important to ensure he's getting extra slots first when he can be, and it helps to pair him with any of the quality bleed IDs (personally favorites are Hook Lu and Pierre Ryo)

G Greg has fallen off considerably since S1, as he was a release ID. His low maximums hamper him as a clasher. His low coin counts are good for rupture teams since he doesn't bring rupture count, but this hurts his ability to be on any other team pretty bad. Still, his sustain is absurd. Only recommend if you love the rupture comp or the design of the ID.

[SmallGespenst]

Zwei brings the most to the table, G has good sustain and Hooks is one of the best screenshot-damage IDs in the game, and mediocre for any other purpose.
Greg has still yet to have a stand-out ID, so just use whatever, or don't use him.

[teamol]

Love how Zwei performs against green weakness enemy. Big damage, lot of coins

[Reptiloid]

Hook for Damage, Zwei for clashing and tankiness.

[Bishop]

Hook is great with new damage gift in poise team. Can consistently do 500+ damage with s3 from turn 2 onward. The rest of his ids are really whatever. I use g in rupture tho but its more because there's just nothing better to add there.

[Ekimmak]

I can see why Zwei is superior to G Corp, but I prefer G Corp for being able to feed Legerdermain easier. Gluttony is usually the missing key in teams, and trading it from S1 to S2 kind of hurts.

Twinhook thrives in bleed or poise teams, and there's usually overlap between them so he can thrive anyway. Downside is that there's other characters I want to give the BL Yi Sang passive to.

[ZombieStahl]

Zwei for consistency and survivability. Twin hooks for DPS if his poise goes off. It mostly does but he's a squishy boi.

[DT]

If you plan to play MD3 with Twin hooks then make sure to add Blade linage Yisang too which he can +coin power the more poise you have.

Poise itself it trash but in MD3 it can be godlike.

Just make sure to pick poise T2 gift which +4poise to every one at start of battle and fully upgrade it later.

[SpearOfLies]

Pirate Gregor is the best one but he does require either an extra slot, BL Yi Sang passive or an EGO gift to keep his perfomance at its peak. He is that close to catch W Don performance.

The new poise IDs are all very good so you can bring them in md3. The old ones only 00s and BL Yi Sang have some value. The nicest things about the new poise IDs is they don't get much value with BL Yi Sang passive so you can affort to let Pirate Gregor benefit from it(the old poise IDs really crave for that passive) but you can also get Nubalizer and don't care anymore about BL YiSang and bring Harpoon Sang instead which have more reliable performance and bleed synergy.

[Bishop]

Originally posted by DT:

Just make sure to pick poise T2 gift which +4poise to every one at start of battle and fully upgrade it later.

More importantly pick horseshoe and clover as starting gifts, make them into lucky pouch on floor 2 and its complete faceroll from that point onward. They start clashing in 40+ range with their s3 after that and apply 7-8 poise to the entire team per turn by criting. You don't even need nebulizer at that point tbh.

Actually in hard mode you can get this gift asap on floor 1. Makes things even easier.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3119914157

[Demonking]

Honestly I couldn't pick a best among them personally. Obviously G-corp gregor is suffering from season 1 syndrome in which they didn't quite have the numbers they wanted figured out. So he needs tier 4 to remain competitive with most ids, but all IDs are best at tier 4 so that really isn't saying much. I'm also a little biased because he was the hardest ID for me to get in season 1 and carried me for basically the entire story after a certain point after I got him.

Zwei is absolutely solid, while some of their attacks lack in coin power they make up for it with with a combination of attack and endurance that's somewhat difficult to match. He's also got some insane speed which has recently put him on my Cinq team, that and they needed a tank besides oust to help eat some of the meaner hits.

Twin hooks is the one I've used the least but he's also most fun and involved. As other comments mentioned, he's got by far the highest damage potential and my regularly gets highest damage in any line up you put him in. Honestly, they're all great enough it's really hard to pick a best. With similar colors, they can all basically go into any team as a source of sloth and do relatively well, it's just a question of how much of a tank vs. how much of a damage dealer you want.