Canto 5 Last boss (?)

[infantMajesty]

Is there a guide somewhere?
And don't give me the "oh, that was an easy fight".

[Raven]

if you're talking about the fight with three enemies - just a dps test right now, the way i beat it was just having starbuck(forgot his name, the guy that attacks during the assist phase) staggered/outright dead before she goes into the one-sided attack phase.

hopefully you brought along a unit that can resist pierce or at least not get deleted from her one-sided attacks (i used K hong lu).

if you're talking about the last boss,

have ishmael use snagharpoon (whatever her base ego is called) against the high-rolling mass attacks, with the +3 power she gets from being in negative sanity her floor should be high enough to always win clashes, and she should get just enough sanity from winning clashes to be able to spam it for the first two phases while still being under negative sanity

let your other sinners slowly build up sanity from the other attacks.

[zerotak112233]

1.bring w cop yi sang and use ego that change sloth resist to ineffective and that must be more easy when she use sloth counter in phase 3 (im fight her in pre-nerf so that must help you a bit)

2.ismael in this fight not dying from get attack so even faill clash in phase 2 she still alive

3.(IMPORTEN) try farm ego resources that the big clash ego need it posible if not you can try reset bc phase 2 attack is the real problem and try hold the sinner alive it long it posible

[Brylington]

Ishmael can't die as long as someone else is still alive so you can use her to tank some skills that would otherwise kill you. I used K Corp Hong Lu as a sort of safety net to prevent Ishmael from dying and just had her do most of the work while Hong Lu set up his Dimension Shredder and Ampule passives. Other than that just use EGO to win important clashes, you should have built enough resources to spam them by this point and depending on the ID you have for Ishmael you should be able to keep generating more.

[Sol's Soul]

Alright this hint is a pretty big "spoiler" so I will mark it just in case for anyone who just glances at the discussions despite not having been in Canto 5 just yet

Much like the fight in 5-30 against the B.B. Ishmael cannot die during the final fight as long as there is at least one other sinner remaining
With that said it's anything but an easy fight (Though they seem to be nerfing it, which while I personally enjoyed the difficulty I can understand the decision) and you may be retrying a decent amount

Maybe take 1 less sinner into the fight so that another unit can have an extra skill slot, it's risky depending on how many you decide to bring instead of the max amount, but it can help make certain fights a bit easier! Especially with a certain currently-immortal-during-the-fight sinner

[infantMajesty]

Can't farm ego unless I reset. Same with IDs (I'm stuck with a blunt team).
Having 0 sanity while the other side ramps up every turn is discouraging.
Nerfs have already being announced so I guess I'll wait.

[Sol's Soul]

Originally posted by Sol's Soul:

Though if you are talking about a certain other fight where a trio fights you, it's essentially an arms race if you unga bunga it
Try to kill the other side's units first before they kill one of yours and snowball down from there, I had more issues with this one instead of the "Final" final fight

[zerotak112233]

Originally posted by infantMajesty:

Can't farm ego unless I reset. Same with IDs (I'm stuck with a blunt team).
Having 0 sanity while the other side ramps up every turn is discouraging.
Nerfs have already being announced so I guess I'll wait.

welp cant help pal gl with round 2 :/

[zerotak112233]

Originally posted by Sol's Soul:

Originally posted by Sol's Soul:

Though if you are talking about a certain other fight where a trio fights you, it's essentially an arms race if you unga bunga it
Try to kill the other side's units first before they kill one of yours and snowball down from there, I had more issues with this one instead of the "Final" final fight

my plan is "sacrifice must need" you get my sinner and im get you too >:D lol

edit: im not even kill quenqage or whatever that name is lol she sure tough it hell

[lumpy_]

Does the trio fight have a checkpoint or smthn after beating them? I can't beat it without at least one teammate dying

[Sol's Soul]

Originally posted by lumpy_:

Does the trio fight have a checkpoint or smthn after beating them? I can't beat it without at least one teammate dying

There is a checkpoint afterwards yes! So whoever died gets healed
-Unless somehow my memory is already failing me after an hour or so lol, but I'm almost 100% sure

[lumpy_]

Originally posted by Sol's Soul:

Originally posted by lumpy_:

Does the trio fight have a checkpoint or smthn after beating them? I can't beat it without at least one teammate dying

There is a checkpoint afterwards yes! So whoever died gets healed
-Unless somehow my memory is already failing me after an hour or so lol, but I'm almost 100% sure

Thank you very much

[enzmagus2025]

for the first phase trying to have your fastest sinners win against the "on clash lose, gain defence power down" and making sure the next sinner after is clashing the evade seems to be the idea there. for the second phase have your sinners who can use ego next turn clash the mark skills, and use the marked sinners ego to clash her gluttony skills, two turns of this is guaranteed to stagger. for the final phase you need to just "whale" on her and if possible keep her counter from staggering more than one sinner (might be a good idea to guard turn one since she'll use two(?) attacks that reduce her "ego" the next turn, having ishmael tank those if you can't beat them is also literally free, or a sinner who'll die anyway. if you get her to 0 ego and have not lost about 3-4 sinners by this point you've pretty much already won.

also refill your sanity as much as you can since she loves to drain it. on one of the phases, i think the final one, she tanks your sanity every single coin that hits her. and assume that every coin will roll max value since she is legitamately just always at 45SP

[infantMajesty]

What, enemies have ego now?

[enzmagus2025]

Originally posted by infantMajesty:

What, enemies have ego now?

their status effect has ego in its name. also dongbaek wields a ego, and the tla members use ego equipment so technically enemies have had ego before XD

[enzmagus2025]

Originally posted by infantMajesty:

Can't farm ego unless I reset. Same with IDs (I'm stuck with a blunt team).
Having 0 sanity while the other side ramps up every turn is discouraging.
Nerfs have already being announced so I guess I'll wait.

iirc they've said the nerfs are only temporary until they implement the ability to change identities during the dungeon, so that you're not forced go in with a team of only pierce weak units on the trio fight and such lol