My Noob Questions

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Heya, new player. Just cleared 2-13 and unlocked luxcavations. Wanted to ask around for some suggestions for a new player:

1. I've read that uptie is more powerful than rarity. Should I just focus on levelling the starter IDs since they uptie with story progress? Should I just turn all my shards into threads?

2. I did the starter pulls and got some new IDs but they're all very different: Do IDs work better with others of the same kind, or is it fine to mix and match?

3. What should I pull on? Waifu pick? Any must-haves?

4. So how long is the "weekly routine" for the game? I have a few other games I play regularly so I need to budget my time a bit more carefully. If mirror dungeons take, like, an hour to beat and I have to do 'em 3 times a week that might be a problem, lol.

Thanks, y'all.

[Dominic]

1. depends on the id. you will struggle (but it is possible) to clear all content with base ids.

2. again kinda depends but its mostly fine to mix and match ids

3. pull for waifu. there is some "must haves" like R heath, fausts new IDs (7 and regret tho regret is semi limited), dici rodya, and a few others but you can pull for waifu and youll get the "meta" ids. tho you dont need the "meta" id to clear anything

4. md2h takes about an hour to clear (once a week) after that its just daily lux really and that can take anywhere from 15 seconds (if you skip) or like 10 min

eedit. ah since you new md2h might take closer to 2 hours. though you can save and quit it anytime and finish it slowly over the week if youd like

[Hel Spites]

1) That's dead wrong. I don't know who told you that, but they're full of ♥♥♥♥. Uptieing generally makes ids more powerful but there's no universe where a base ID is going to be more powerful than (most) 2 or 3 star IDs. Threads are scarce in the early game, save them for the IDs that can make the most out of them. I'll give you a few suggestions here for IDs that are worth bringing up to uptie 4

R corp ish: She gains the most benefits from uptieing out of any ID in the game. It takes her from a niche dps that's a pain in the ass to use, to an utterly broken DPS that takes all of one braincell to use

W corp don and W corp ryoshu: You need to build charge fast to use these, and their uptie 4 lets them build charge much faster, while in don's case, it makes it easier for her to clash

r corp mersault: He's a weird one. He's not a great ID, but his uptie 4 makes him a half decent tank, and if you get his regret ego (which won't be available to you till much later) then he gets a lot stronger, and actually becomes a pretty decent damage dealer/tank.

2) Different IDs specialize in different things and they synergize differently. You can absolutely mix and match but as a rule, try to base your team off 2 things, 1) The sin affinities you need to get your egos to work, and 2) The debuffs the teams bring. If you're building a rupture team for example, you're going to want to bring 7 association faust and heath, along with k corp hong lu and w corp yi sang, since they're all units that have the ability to apply and utilize a ton of rupture. Hong lu and yi sang in particular have access to the dimension shredder egos which let them really pile it on.

N corp Faust meanwhile works fantastically with an n-corp team, but she works just fine if you bring units from other corps that do piercing damage since the gaze debuff she applies hits enemies with pierce fragility.

in the early game you're not going to have access to too many options so just figure out what you've got and make it work as best you can, using whatever limited synergies you can cook up.

3) Don't pull. Seriously, I'm not joking. If you're going to spend money, the battle pass gives about half a metric ♥♥♥♥ ton of value (it's easily the best battle pass I've ever seen in a game for reasons I'm about to get into).

Let me explain how the banners work in limbus:

Nothing ever goes away permanently. The moment a banner goes up, you can buy the units on the banner in the dispensary using shards. (That's what you want to spend your shards on, not on thread) There's only one exception to this and that's the walpurgisnacht banner. Walpurgisnacht comes around every 3 months and the characters on it can only be bought during the future walpurgisnacht banners, meaning that they're effectively time locked for 3 months. The first walpurgisnacht banner had regret faust, hook hong lu and mersault's regret ego, all of which were busted, and it's safe to assume that the future ones will be too, so just save your currency for that.

Shards are extremely easy to get, especially if you get the battlepass, since once you finish the pass (which is trivial to do. I'm already on level 97 out of 120 and the season only started 2 weeks ago. Each season lasts for 4 months) every level gets you 1 egoshard crate if you're free or 3 egoshard crates if you buy the bp.

That said, as far as sharding characters go, if you want an easy meta team that'll help get you through most content, then I'd recommend grabbing R corp ish (and getting her up to uptie 4 as soon as you can), N corp sinclair, deici rodion, lob corp remnant faust (along with her fluid sac ego. Her heals are a lifesaver), rabbit heathcliff, ting tang gang hong lu, and molar outis. That right there is a pretty decent unga bunga team that'll carry you through most content just fine. When the next walpurgisnacht rolls around though, grab everything you can from it. Seriously, those IDs and the regret ego are busted.

This leads into question 4) I do a mirror dungeon every day, and that gets me about 150 out of the 200 egoshard crates you need to buy a 3 star character every week. That said, if all you do is log in once a week and do your weekly mirror dungeon hard mode run, that'll get you 75 crates (assuming you bought the pass), which means your only "daily" obligations at that point are the luxcavations, and you've seen how quick those can be. (it's worth noting, doing a single hard mode run eats up the bonuses from the regular runs as well, so you don't have to do 3 normals and 1 hard to get everything, you can just do 1 hard and you're fine)

It's up to you how much time you want to put in, but even if you play the game super casually, you're not missing on anything, since, unlike most gacha games, stuff doesn't go away in limbus company. Characters and egos from the current season will go away until the next season, but that's really about it (for example, last season was season 2 so we couldn't buy stuff from season 1, but now that we're in season 3, we can buy stuff from season 1 and next season the stuff from 3 will go away and the stuff from 2 will join the stuff from 1 up on the shop).

[Om3ga-Z3ro]

Playing with basic ID's is for those (Like me and a few others) that like to play the game with a little bit of a challenge, they are not as strong as the ones you pull out of the gacha (yet).

I suggest uptying ID's that you want to uptie
If you want to chase the meta is then go for that

Any ID can go through the story just fine, it's all about figuring out the enemies's Weak and Resist.

You are going to get a lot of people saying to not pull ever. Pull results differ from each individual, there are just other ways to get ID's and EGO's. I pull and most of the time I get the target ID's because the chances aren't that bad, hoping to pull an EGO however, never try to pull an EGO

[A5G_Reaper]

1. Not exactly accurate. Basic IDs gets automatic uptie as the story progress and very early on they'll perform better than uptie I anything, but generally higher rarity have better performance than lower if they have the same uptie. There's some notable difference of course (a few 00 simply have really good number, and on the reverse there's a non-negligible amount of trash 000). Generally, you should at least uptie III the best IDs you have in your lineup.

2. There are a few good synergy, but in most cases it's better to just pick the biggest number. Synergy doesn't matter if the sinners lose half their clash due to their low number.

3. I'd say just do the regular pull and use whatever good ones you find. As for must-have, Faust's Fluid Sac EGO. AoE damage, HP heal, sanity heal. It's too versatile and will likely carry you through a lot of the challenges the game throw at you. That aside, each sinner already have multiple good performers already so there's no one that stand way out.

4. Mirror dungeon is 1x a week. Hard mode may take more than an hour at first, but it should get easier over time. Luxcavation you just need to beat it the first time and you'll get to skip it after. But at most you'll do 4x (1x exp and 3x thread) to grab all the bonus, and each doesn't take more than 5 minutes. And most of that time you'll be spending looking away while the animation play because it's doable by clicking winrate.

[Minh]

1. Yes. No.

2. Yes. Yes.

3. 00 ★2★ IDENTITYies. No. No.

4. Depends.

[infantMajesty]

Weekly routine is doing a Hard MD before the maintenance (once I got rollback and was able to do MD with reward buffs again, so I wait for that bug again) and just doing daily till the weekly quests are done by sunday.
Some days I do three thread excavation skips, others I do some normal MD to grind starlight (only one buff left to get) and focus on finishing the battle pass asap so I can use MDs to grind named boxes and buy an ID or Ego every two weeks.

[NeverFadeAway]

1 - Depends, but you'd better check some reddit tier-list
2 - Indeed they are, but , in my personal opinion, it's not that matter, in fact, you should also think not as much as about team compability only, but both team compability and EGO compability
3 - Open the tier list and find both meta and waifu material
4 - Okay, several tips based on my expirience only: if you have powerfull ids you can clash through mirror (normal) just clickin winrate button, you don't have even think, just click it. Things get a little messy when it comes to hard dungeon, I highly recomend you to get all dungeon upgrades before entering this ♥♥♥♥ and sadly you have to think in hard dungeon, so do what you want with this info

[jobhobster]

Originally posted by Hel Spites:

1) That's dead wrong. I don't know who told you that, but they're full of ♥♥♥♥. Uptieing generally makes ids more powerful but there's no universe where a base ID is going to be more powerful than (most) 2 or 3 star IDs. Threads are scarce in the early game, save them for the IDs that can make the most out of them. I'll give you a few suggestions here for IDs that are worth bringing up to uptie 4

R corp ish: She gains the most benefits from uptieing out of any ID in the game. It takes her from a niche dps that's a pain in the ass to use, to an utterly broken DPS that takes all of one braincell to use

W corp don and W corp ryoshu: You need to build charge fast to use these, and their uptie 4 lets them build charge much faster, while in don's case, it makes it easier for her to clash

r corp mersault: He's a weird one. He's not a great ID, but his uptie 4 makes him a half decent tank, and if you get his regret ego (which won't be available to you till much later) then he gets a lot stronger, and actually becomes a pretty decent damage dealer/tank.

2) Different IDs specialize in different things and they synergize differently. You can absolutely mix and match but as a rule, try to base your team off 2 things, 1) The sin affinities you need to get your egos to work, and 2) The debuffs the teams bring. If you're building a rupture team for example, you're going to want to bring 7 association faust and heath, along with k corp hong lu and w corp yi sang, since they're all units that have the ability to apply and utilize a ton of rupture. Hong lu and yi sang in particular have access to the dimension shredder egos which let them really pile it on.

N corp Faust meanwhile works fantastically with an n-corp team, but she works just fine if you bring units from other corps that do piercing damage since the gaze debuff she applies hits enemies with pierce fragility.

in the early game you're not going to have access to too many options so just figure out what you've got and make it work as best you can, using whatever limited synergies you can cook up.

3) Don't pull. Seriously, I'm not joking. If you're going to spend money, the battle pass gives about half a metric ♥♥♥♥ ton of value (it's easily the best battle pass I've ever seen in a game for reasons I'm about to get into).

Let me explain how the banners work in limbus:

Nothing ever goes away permanently. The moment a banner goes up, you can buy the units on the banner in the dispensary using shards. (That's what you want to spend your shards on, not on thread) There's only one exception to this and that's the walpurgisnacht banner. Walpurgisnacht comes around every 3 months and the characters on it can only be bought during the future walpurgisnacht banners, meaning that they're effectively time locked for 3 months. The first walpurgisnacht banner had regret faust, hook hong lu and mersault's regret ego, all of which were busted, and it's safe to assume that the future ones will be too, so just save your currency for that.

Shards are extremely easy to get, especially if you get the battlepass, since once you finish the pass (which is trivial to do. I'm already on level 97 out of 120 and the season only started 2 weeks ago. Each season lasts for 4 months) every level gets you 1 egoshard crate if you're free or 3 egoshard crates if you buy the bp.

That said, as far as sharding characters go, if you want an easy meta team that'll help get you through most content, then I'd recommend grabbing R corp ish (and getting her up to uptie 4 as soon as you can), N corp sinclair, deici rodion, lob corp remnant faust (along with her fluid sac ego. Her heals are a lifesaver), rabbit heathcliff, ting tang gang hong lu, and molar outis. That right there is a pretty decent unga bunga team that'll carry you through most content just fine. When the next walpurgisnacht rolls around though, grab everything you can from it. Seriously, those IDs and the regret ego are busted.

This leads into question 4) I do a mirror dungeon every day, and that gets me about 150 out of the 200 egoshard crates you need to buy a 3 star character every week. That said, if all you do is log in once a week and do your weekly mirror dungeon hard mode run, that'll get you 75 crates (assuming you bought the pass), which means your only "daily" obligations at that point are the luxcavations, and you've seen how quick those can be. (it's worth noting, doing a single hard mode run eats up the bonuses from the regular runs as well, so you don't have to do 3 normals and 1 hard to get everything, you can just do 1 hard and you're fine)

It's up to you how much time you want to put in, but even if you play the game super casually, you're not missing on anything, since, unlike most gacha games, stuff doesn't go away in limbus company. Characters and egos from the current season will go away until the next season, but that's really about it (for example, last season was season 2 so we couldn't buy stuff from season 1, but now that we're in season 3, we can buy stuff from season 1 and next season the stuff from 3 will go away and the stuff from 2 will join the stuff from 1 up on the shop).

Good thing you said most, since honestly base heath/hong lu might be better than stuff like BL Clair

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Lots of good info here, thanks, everyone!

Originally posted by Hel Spites:

3) Don't pull. Seriously, I'm not joking. If you're going to spend money, the battle pass gives about half a metric ♥♥♥♥ ton of value (it's easily the best battle pass I've ever seen in a game for reasons I'm about to get into).

I'm curious, if pulling isn't necessary for anything in the long term, is there anything to spend non-paid lunacy on? You said the Walpurgisnacht is time limited, so is that a fair place to use it?

[A5G_Reaper]

The only argument to not pulling is to save up for some good banner or limited time stuff. If you're still at chapter 2 then just hit it, getting a full usable lineup is more important.

You can use some lunacy to refill the energy meter. Not saying that it's the best thing to do with it, but it's an option.

[Zalgo]

Originally posted by :|:

Lots of good info here, thanks, everyone!

Originally posted by Hel Spites:

3) Don't pull. Seriously, I'm not joking. If you're going to spend money, the battle pass gives about half a metric ♥♥♥♥ ton of value (it's easily the best battle pass I've ever seen in a game for reasons I'm about to get into).

I'm curious, if pulling isn't necessary for anything in the long term, is there anything to spend non-paid lunacy on? You said the Walpurgisnacht is time limited, so is that a fair place to use it?

As a new player, using Lunacy to get yourself a lineup is much more important than saving up. It is true that you can beat everything with Base IDs, but it's practically a challenge run. It's not easy.

Afterwards, their are Three main uses for Lunacy:

1: Using it to refill Stamina. This is incredibly efficient module wise at a later point, particularly when you unlock the late-game Luxcavations. It also allows you to perform a particularly efficient Daily Routine:

- 2-3 Lunacy Refills, if you are running the Monthly Lunacy pack, this is a net positive thanks to weekly Lunacy from MD2H. Convert Stamina into Modules

- 1 EXP Luxcavation a day. Make sure it is the highest possible level you can do.

- 3 Thread SKIPS!!! Thread skips make you a boatload of thread, which makes it a hell of a lot easier to UT IDs you want. This is pretty pricey though, so only start skipping if you are willing to start Lunacy Refilling.

- MD2H on Weekly start. If you really want, you can also add 1 MD2N a day to get a bunch of Gold crates in turn.

2: Using Lunacy to grab IDs that launch the moment a new Season pops up. Whenever a new season launches, half of your egoshards get converted to thread. This can stop you from instantly sharding the Launch IDs, so having backup Lunacy can help you there.

3: More importantly, Walpurgis Even IDs/EGO can only be pulled and are only shardable on the NEXT Walpurgis. If you want them the moment they come out, you need Lunacy.

[Hel Spites]

Originally posted by :|:

Lots of good info here, thanks, everyone!

Originally posted by Hel Spites:

3) Don't pull. Seriously, I'm not joking. If you're going to spend money, the battle pass gives about half a metric ♥♥♥♥ ton of value (it's easily the best battle pass I've ever seen in a game for reasons I'm about to get into).

I'm curious, if pulling isn't necessary for anything in the long term, is there anything to spend non-paid lunacy on? You said the Walpurgisnacht is time limited, so is that a fair place to use it?

I'd recommend going all in on walpurgisnacht, yeah. It's the only piece of time limited content in the game and the first set of walpurgisnacht IDs and egos have been insanely good.

Regret faust can apply plus coin drop (arguably the most powerful debuff in the game)on her skill 2, and she can turn her regular attacks into AoE, which is mostly unheard of.

Hook Hong Lu can apply a ♥♥♥♥ ton of bleed count, and he has a passive effect that lets him inflict up to 50% more damage on an enemy depending on how low their HP is. If you use him to attack an abrnomality's broken limb, his damage is comparable to R-ish and R-heath, despite only being a 2 star ID

Mersault's regret ego has a passive effect on use that makes him trade -1 base power for +1 power on each coin, which turns most of his IDs into really good clashers

It's possible that the next walpurgisnacht IDs are really weak I guess, but honestly, I don't see it, not with this baseline.

Even without the walpurgisnacht banners, it's more efficient to use your lunacy to refresh your energy to create more modules once a day so that you can keep going into the mirror dungeons.

Here's what the lunacy economy looks like at a base level:

You get 750 lunacy for a mirror dungeon 2 hard run (although you don't have access to that just yet) and you typically get 300 lunacy as maintenance compensation, so that's 1050 per week on average. Refreshing your energy once per day will cost you a total 182 lunacy per week, meaning it's covered by the maintenance compensation alone, which means you'll be able to both build your supply of egocrates and save lunacy for the walpurgisnacht banner. With those modules you'll be able to do your daily luxcavations and a daily mirror dungeon run and you'll still have modules left over, allowing you to build a stock pile of them, which is nice to have.

There's a thread on the limbus company subreddit explaining the math, but long story short, it's way more efficient for you to use your lunacy on at least one daily energy refresh than it is for you pull.

It sounds counter intuitive for a gacha game, I know, and if you want to pull, I won't tell you not to, but these systems are what make limbus company so much better than other gacha games, in my opinion. I like being able to get everything without relying on the slot machine.

[BubbleBuster]

1. all IDs/EGO unlock nearly all their passives/skills with uptie 3. Some get large boosts from getting uptied further.
IMO you should uptie everything to 3 that you use, and certain other IDs/EGO to 4 (not important at the start, you ll figure that out once you get there)
You should also level IDs at the same time though. While not really a thing at the start, enemies that are higher level than you have a wider gap in offensive stats. The wider the gap, the more clash value they get. So eventually clashes will be harder to win. Should the game get too hard, level your IDs a bit and try again.
As of right now, lv30 is enough for the latest part of the story imo.

2. depends. OFC IDs work better together with IDs that do similar things. IDs that inflict burn, work well with other IDs that inflict burn for example. But this game doesn't really require teambuilding as of yet. Usually, you just want to run the strongest units you have OR IDs that have the correct sins/colors to use your EGO consistently and asap.

3. There are IDs that are way stronger than the other options available for that character. Notable mentions are: Wcorp Don, Wcorp Ryoshu, Rcorp Heathcliff, Molar Outis, Dieci Rodion, Spicebush Yi Sang, literally all Hong Lu IDs.
But the entire game is beatable so far with just base IDs (it can be a struggle though).
Pulling for Waifu is fine since you'll probably get 1 or 2 meta IDs along the way (they are all permanently in the gacha pool except non-gacha Event IDs).

4.dailies are: do at least 1 thread luxca (max. 5 minutes). do at least 1 exp luxca (max 5 minutes.) then you should be done
every week you have to beat the "Mirror Dungeon 2 Hard Mode" which is unlocked in I think story chapter 4.
You gotta beat that once a week which CAN take an hour but for me is more like 20-30 minutes.
Doing the hard mode gives you all the rewards and uses up all boni, so no need for multiple runs


hope this helped

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Originally posted by Hel Spites:

Here's what the lunacy economy looks like at a base level:

You get 750 lunacy for a mirror dungeon 2 hard run (although you don't have access to that just yet) and you typically get 300 lunacy as maintenance compensation, so that's 1050 per week on average. Refreshing your energy once per day will cost you a total 182 lunacy per week, meaning it's covered by the maintenance compensation alone, which means you'll be able to both build your supply of egocrates and save lunacy for the walpurgisnacht banner. With those modules you'll be able to do your daily luxcavations and a daily mirror dungeon run and you'll still have modules left over, allowing you to build a stock pile of them, which is nice to have.

There's a thread on the limbus company subreddit explaining the math, but long story short, it's way more efficient for you to use your lunacy on at least one daily energy refresh than it is for you pull.

It sounds counter intuitive for a gacha game, I know, and if you want to pull, I won't tell you not to, but these systems are what make limbus company so much better than other gacha games, in my opinion. I like being able to get everything without relying on the slot machine.

Damn, I never would have thought that this would have been the case, lol. But this is very insightful, thanks a ton. Hopefully I can get to Mirror Dungeon content before finals week arrive. For now, I'm fine with not skipping lux since I can just set it to go and not pay attention.

I've heard the suggestions that getting some IDs to get an early team going is a good idea, so I'll keep that in mind IF I hit a roadblock. Just got to 2-19 and the last stage nearly kicked my ass even though I was overlevelled lmao.

On a related subject, I'm really liking some of the early IDs I got like N Corp Rodion and Shi Assoc Don but one of the IDs I got was Sunshower Heath... Even though he's my only 000 I haven't bothered using him since his whole deal seems way different from the other IDs. When I saw the negative modifier above his skills I immediately was like: "maaaaybe I'm not ready for this yet". Is it as simple as: use defend and S1 to get a bunch of paralyze and sinking, then just use S2 and go ham?

[SmallGespenst]

Originally posted by :|:

Originally posted by Hel Spites:

Here's what the lunacy economy looks like at a base level:

You get 750 lunacy for a mirror dungeon 2 hard run (although you don't have access to that just yet) and you typically get 300 lunacy as maintenance compensation, so that's 1050 per week on average. Refreshing your energy once per day will cost you a total 182 lunacy per week, meaning it's covered by the maintenance compensation alone, which means you'll be able to both build your supply of egocrates and save lunacy for the walpurgisnacht banner. With those modules you'll be able to do your daily luxcavations and a daily mirror dungeon run and you'll still have modules left over, allowing you to build a stock pile of them, which is nice to have.

There's a thread on the limbus company subreddit explaining the math, but long story short, it's way more efficient for you to use your lunacy on at least one daily energy refresh than it is for you pull.

It sounds counter intuitive for a gacha game, I know, and if you want to pull, I won't tell you not to, but these systems are what make limbus company so much better than other gacha games, in my opinion. I like being able to get everything without relying on the slot machine.

Damn, I never would have thought that this would have been the case, lol. But this is very insightful, thanks a ton. Hopefully I can get to Mirror Dungeon content before finals week arrive. For now, I'm fine with not skipping lux since I can just set it to go and not pay attention.

I've heard the suggestions that getting some IDs to get an early team going is a good idea, so I'll keep that in mind IF I hit a roadblock. Just got to 2-19 and the last stage nearly kicked my ass even though I was overlevelled lmao.

On a related subject, I'm really liking some of the early IDs I got like N Corp Rodion and Shi Assoc Don but one of the IDs I got was Sunshower Heath... Even though he's my only 000 I haven't bothered using him since his whole deal seems way different from the other IDs. When I saw the negative modifier above his skills I immediately was like: "maaaaybe I'm not ready for this yet". Is it as simple as: use defend and S1 to get a bunch of paralyze and sinking, then just use S2 and go ham?

There's a few things to keep in mind with Sunshower Heath, but you've sorta got the right idea; his Counter is what you'd want to use when possible, it does decent damage and piles status effects onto enemies, but generally you'd want to save his skills for one-sided attacks, since their clash-power is on the lower end. they can still do pretty decent damage as long as his SP is low enough, which is another part of why counters and one-sided attacks are generally how he works best, generally clashes should be saved for when he's in danger of corroding (his S2 works best for this).
Also he kinda flops if he isn't higher level than the enemy since the SP from kills will usually push him into positives.

Of course most people would just recommend not using him, but he's still a favourite ID of mine (and was even one of the first IDs I took to T4)