any new tier List ?

[hellatze]

what is the Best SS type sinner int he game for latest season ?

me : K corp hong lu, Molar outis, Warp Ryo, Rcorp ishmael, Faust regret.

i start to think R corp heathcliff not viable anymore. probably A tier

[jobhobster]

引用自 hellatze：

what is the Best SS type sinner int he game for latest season ?

me : K corp hong lu, Molar outis, Warp Ryo, Rcorp ishmael, Faust regret.

i start to think R corp heathcliff not viable anymore. probably A tier

Wrong. +40% damage boost for a turn with no conditions will get old only when we get even bigger boost with still no condition.

[Ben bitmişim]

I need what ur smoking if you actually think R heathcliff won't be viable anymore lmao

[Nut]

引用自 hellatze：

i start to think R corp heathcliff not viable anymore. probably A tier

[bleh]

nothing will compare to the nuke potential of spicy yisang. also unpopular opinion but K corp hong is overrated, the only redeemable feet of the ID is how it doesn't die in content that is not nearly hard enough to justify slotting him in.

hes fun but SS? nah.

[Birp]

This is a bad take, even from you lol.

[Minh]

I don't like him like I used to. He's good but I want maximum Damage so 6+ Speed is needed so most of time I avoid them so he doesn't deal that much Damage.

[Demonking]

The thing about R-cliff is his main purpose is pure damage and high clash power. That will always be useful outside of a boss with resistance to piercing. The only way R cliff ever isn't good for a fight is if they somehow develop one more about conditions you inflict on the enemy. Ideas come to mind of an enemy that has 10 protection until staggered and gains 1 clash power for each turn of combat, meaning you'd want to bring a Tremor team so you can out pace their clash power.

Alternatively, the other situation I can see them being rendered ineffective is an enemy that steals bullets to make its attacks stronger. These are the main or only cases where R-cliff isn't a main or default choice. Since he doesn't really produce enough personal charge without EGO assistance to make charge sappers that much stronger.

[Coin]

You say not viable anymore and that he's A tier. In what world A tier wouldn't be viable, A tier means one of the best.

[hellatze]

引用自 Ben bitmişim：

I need what ur smoking if you actually think R heathcliff won't be viable anymore lmao

his clash rating is outdated

[hellatze]

引用自 bleh：

nothing will compare to the nuke potential of spicy yisang. also unpopular opinion but K corp hong is overrated, the only redeemable feet of the ID is how it doesn't die in content that is not nearly hard enough to justify slotting him in.

hes fun but SS? nah.

he can take 3 direct hit from enemy boss skill. and shrug it off. making my team have easier time to clash when boss hava high clash rating. tankiness is reliable.

[Coin]

引用自 bleh：

nothing will compare to the nuke potential of spicy yisang. also unpopular opinion but K corp hong is overrated, the only redeemable feet of the ID is how it doesn't die in content that is not nearly hard enough to justify slotting him in.

hes fun but SS? nah.

Agreed, he's a good tank, definitely not S tier though.

[jobhobster]

引用自 hellatze：

引用自 Ben bitmişim：

I need what ur smoking if you actually think R heathcliff won't be viable anymore lmao

his clash rating is outdated

4-16 on s2 is fine, and even then it's not changing anything. Ffs he could have only s3, and other skills doing nothing, and you would still bring him, since 4 fragile in the start of the turn is just THAT good.

[jobhobster]

引用自 Coin：

引用自 bleh：

nothing will compare to the nuke potential of spicy yisang. also unpopular opinion but K corp hong is overrated, the only redeemable feet of the ID is how it doesn't die in content that is not nearly hard enough to justify slotting him in.

hes fun but SS? nah.

Agreed, he's a good tank, definitely not S tier though.

Ngl Dieci Rodion > K Hong
She is still pretty tanky, why also doing a hella lot of damage, while K Hong is kinda just there (I guess they wanted him to be tank for rapture teams, but his rapture synergy is pathetic)

[hellatze]

引用自 Demonking：

The thing about R-cliff is his main purpose is pure damage and high clash power. That will always be useful outside of a boss with resistance to piercing. The only way R cliff ever isn't good for a fight is if they somehow develop one more about conditions you inflict on the enemy. Ideas come to mind of an enemy that has 10 protection until staggered and gains 1 clash power for each turn of combat, meaning you'd want to bring a Tremor team so you can out pace their clash power.

Alternatively, the other situation I can see them being rendered ineffective is an enemy that steals bullets to make its attacks stronger. These are the main or only cases where R-cliff isn't a main or default choice. Since he doesn't really produce enough personal charge without EGO assistance to make charge sappers that much stronger.

this is situational as he need 6+ speed otherwise
S2 : 12 Clash max
S3 : 13 clash max

[hellatze]

引用自 jobhobster：

引用自 Coin：

Agreed, he's a good tank, definitely not S tier though.

Ngl Dieci Rodion > K Hong
She is still pretty tanky, why also doing a hella lot of damage, while K Hong is kinda just there (I guess they wanted him to be tank for rapture teams, but his rapture synergy is pathetic)

rodionn cant heal. k jong heal full hp when dying. i assume he have 2x hp