Reduce R Corp Ishmael SP Loss

[Cyboroso]

After the sanity changes, the SP Loss from her passive is so big that she will constantly sit at 0-10 sanity or less unless you are lucky. Seriously, its too much loss for the what you gain from winning clashes, and unless you have teams that have barely gloom skills, you are going to trigger that even agaisnt your will. Which is really....agaisnt the very own resonance mechanic which is usually something you do want unless you are trying to get specific ego resources for your egos, but even so, that does not makes this passive any better, specially considering all it does is give a +1 attack next turn based on resonance divided by 2 , which doesnt mean ♥♥♥♥ if your sanity is garbage or if you cant win clashes till next turn.

[A Wispy Willy]

There are no sanity changes now. You're playing her with the way sanity worked as before.

[Cyboroso]

Originally posted by A Wispy Willy:

There are no sanity changes now. You're playing her with the way sanity worked as before.

You really didn't read the updates recently did you? They literally changed the sanity value gains from clashes and deaths, aswell as the sanity losses

[ovni.demon]

Originally posted by Cyboroso:

Originally posted by A Wispy Willy:

There are no sanity changes now. You're playing her with the way sanity worked as before.

You really didn't read the updates recently did you? They literally changed the sanity value gains from clashes and deaths, aswell as the sanity losses

But they reverted the changes

[SmallGespenst]

Originally posted by Cyboroso:

Originally posted by A Wispy Willy:

There are no sanity changes now. You're playing her with the way sanity worked as before.

You really didn't read the updates recently did you? They literally changed the sanity value gains from clashes and deaths, aswell as the sanity losses

the sanity changes got rolled back. they didn't even last a day.
This doesn't change the fact that R-Ish has a terrible passive, but that's more to do with the fact that Ish can't catch a break and get anything actually good (aside from her LCCB ID that's the best Tremor stacker in the game)

[Cyboroso]

Did they? Sanity still feels like its alot harder to get than before.

[Cyboroso]

Originally posted by SmallGespenst:

Originally posted by Cyboroso:

You really didn't read the updates recently did you? They literally changed the sanity value gains from clashes and deaths, aswell as the sanity losses

the sanity changes got rolled back. they didn't even last a day.
This doesn't change the fact that R-Ish has a terrible passive, but that's more to do with the fact that Ish can't catch a break and get anything actually good (aside from her LCCB ID that's the best Tremor stacker in the game)

Yeah but before her passive never used to be a problem since sanity used to be always so easy to get

[sovereign]

Yeah even though they said they reverted the sanity changes it still feels different than before

[76561199131858533]

Before This Post getting OFF TOPIC.

everyone please read Reinderr Ishmael Passive :

At the start of combat phase, lose 15 SP. Gain (Gloom res / 3) Attack Power Up next turn.

People don't understand what you mean about her SP loss, she have the Worst Passive in the game, just by activating her passive that only cost 3 blue. she lost 15 sanity. that worst than sinclair. because 3 blue very easy and activated every turns.

Reinder ishmael problem is the same as N corp Sinclair, SHE THE OG losing sanity BEFORE N CORP SINCLAIR coming.

because of this she never hit head for her skill 1 and 2 to gain charge. the only solutions ? never use Reinder ishmael except you want to meme.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2984030828

[ovni.demon]

Originally posted by redcobra123098:

Before This Post getting OFF TOPIC.

everyone please read Reinderr Ishmael Passive :

At the start of combat phase, lose 15 SP. Gain (Gloom res / 3) Attack Power Up next turn.

People don't understand what you mean about her SP loss, she have the Worst Passive in the game, just by activating her passive that only cost 3 blue. she lost 15 sanity. that worst than sinclair. because 3 blue very easy and activated every turns.

Reinder ishmael problem is the same as N corp Sinclair, SHE THE OG losing sanity BEFORE N CORP SINCLAIR coming.

because of this she never hit head for her skill 1 and 2 to gain charge. the only solutions ? never use Reinder ishmael except you want to meme.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2984030828

At least N Sinclair get stronger the lower his sanity, can deal insane damage (I mean, he has the best skill DMG with 30*3) and he is pretty strong in clash (Skill 3 beat any skill with max <19 and skill 2 beats any skill with max <13), so EGOless N Sinclair can be done. He is still quite the gamble since he can still panic, but it's doable.

[Mastema]

Because she sucks complete ass now. Nclair and Rose Spanner Rodion overshadowed her and currently are the best pure blunt 000 ID's in the game.

[【Silver】]

Using Reindeer Ishmael requires good mitigation, but the amount of sanity loss to make use of her passive is indeed a bit high. Maybe lowering it to 5~10 would help her kit be more consistent & viable, especially in teams supporting of Gloom resonance skill usage. The change they had set out of reducing sanity gain definitely would have made it even less manageable.

[ovni.demon]

Originally posted by 【Silver】:

Using Reindeer Ishmael requires good mitigation, but the amount of sanity loss to make use of her passive is indeed a bit high. Maybe lowering it to 5~10 would help her kit be more consistent & viable, especially in teams supporting of Gloom resonance skill usage. The change they had set out of reducing sanity gain definitely would have made it even less manageable.

The problem is also that the bonus from the passive isn't that good. Just +10% or you need a 5-6 (I don't know how it's rounded) for 20%. Plus Sinking is useless in Chapter 4

[Cyboroso]

Originally posted by redcobra123098:

Before This Post getting OFF TOPIC.

everyone please read Reinderr Ishmael Passive :

At the start of combat phase, lose 15 SP. Gain (Gloom res / 3) Attack Power Up next turn.

People don't understand what you mean about her SP loss, she have the Worst Passive in the game, just by activating her passive that only cost 3 blue. she lost 15 sanity. that worst than sinclair. because 3 blue very easy and activated every turns.

Reinder ishmael problem is the same as N corp Sinclair, SHE THE OG losing sanity BEFORE N CORP SINCLAIR coming.

because of this she never hit head for her skill 1 and 2 to gain charge. the only solutions ? never use Reinder ishmael except you want to meme.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2984030828

I mean, you say that ,but before the sanity change her passive was never really a problem for me, most of the time she would still hit hard and she was my unit that i would rely to win clashes most of the time with her big numbers ,regardless of activating the passive or not, specially cause sanity was so easy to get it was usually a small loss. Only now it became noticeable a issue.

[Kagarita]

Originally posted by A Wispy Willy:

There are no sanity changes now. You're playing her with the way sanity worked as before.

It's not exactly as prior patches per say. Sanity gain after winning clashes was 25% originally, and it is currently 20% sanity gain. Everything else is exactly the same as prior versions.

[Yhune]

I would like if she was kind of a hybrid, having some attacks with + heads like S1 and maybe S2 and having - Heads in S3 for example.

Maybe tweak her numbers around for that as well.