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Gheist Apr 20, 2023 @ 4:55pm
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Bongy Plush Dungeon Reward and Rigged Enemy Coin flips
Is the amount of effort put into the final dungeon of 3.5 just not worth it?
Not only is the boss hard hitting, rigged coin flips to always get more positives, has a large heath pool, he's also surrounded by infinite ads that take out 25% of the LEVEL 30 SINNER'S HP with each heads, which the bongys do on a regular 70% heads rate coin flips.
And for what? 1%? 2% of the overall progression for the event after wasting 30 to 50 minutes depending if the run is even possible to win against because the RNG E.G.O gifts.
By then, the run is already wasted when you find out it's impossible with the gifts you got throughout the entire run and 50 REAL LIFE MINUTES down the drain trying to get a meager 1-2% progression of the event.
Last edited by Gheist; Apr 20, 2023 @ 5:04pm
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Zalgo Apr 20, 2023 @ 5:23pm 
It doesn't take 50 minutes dude, it takes like 10-13 tops. Also a couple things:

1: Abnormalities have a FLAT 50/50 chance at hitting heads or tails, it does not change unless stated in a passive.

2: Boss has a particular passive that gives him an attack up for every Add that is still around, and the chickens have a passive that gives them an attack up when not attacked. They also give a SP reduction passive which hampers your own coin tosses. He also gains 1 permanent attack up for every turn that ends. The Attack Up buff affects his coin tosses, increasing the amount he's going to get in total.

What this means is that the boss wins more attack rolls simply because you either left the chickens alive, allowing him to snowball and for your team to start low rolling due to sanity loss, or you left him alone too long to allow him to ramp up.

You gotta balance your attacks carefully. He really isn't that hard.

And I can do about 4-5 Chicken dungeons per hour depending, it definitely doesn't take 50 minutes for one.
Last edited by Zalgo; Apr 20, 2023 @ 5:24pm
Gheist Apr 20, 2023 @ 5:41pm 
Originally posted by Zalgo:
It doesn't take 50 minutes dude, it takes like 10-13 tops. Also a couple things:

1: Abnormalities have a FLAT 50/50 chance at hitting heads or tails, it does not change unless stated in a passive.

2: Boss has a particular passive that gives him an attack up for every Add that is still around, and the chickens have a passive that gives them an attack up when not attacked. They also give a SP reduction passive which hampers your own coin tosses. He also gains 1 permanent attack up for every turn that ends. The Attack Up buff affects his coin tosses, increasing the amount he's going to get in total.

What this means is that the boss wins more attack rolls simply because you either left the chickens alive, allowing him to snowball and for your team to start low rolling due to sanity loss, or you left him alone too long to allow him to ramp up.

You gotta balance your attacks carefully. He really isn't that hard.

And I can do about 4-5 Chicken dungeons per hour depending, it definitely doesn't take 50 minutes for one.
9 Clashes with a bongy that rolled 9 heads. A normal bongy.
Zalgo Apr 20, 2023 @ 5:42pm 
Originally posted by Gheist:
Originally posted by Zalgo:
It doesn't take 50 minutes dude, it takes like 10-13 tops. Also a couple things:

1: Abnormalities have a FLAT 50/50 chance at hitting heads or tails, it does not change unless stated in a passive.

2: Boss has a particular passive that gives him an attack up for every Add that is still around, and the chickens have a passive that gives them an attack up when not attacked. They also give a SP reduction passive which hampers your own coin tosses. He also gains 1 permanent attack up for every turn that ends. The Attack Up buff affects his coin tosses, increasing the amount he's going to get in total.

What this means is that the boss wins more attack rolls simply because you either left the chickens alive, allowing him to snowball and for your team to start low rolling due to sanity loss, or you left him alone too long to allow him to ramp up.

You gotta balance your attacks carefully. He really isn't that hard.

And I can do about 4-5 Chicken dungeons per hour depending, it definitely doesn't take 50 minutes for one.
9 Clashes with a bongy that rolled 9 heads. A normal bongy.

That can happen even despite 50/50.
Gheist Apr 20, 2023 @ 5:52pm 
Originally posted by Zalgo:
Originally posted by Gheist:
9 Clashes with a bongy that rolled 9 heads. A normal bongy.

That can happen even despite 50/50.
It happened again. Two bongys. One did 6 heads and won. The other was 7 heads and won, and the entire team wiped.
Sofia Apr 20, 2023 @ 6:06pm 
The dungeon takes 15 minutes tops to do.

And it gives ~180 plushies at full bonuses, which is about 3% of what you need to fully complete the event. But you get quite a bit from getting to the dungeon in the first place, so it's more like 3-4% per dungeon clear. So, bottom line... it's not long to clear.

Anyway, it sounds like you're just doing the fight wrong.

Most units are capable of one-shot staggering the chickens, and many have a one-shot move flat out. You can stagger the chicken bucket on the boss to prevent him from spawning any additional chickens, and it only takes about 100 damage to do that.

Depending on your skill luck, you could stagger the boss' body REAL fast with, like, R Heathcliff and W Don.

It's not that hard and it's not rocket science either. It's also not rigged at all.
Last edited by Sofia; Apr 20, 2023 @ 6:07pm
Bishop Apr 20, 2023 @ 6:08pm 
Just use your best clash winners tbh. 7 outis can outperform all his skills including 4 coin one even on full head rolls. And pretty much all top tier ids can outoll his 1-2 coin skills. Just kill chicken quickly as mentioned above, he will snowball otherwise.
Maverynthia Apr 20, 2023 @ 8:49pm 
Originally posted by Gheist:
Is the amount of effort put into the final dungeon of 3.5 just not worth it?
Not only is the boss hard hitting, rigged coin flips to always get more positives, has a large heath pool, he's also surrounded by infinite ads that take out 25% of the LEVEL 30 SINNER'S HP with each heads, which the bongys do on a regular 70% heads rate coin flips.
And for what? 1%? 2% of the overall progression for the event after wasting 30 to 50 minutes depending if the run is even possible to win against because the RNG E.G.O gifts.
By then, the run is already wasted when you find out it's impossible with the gifts you got throughout the entire run and 50 REAL LIFE MINUTES down the drain trying to get a meager 1-2% progression of the event.

Yeah this is another rigged event with impossible final boss that the whales will say they had no problem with because they got all the Battle Pass stuff.
Zalgo Apr 20, 2023 @ 8:58pm 
Originally posted by Maverynthia:
Originally posted by Gheist:
Is the amount of effort put into the final dungeon of 3.5 just not worth it?
Not only is the boss hard hitting, rigged coin flips to always get more positives, has a large heath pool, he's also surrounded by infinite ads that take out 25% of the LEVEL 30 SINNER'S HP with each heads, which the bongys do on a regular 70% heads rate coin flips.
And for what? 1%? 2% of the overall progression for the event after wasting 30 to 50 minutes depending if the run is even possible to win against because the RNG E.G.O gifts.
By then, the run is already wasted when you find out it's impossible with the gifts you got throughout the entire run and 50 REAL LIFE MINUTES down the drain trying to get a meager 1-2% progression of the event.

Yeah this is another rigged event with impossible final boss that the whales will say they had no problem with because they got all the Battle Pass stuff.

I just beat it with base characters....
lobster Apr 20, 2023 @ 10:11pm 
the boss is easy but the time spent doing them is definitely not fast enough considering how much of the dungeon is just soul draining press-win-rate fights

for how much you need to do for 13 days its definitely much
Last edited by lobster; Apr 20, 2023 @ 10:11pm
Zalgo Apr 20, 2023 @ 10:22pm 
Originally posted by lobster:
the boss is easy but the time spent doing them is definitely not fast enough considering how much of the dungeon is just soul draining press-win-rate fights

for how much you need to do for 13 days its definitely much

For me I just do 3-5 Event Dungeons a day and replace MDs entirely. The crate reward the event gives is by far more efficient than the amount MDs give over the course of two weeks.
Fadeway Apr 20, 2023 @ 10:47pm 
Originally posted by lobster:
the boss is easy but the time spent doing them is definitely not fast enough considering how much of the dungeon is just soul draining press-win-rate fights
i just start the game and press the button while doing some other activity like youtube
id find it more soul draining if i had to repeat the same battles while actually paying attention
Geoluread Apr 20, 2023 @ 10:58pm 
I also did it with base sinners (Yi Sang, Heathcliff, Outis, Sinclair, Ryoshu) and I promise I'm not saying this to "flex," as I am by no means an expert. I'm sure a better team exists, but this team does well enough in the normal fights and has plenty of synergy with EGO gifts. Sinclair base EGO goes crazy with rupture gift, him and Outis also have rupture on their S1. Speed-clashing gift is incredible, and you are guaranteed to get at least one of these two (but maybe both). Getting levels is really important too though, getting all to 30 is recommended but you can manage with one or maybe two at 15. Shi Ishmael can also be used to great effect by getting her weakened early, S2 just beats everything. Chef Gregor is also not bad, he inflicts bind and you can inflict paralysis with an unopposed S1 to make clashes easier for slower sinners. Any good units you have can help but some will just be worse than a base sinner. For the boss, just focus on staying afloat while you whittle the basket. Kill the chickens. A resistant sinner can redirect 2-coin body attack so you can focus on the basket. Save EGO for when you really need it.
Just don't use Auto and you'll be fine. Auto is really Bad sometimes for this Game's Harder Content ( Railway/Story Dungeon ). I'm using all the KFC Identities for max currency gain along with NFaust/GOutis and Kurokumo Honlu. The Coin Flip will still fk you up sometimes ( Cause Boss Hits Hard ) but it's beatable if you focus on dps staggering the Boss instead of the Minions 90% of the Time even if you don't have the Busted Identities. Don't forget to abuse the Fragile Debuff Stack like in Railway if you have those Identities ( So you could bring R.Heatcliff, WDon or LCBM Ish ).
Last edited by DAVOS CENSORSHIP 2030 FTW!!!; Apr 21, 2023 @ 2:25am
Desdemona369 Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:07am 
avoid using units weak to blunt, duh. theyre gonna lose clashes more and take more damage for your mistake. most of their attacks are blunt damage and they are mostly weak to slash damage, so do as you will to get the advantage
teamol Apr 21, 2023 @ 9:26am 
Bongies
the bongies roll heads alot indeed, but they have 1 coin only. so try using multi-coins clashing theirs out. of course they can still do heads alot too, but that kinda helped me decreasing the damages i got, for all it takes is one tail and their coin is gone. Although they deal really high damage, they're really weak themselves and usually can be killed with one skill, so I focus on winning the clashes instead of big damage,

The boss fight bongies also don't have that attack-up buff if not attacked for one round iirc. I sometimes even simply ignore the not attacking ones.

I am gacha ego normie, but during this event I tried using base Sinclair and turns out he's really good. Multi-coins slash skills, great damage. He's great at taking out bongy, for example.

boss
try to block two skills of the boss, the 1-coin and 4-coin ones. You can kinda ignore the rest. 1-coin attack summons new bongy on hit, and 4-coin just hurts like hell.

clash
Calculate the points you'd roll when you decide who to clash who. At this point the team usually have full sanity, so I basically plan it as I'd get all the heads. Dodging also usually rolls 14, which might not be ideal to deal with bongy as their heads are 18(19?), but most of the time it's good for the boss, and don't forget that successful dodges can continue through different enemy skills.

If you really can't win the clashes, you still can make someone tank the boss and let the others deal their damage for free. I do that frequently because the boss usually attacks ~2 times per round at most, and sometimes one of them is not that risky to not clash with.
Last edited by teamol; Apr 21, 2023 @ 9:34am
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