Tips to defeat My Form Empties

[Tenth]

Any tips how to defeat My Form Empties in Refraction round 13?

I'm only have Kurokumo Ryosu + Rodion, Tingtang Hong Lu, Blade Lineage Sinclair, LCCB Ishmael. I've been targeting an attack on My Form Empties, but they keeps releasing karma so my unit quickly staggers and dies. Is there a solution?

[Coin]

Kill the lowest hp guy first turn even if you have to take a bit of dmg or karma. Then simply clash what you need to and you can win in under 10 turns. Use ego if you somehow don't have a good clash potential.

Btw you don't really need to clash his buffs, bc they don't do anything really.

[RomanTheEvil]

Karma is transferred from one character to another when they hit with an attack. If a character accumulates 108 karma they die at the end of the turn. If you can reliably win clashes you can either collect karma from My Form and then use your IDs to transfer it to opponent of your choice, or clash with my form itself to make it put karma on random allies instead of you. Every few turns (I think 3-4) my form will use 3 serious attacks on a character with most karma (be it your ID or one of my Form's allies) which is deadly since each of these attacks builds up 50 karma and that is enough to put the character above 108 for instant death at the end of the turn. I suspect (did not try it yet) that if you balance karma between different enemies so that 2 or 3 have the same amount of karma (and more karma than your IDs) my form might split its serious attacks between several allies and distribute karma more evenly to speed up the run.

[Saler]

I can add that status effect damage (like Burn) helps. The part of My Form Empties that uses Karma granting attacks can be broken to give a high amount of Karma to one of it's allies, while also making MFE target randomly for a turn, potentially giving them more Karma, and status effect damage goes through it's protection. I think breaking the part also disables Karma transferring for a turn, which is something that you should look out for.

[A5G_Reaper]

If you have R heathcliff a single 6+ speed quick suppression can instakill the mariachi lady.

That aside, spam EGO and just win clashes? Eventually the karma will accumulate on the enemies and they dies. Then you focus fire the boss which is a pushover by itself. Takes quite a bit of time this way though.

[Lycan]

Originally posted by Tenth:

Any tips how to defeat My Form Empties in Refraction round 13?

I'm only have Kurokumo Ryosu + Rodion, Tingtang Hong Lu, Blade Lineage Sinclair, LCCB Ishmael. I've been targeting an attack on My Form Empties, but they keeps releasing karma so my unit quickly staggers and dies. Is there a solution?

- You do not have meta IDs, so consider to drop LCCB Ishmael for other options (Liu Gregor is also very good).
- Also, your damage burst is not very good as well, so it's better to stack karma and let the enemy dies with it. Every time you win clashes against some of the the boss' skils, it stack karma on its allies.
- Then, just defensively play around it until turn 10, where you will prob stack enough karma to kill the mobs. It's time for take down the boss. Just win clash and carefully chip down its HP. Then when the "special action" starts. spam everything you have on the staggered boss or it will start spamming AoE at you.
- Also, if needed, use AoE. This is the last stage, so do not save them. If you need to win the clash, just throw the skill out.

That's it. Good luck.

[Martian Patriot]

Originally posted by Coin:

Kill the lowest hp guy first turn even if you have to take a bit of dmg or karma. Then simply clash what you need to and you can win in under 10 turns. Use ego if you somehow don't have a good clash potential.

Btw you don't really need to clash his buffs, bc they don't do anything really.

Anybody else having the problem where you bring Aida to 0 hp but she doesn't die and heals that 612hp all the way back up? Because that keeps happening to me

[gigastar]

Originally posted by DANGER NOODLE:

Originally posted by Coin:

Kill the lowest hp guy first turn even if you have to take a bit of dmg or karma. Then simply clash what you need to and you can win in under 10 turns. Use ego if you somehow don't have a good clash potential.

Btw you don't really need to clash his buffs, bc they don't do anything really.

Anybody else having the problem where you bring Aida to 0 hp but she doesn't die and heals that 612hp all the way back up? Because that keeps happening to me

Thats because youre seeing her part HP over her main HP

[Ga1ahad]

Originally posted by A5G_Reaper:

If you have R heathcliff a single 6+ speed quick suppression can instakill the mariachi lady.

Poor Aida, completely forgotten

[Reptiloid]

It is a pain in the ass, but doable. Either bring a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of ego res and clash everything with ego and play defensively, or bring R-hearthcliff and remove Aida and, uh, do the same. Keep in mind that Krama also increases damage taken, so stacking around 50 karmaon Guido can make killing him a lot easier.