Rework the luxcavation to enkephalin modules

[RyuukiNawa]

Hello Project moon, can you please put the luxcavations enkephalins modules? At least for the final level (40 energy each=2enkephalin modules)? because the enkephalins modules idea is great for people who have not so much time but can reserve it to grind. please.

[Nyxtus]

They did it because people saved up modules so they thought they needed it to use raw enkephalin as a "different resource". This is really stupid and short-sighted, however, because the whole point of modules is saving your enkephalin for later when you have the ability to sit down and play the game.

[shoopy]

I think it's more to slow down people getting BP level 60 in a matter of days and bragging about how they farm it for shards.

[Reptiloid]

Eh, I will think they'l just drop it's energy cost, so at least you can clear 3 luxcavations in 1 session without the need to wait pleas ffs I don't even need exp tickets so much just give me threads without the need to wait hours to finish a daily dose. And, what the hell do I do now with 100+ modules T_T

[DragonCorpVI]

They just need to lower the enkephalin cost, maybe down to like 20/25/30 instead or even slightly lower than that

MD was designed I think to only take modules because it has the daily free entry. Its designed this way so that it only takes 3 days in a week to finish the weekly bonuses, every additional entry after that is just to get a little bit more of the EXP pass. So the modules are there for players who want to finish the weekly bonuses quickly in one day or make additional entries.

Originally posted by Nyxtus:

They did it because people saved up modules so they thought they needed it to use raw enkephalin as a "different resource". This is really stupid and short-sighted, however, because the whole point of modules is saving your enkephalin for later when you have the ability to sit down and play the game.

Though, what like this person has said, its flawed because modules is basically different but yet the same as the enkephalin because its basically a "Pack" of enkephalin per unit, it might be a different resource, but it still uses the same resource to create this resource.

They could easily fix by creating daily, weekly, chapter missions outside of the Season Pass that rewards various resources, like modules and make it so that modules can't be created by converting enkephalin to it and make it an actual special resource that can only be earned from the daily, weekly and chapter missions

[DoT]

People only think about the energy they have currently, if you do a little in the morning / midday, and do a little later at night.
(you can easily make time for it btw because how quick they are)
you can get a decent amount of resources every day

doing the thread luxcivation 5 times a day will get you 96 thread in 4 days, thats enough to max out a 000 character (well nearly, you need 100). At that rate, you can easily level up 000 characters way before the next one comes out. If you could do it quicker, the luxcavation would serve no purpose besides more BP experience for when you max out every character.

I think the main issue is people looking for something that instantly lets them uptie a character to 3, and level 30, in a single day. which isn't the goal here

[Nyxtus]

Originally posted by DoT:

People only think about the energy they have currently, if you do a little in the morning / midday, and do a little later at night.
(you can easily make time for it btw because how quick they are)
you can get a decent amount of resources every day

doing the thread luxcivation 5 times a day will get you 96 thread in 4 days, thats enough to max out a 000 character (well nearly, you need 100). At that rate, you can easily level up 000 characters way before the next one comes out. If you could do it quicker, the luxcavation would serve no purpose besides more BP experience for when you max out every character.

I think the main issue is people looking for something that instantly lets them uptie a character to 3, and level 30, in a single day. which isn't the goal here

You completely ignored every single persons point, which had nothing to do with the rewards and everything to do with the fact it uses enkaphalin, a lot of it, and not modules.

[SummonerPrime]

you get lunacy from the thread luxcavation 40 per difficulty on first clear of the day. You can use it to refresh your enk which gives plenty for the dailies on the highest difficulty and extra (depending on your level). Its plenty to do the dailies if you plan it out right. So i dont think its really needed to change the enk to modules cause it doesn't make a difference if you do Thread lux lvl 30 -> thread lux (the other level) --> refill for 26 lunacy --> do another thread or xp --> xp/thread --> refill for 52 --> do the last two needed leaving a bit extra for a module.

[Nyxtus]

Originally posted by SummonerPrime:

you get lunacy from the thread luxcavation 40 per difficulty on first clear of the day. You can use it to refresh your enk which gives plenty for the dailies on the highest difficulty and extra (depending on your level). Its plenty to do the dailies if you plan it out right.

I've been wondering about this, is it really first clear of the day of each difficulty awards Lunacy? I thought it was a first clear period, but I also received more Lunacy today. Is it stated anywhere that this is how it's supposed to work?

[SummonerPrime]

Originally posted by Nyxtus:

Originally posted by SummonerPrime:

you get lunacy from the thread luxcavation 40 per difficulty on first clear of the day. You can use it to refresh your enk which gives plenty for the dailies on the highest difficulty and extra (depending on your level). Its plenty to do the dailies if you plan it out right.

I've been wondering about this, is it really first clear of the day of each difficulty awards Lunacy? I thought it was a first clear period, but I also received more Lunacy today. Is it stated anywhere that this is how it's supposed to work?

I did it today and its thread luxcavation per level so 80 lunacy if you do both. THis leaves a perfect amount for 2 free refills per day and 2 lunacy for free! assuming they dont change it of course.

[DoT]

Originally posted by Nyxtus:

Originally posted by DoT:

People only think about the energy they have currently, if you do a little in the morning / midday, and do a little later at night.
(you can easily make time for it btw because how quick they are)
you can get a decent amount of resources every day

You completely ignored every single persons point, which had nothing to do with the rewards and everything to do with the fact it uses enkaphalin, a lot of it, and not modules.

No, its you who completely ignored what i said,

"if you do a little in the morning / midday, and do a little later at night.
(you can easily make time for it btw because how quick they are)
you can get a decent amount of resources every day"

Don't be a selective reader, it just makes you look bad. Especially when you are clearly wrong about me "ignoring that the cost is to high". Because i clearly mentioned that and gave examples of how you can do several throughout the day because people forget they can wait for the energy to refill, in the same day, not just putting it off till tomorrow

[Nyxtus]

Originally posted by SummonerPrime:

Originally posted by Nyxtus:

I've been wondering about this, is it really first clear of the day of each difficulty awards Lunacy? I thought it was a first clear period, but I also received more Lunacy today. Is it stated anywhere that this is how it's supposed to work?

I did it today and its thread luxcavation per level so 80 lunacy if you do both. THis leaves a perfect amount for 2 free refills per day and 2 lunacy for free! assuming they dont change it of course.

Interesting. So the EXP Dungeon doesn't give Lunacy, but the Thread Dungeon gives a first clear reward, once per difficulty, daily? If this is intended that is incredibly generous, but it's odd that it only applies to the Thread Dungeon.

I really wish they'd officially say something about this because if this is a glitch or something they overlooked, it would make sense because it's absurdly generous.

[Nyxtus]

Originally posted by DoT:

Originally posted by Nyxtus:

You completely ignored every single persons point, which had nothing to do with the rewards and everything to do with the fact it uses enkaphalin, a lot of it, and not modules.

No, its you who completely ignored what i said,

"if you do a little in the morning / midday, and do a little later at night.
(you can easily make time for it btw because how quick they are)
you can get a decent amount of resources every day"

Don't be a selective reader, it just makes you look bad. Especially when you are clearly wrong about me "ignoring that the cost is to high". Because i clearly mentioned that and gave examples of how you can do several throughout the day because people forget they can wait for the energy to refill, in the same day, not just putting it off till tomorrow

Dunning Kruger. You didn't refute anyone's claims on why using Modules would be more friendly to the individuals time and cited some nonsense strawman about maxing identities instantly, which nobody claimed or even cited once. Stop wasting my time if you're unwilling to engage with anyone's argument.

Let me help your direction here, since you're so aimless and rambling about nothing.

The argument you want to make is WHY using energy versus modules is a better/good idea, and why it would be bad if we could use modules for these daily dungeons. Modules are a convenience feature, why would it be bad to be able to use them in daily dungeons? Please, explain it to all of us here since you're privy to the reasoning.

I'll help you out even further, because I'm such a good guy and no child left behind obviously left you way behind.

"Well Nyxtus, people have been stockpiling Modules over a long period of time and if they used all of those on the Thread and EXP Dungeons it might allow them to accelerate their progress beyond what the dev's had intended"

You're welcome.

[SummonerPrime]

Originally posted by Nyxtus:

Originally posted by SummonerPrime:

I did it today and its thread luxcavation per level so 80 lunacy if you do both. THis leaves a perfect amount for 2 free refills per day and 2 lunacy for free! assuming they dont change it of course.

Interesting. So the EXP Dungeon doesn't give Lunacy, but the Thread Dungeon gives a first clear reward, once per difficulty, daily? If this is intended that is incredibly generous, but it's odd that it only applies to the Thread Dungeon.

I really wish they'd officially say something about this because if this is a glitch or something they overlooked, it would make sense because it's absurdly generous.

I think we should keep it hush hush, just so its our little secret (i dont want them to change it)

[shoopy]

It seems ok to me considering how people were so willing to dump all their enk for shards.

80 enk gets you 10 silver and 10 gold tickets now, which you used to get for 60, and now you can get lunacy to refresh. You used to get too much, so I think this is a more reasonable middle ground.

BP gain is like twice as much for half the work and now you get lunacy which lets you easily refresh basically for free. If you're just BP farming then you don't really need to do more than one of each luxcavation per day. If you do the lowest ones it's 65 enk for a whole BP level.

If you got low levels, just focus on one thing at a time. It was way too easy to rush before and have level 25 max uptie 000s on the same day you pulled them and I think it spoiled people.

[RyuukiNawa]

people! Whe are losing the point: putting luxcavation in enkephalin modules will reduce a lot of stacked enkephalin!