Is it Taboo to kill a Finger or Color? (Is General Discussions the right place for this kind of question?)

[Neo]

Categorizing everything i know (and think/theorize) about Limbus Company (the game) and currently figuring out who it is and isn't taboo to kill and most importantly right now these two. (If General Discussions isn't the right place to ask these questions please inform me as to where is. Thank you.)

[Reptiloid]

Generally speaking Taboos are just like city laws or syndicate rules, but are on district level. If someone breaks them, then the corp will try to punish you. There are laws in teh city, which isn't much different from Taboo except it comes from the Head, which has more power and can assert their control on the whole city. But it all comes down to the power fo enforcing said taboo. For example, the Thumb syndicate does not uphold the Head's law on gun bans and manufactures them, though in limited quality bc expensive. Apparently the Head can't enforce their rules on them or completely get rid of them, so, yeah. Taboos are warranted by strenght, y know, like our regular laws irl.

[SmallGespenst]

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the Thumb syndicate does not uphold the Head's law on gun bans and manufactures them, though in limited quality bc expensive.

I'm fairly sure this is not correct, to start with, Guns are not banned, they're just subject to strict controls, otherwise Offices like Full-Stop from LoR wouldn't be able to function.
The high price on ammunition is mostly a result of heavy taxes levied by The Head, so the fact that The Thumb deal with limited supplies and high costs for ammunition implies that despite manufacturing in-house or in affiliated Workshops, they still pay their taxes

[Neo]

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I think you are misunderstanding that killing someone may be considered a taboo in the city.
I think you are also missing some info.

Fixers are basically mercenary of the city. They do any jobs as long they are paid enough. When a group of fixers decide to work together to protect their own benefit, they are called Office. Their work are legalized by the Hana association. Colors are simply fixers strong enough that you shouldn't mess with them. Killing them isn't a taboo but the fame surrounding them is big enough to tell you that there will be a lot of conseguences with their death.

Syndicates are a mafia-like group. They have their own rules and they don't follow the city or nests' rules. As long they don't touch one of taboo of the city, the Head will never move a finger to wipe them out. Death and exploitation in the backstreets is so common that you can understand how much they care about human's life.
The head didn't move a finger when fixers and syndicates started to raid the L nests after the destruction of Lob corp which was the authority that protect it.

As far as city's taboo go, I only know that creating AI that feel human emotion is absolute forbitten. While I know that the Head send Claws to deal with people that broke a taboo, I don't know the specific of which taboo was broken.
It doesn't help that each corp also do illegal stuff hidden from the eyes of the Head.

Thank you for the explanation but the only correct parts of it i didn't already know about/understand were the specifics of the Taboo system and Colors. Although i do have a question i would like to ask now. Corps get more then one nest or is that a typo?

[Neo]

Първоначално публикувано от SmallGespenst:

Първоначално публикувано от Reptiloid:

the Thumb syndicate does not uphold the Head's law on gun bans and manufactures them, though in limited quality bc expensive.

I'm fairly sure this is not correct, to start with, Guns are not banned, they're just subject to strict controls, otherwise Offices like Full-Stop from LoR wouldn't be able to function.
The high price on ammunition is mostly a result of heavy taxes levied by The Head, so the fact that The Thumb deal with limited supplies and high costs for ammunition implies that despite manufacturing in-house or in affiliated Workshops, they still pay their taxes

(Edited) Gimme a minute to open LoR and i'm pretty sure i can find a cutscene that states how that law works.

Aight nvm someone beat me to it.

[SmallGespenst]

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Thank you for the explanation but the only correct parts of it i didn't already know about/understand were the specifics of the Taboo system and Colors. Although i do have a question i would like to ask now. Corps get more then one nest or is that a typo?

to answer your question; each Wing gets one nest. 26 wings and 26 nests.
Which raises questions about Z corp and where its district even is because the maps Project Moon have released only have 25 districts. on the Limbus Company website they even have text talking about the 26 districts alongside a map that shows 25

[Nope]

Първоначално публикувано от Reptiloid:

Generally speaking Taboos are just like city laws or syndicate rules, but are on district level. If someone breaks them, then the corp will try to punish you. There are laws in teh city, which isn't much different from Taboo except it comes from the Head, which has more power and can assert their control on the whole city. But it all comes down to the power fo enforcing said taboo. For example, the Thumb syndicate does not uphold the Head's law on gun bans and manufactures them, though in limited quality bc expensive. Apparently the Head can't enforce their rules on them or completely get rid of them, so, yeah. Taboos are warranted by strenght.

There isn’t a gun ban law but rather the price for gun and bullet is heavily taxed
The general laws they might not care about, but the Taboo is a different story, they will go all the way to hunt down those that violated their Taboo, even hired Mercenaries called Taboo Hunter to do their job and these guys are pretty high ranked Fixers, fighting a hired Taboo Hunter are equal to fighting against the Wing too

The Head most of the time does not care for whatever happen in The City, having the Syndicate doing their stuff in the city are actually giving the Head a favor, as long as it keep people in lines and have less time to think about revolting against them, everything goes
And when a Claw and an Arbiter are dispatched, no one is safe

[Reptiloid]

Първоначално публикувано от SmallGespenst:

Първоначално публикувано от Reptiloid:

the Thumb syndicate does not uphold the Head's law on gun bans and manufactures them, though in limited quality bc expensive.

I'm fairly sure this is not correct, to start with, Guns are not banned, they're just subject to strict controls, otherwise Offices like Full-Stop from LoR wouldn't be able to function.
The high price on ammunition is mostly a result of heavy taxes levied by The Head, so the fact that The Thumb deal with limited supplies and high costs for ammunition implies that despite manufacturing in-house or in affiliated Workshops, they still pay their taxes

Well, according to the wiki: They have so much power and influence that not even , the Head, the Eye, and the Claw can easily impose their authority onto them thus rendering the Backstreets as untouchable under their jurisdiction.

So, I am certain that I am right in this understanding of the game universe, even if I am wrong in this particular example. The syndicates operate mostly outside of the authority of the head and they can't be easily taken down. I mean, how can you take down easily a will of the city syndicate which is seemingly 1 step ahead.

[Livy]

Първоначално публикувано от SmallGespenst:

Първоначално публикувано от Reptiloid:

the Thumb syndicate does not uphold the Head's law on gun bans and manufactures them, though in limited quality bc expensive.

I'm fairly sure this is not correct, to start with, Guns are not banned, they're just subject to strict controls, otherwise Offices like Full-Stop from LoR wouldn't be able to function.
The high price on ammunition is mostly a result of heavy taxes levied by The Head, so the fact that The Thumb deal with limited supplies and high costs for ammunition implies that despite manufacturing in-house or in affiliated Workshops, they still pay their taxes

Yeah, guns are highly regulated and you need some pretty modified bullets to even dent certain orgs.

Like in chapter 3 we We both get mutilated by and mutilate a bunch of K-Corp border guards, yet in the end no one are really harmed even if limbs were flying.

[Neo]

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Първоначално публикувано от Neo:

Thank you for the explanation but the only correct parts of it i didn't already know about/understand were the specifics of the Taboo system and Colors. Although i do have a question i would like to ask now. Corps get more then one nest or is that a typo?

to answer your question; each Wing gets one nest. 26 wings and 26 nests.
Which raises questions about Z corp and where its district even is because the maps Project Moon have released only have 25 districts. on the Limbus Company website they even have text talking about the 26 districts alongside a map that shows 25

Aight thank you. Got confused since they said nests and i thought it might have been something on the wiki i didn't know about.

[Reptiloid]

Първоначално публикувано от Nope:

There isn’t a gun ban law but rather the price for gun and bullet is heavily taxed
The general laws they might not care about, but the Taboo is a different story, they will go all the way to hunt down those that violated their Taboo, even hired Mercenaries called Taboo Hunter to do their job and these guys are pretty high ranked Fixers, fighting a hired Taboo Hunter are equal to revolting against the Wing too

The Head most of the time does not care for whatever happen in The City, having the Syndicate doing their stuff in the city are actually giving the Head a favor, as long as it keep people in lines and have less time to think about revolting against them, everything goes
And when a Claw and an Arbiter are dispatched, no one is safe

Well, considering that aribiter's aren't omnipotent and can be defeated by color fixer given enough cunning. And, well, the "laws" in question are actually a Taboo of the head, jsut like the one they placed on sweepers and their actions. And, well, it's kind of impossible to tell whether the head "cares" about what's going on and in what way. Their motives are not explained, maybe it's just to maintain their technocratic power just for the sake of it, who knows.

[Neo]

Going to go slightly off-topic here for something unlikely i thought of. If i recall correctly Sweepers cannot survive if they get decapitated. Is that true?

[Reptiloid]

Първоначално публикувано от Neo:

Going to go slightly off-topic here for something unlikely i thought of. If i recall correctly Sweepers cannot survive if they get decapitated. Is that true?

Idk about "decapitated" but according to Lor and maybe other comics Sweepers are a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ liquid lifeform in the tank and the suit, yeah. So if they're decapitated which will probably make them spill their guts all over the place, they're dead

[Neo]

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Първоначално публикувано от Neo:

Going to go slightly off-topic here for something unlikely i thought of. If i recall correctly Sweepers cannot survive if they get decapitated. Is that true?

Idk about "decapitated" but according to Lor and maybe other comics Sweepers are a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ liquid lifeform in the tank and the suit, yeah. So if they're decapitated which will probably make them spill their guts all over the place, they're dead

Always good to doublecheck. Thank you. Wrongly recalled it as solid but overall more fragile outside the suit

[Nope]

Първоначално публикувано от Reptiloid:

Well, considering that aribiter's aren't omnipotent and can be defeated by color fixer given enough cunning. And, well, the "laws" in question are actually a Taboo of the head, jsut like the one they placed on sweepers and their actions. And, well, it's kind of impossible to tell whether the head "cares" about what's going on and in what way. Their motives are not explained, maybe it's just to maintain their technocratic power just for the sake of it, who knows.

There’s barely anyone can fight against The Claw and The Arbiter actually, Gebura was the only one confirmed
A Color is just a strong Grade 1 Fixer that can solo Star of the City threat, they aren’t necessarily strong enough to goes toes on toes with a Claw let alone an Arbiter

Well there is laws like killing people obviously land your a criminal charge, normal stuff we have like that, whether they are caught or not doesn’t really matter
Taboo are way more strict that is they’ll hunt you down as long as you’re still in the District (or The City if you violate the Head taboo, resident building wall breaking, sentient AI, Sweeper walk through Nest boundary like you mentioned, etc…)

The Head motives never been explain aside that they does not care about what happen in the City unless their taboo been violated, or someone breaking the status quo of their “little garden”
Yeah the Head aren’t omnipotent, but they’re extremely cunning with the ability to gather information from The Beholder corp B (they know about the Library from the very start), they can do whatever they want, with their “garden citizen” is busy trying to survive everyday

[Nope]

Първоначално публикувано от Neo:

Going to go slightly off-topic here for something unlikely i thought of. If i recall correctly Sweepers cannot survive if they get decapitated. Is that true?

Yeah, decapitated will kill them or cutting them in half will do too, shallow cut or not finishing them off in one hit will have them healed fast with the liquid from their body flow out to the wound