Hard Mode Guido

[Ekimmak]

... Seriously, how am I supposed to beat this? To start, they start off with one extra skill slot, so you're outnumbered. But everything they roll is in the A grade "Will beat your best standard skills if they keep rolling heads". And then Guido gives all his friends +10 SP. Before you even get to attack, so you're already rolling poorly, but it's EVERY TURN.
And before you can hope to have any good EGO resources or EGO gifts, because I have absolutely nothing.

Sincerely, what are you supposed to do when your team is mostly pierce or blunt weak?

[Minh]

Press button "Give Up" & try again / "Forfeit". It's Floor 1. Not much progress loss.

[Ekimmak]

You know, I'm sure you think you're very clever and funny, but when this is my sixth time trying, where all the enemies are consistently breaking through any hope I have of victory because "Oh, yeah, I have this guaranteed perfect roll on a 20 power attack" keeps happening back to back.

You aren't.

[Minh]

Originally posted by Ekimmak:

You know, I'm sure you think you're very clever and funny, but when this is my sixth time trying, where all the enemies are consistently breaking through any hope I have of victory because "Oh, yeah, I have this guaranteed perfect roll on a 20 power attack" keeps happening back to back.

You aren't.

It's what I did. You aren't.

[gigastar]

usually be the end of floor 1 im ready to drop a Fluid Sac or two

[Ekimmak]

I sadly didn't have any luck with gloom production. I had a lot of Pride, but no Gluttony to spam Representation Emitter.

It just feels wrong that there's this one in four chance of getting a near impossible fight, because their attacks are just so much higher than what you could reasonably respond to.

Standing out more because Guido starts with two skill slots, so he's blatantly stronger than the alternatives.

[Tharmund]

what IDs are you using?

[Birp]

Originally posted by Ekimmak:

I sadly didn't have any luck with gloom production. I had a lot of Pride, but no Gluttony to spam Representation Emitter.

It just feels wrong that there's this one in four chance of getting a near impossible fight, because their attacks are just so much higher than what you could reasonably respond to.

Standing out more because Guido starts with two skill slots, so he's blatantly stronger than the alternatives.

Guido is the hardest floor 1 boss by far, but he still should be pretty doable even w/o Fluid Sac or Legerdemain (<- makes the fight piss easy).

What IDs are you running and what levels?

[Ekimmak]

I don't have my IDs maxed level, they hover around 30-34. NFaust, Kuro Rodion, Kuro Ryoshu, Kuro Hong Lu, and Shi Ishmael.

Of those, only Hong Lu has Uptie 4, everyone else is Uptie 3.

[Minh]

Originally posted by Ekimmak:

I don't have my IDs maxed level, they hover around 30-34. NFaust, Kuro Rodion, Kuro Ryoshu, Kuro Hong Lu, and Shi Ishmael.

Of those, only Hong Lu has Uptie 4, everyone else is Uptie 3.

That's 1 reason. IDENTITYies MAXimum LEVELs them Up. You aren't. Did you use Defense Skills for Struggling & Hopeless Clashes? They don't gain Sanity Points if Win Clashes against Defense Skills.

[Birp]

Originally posted by Ekimmak:

I don't have my IDs maxed level, they hover around 30-34. NFaust, Kuro Rodion, Kuro Ryoshu, Kuro Hong Lu, and Shi Ishmael.

Of those, only Hong Lu has Uptie 4, everyone else is Uptie 3.

That's like 3 slash ids, 2 pierce ids, 0 blunt ids (except for Faust s3).

Probably replace K Rodion with something else imo.

[Ekimmak]

They still get +SP from Guido. And I do try defensive skills, but they just hit so hard.
I've seen the common enemies getting 50-100 damage unopposed, the guard and counter skills don't help. And the evade skills don't work, because the enemies are rolling positive coins with that high SP so they don't miss.

That's the problem I'm having. They use blunt and pierce, and only two of my five characters aren't fatal to one or the other... And they outnumber my skill slots from the start. So I'm taking unopposed hits that are fatal, or I'm losing clashes and taking even worse unopposed hits.

[Minh]

Originally posted by Birp:

Originally posted by Ekimmak:

I don't have my IDs maxed level, they hover around 30-34. NFaust, Kuro Rodion, Kuro Ryoshu, Kuro Hong Lu, and Shi Ishmael.

Of those, only Hong Lu has Uptie 4, everyone else is Uptie 3.

That's like 3 slash ids, 2 pierce ids, 0 blunt ids (except for Faust s3).

Probably replace K Rodion with something else imo.

Swap her with Don Quixote Shi Assoc.iation - S.outhern Branch, Sec.tion 5 Director.

[Ekimmak]

I do have almost all IDs by this point. I only lack Blade Sinclair and Cinq Quixote.
But you can only bring 3 000 ID at the start of a hard mirror dungeon run, so you have to bring at least two 00 ID to a run. And I'm still trying to figure out how to properly run a hard dungeon when guides are somewhat lackluster.

[Minh]

Originally posted by Ekimmak:

I do have almost all IDs by this point. I only lack Blade Sinclair and Cinq Quixote.
But you can only bring 3 000 ID at the start of a hard mirror dungeon run, so you have to bring at least two 00 ID to a run. And I'm still trying to figure out how to properly run a hard dungeon when guides are somewhat lackluster.

You've best stuff but you don't use them.

Use these. They must be at IDENTITYies MAXimum LEVELs 35 & Uptie Current Tiers III:

Don Quixote Shi Assoc.iation - S.outhern Branch, Sec.tion 5 Director,

Ryōshū Kurokumo Clan Wakashu,

Heathcliff Replication CORP.ORATION Wing of the World Fourth 4th Rabbit Team Member,

Ishmael Shi Assoc.iation - S.outhern Branch, Sec.tion 5 Fixer,

& Emil Sinclair N CORP.ORATION Wing of the World Nagel und Hammer The One Who Shall Grip.

[DT]

Originally posted by Ekimmak:

I don't have my IDs maxed level, they hover around 30-34.

That seriously one of main reason.

Every 1 level = 1 atk level = 1 more base damage for each coin hit
Every 3 atk level = 1 clash power

Max all ID you plan to use on Hard mode. Grind luxacatrive if you don't have enough tickets.