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경鏡 Jul 29, 2023 @ 5:59am
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Do you know that Project Moon fired a story illustrator for a ridiculous reason?
Hello, I'm one of the gamers of South-Korea. So I tell you in advance that my English is poor.

So to speak, The reason why I am writing here, despite my poor English, is as follows.

Because the style of the story illustration will change in the future soon. It must have been hard for you to know, because Project Moon only announced it in Korean. But do you know why the style of the story illustration changes? Because the illustrator was fired.

And, can you assume why she was fired? According to Project Moon's claim, she was fired because she broke the rules.

PM asserts the illustrator mentioned inappropriate thoughts that can be controversial by SNS, so they fired her as a result. But the argument is absurd. Because the claim is a lie.

Truth is here. It's not long so much. Therefore, PLZ READ IT CAREFULLY.

The crazy fanboys for PM were upset that the swimsuit designs of the female characters in the game were not sexually appealing.

They were offended by the supposed feminism in the game, and they found the source of the feminism in the illustrator.

PM has two main illustrators. One is male and is the gacha illustrator, and the other is female and is the story illustrator.

Fanboys accused the story illustrator for offending them by making ideologically problematic statements on a Twitter account she used before joining the company.

They barged into PM's headquarters without consent, to demand that she be punished, and terrified PM's employees.

However, after the incident, instead of protecting the illustrator, PM unilaterally fired her. On the public announcement, they cited a clause in her contract that said she could be terminated if she got into trouble with social media.

But she had done nothing wrong in this case. The problematic behaviors that fanboys accused her of doing were, for the most part, perfectly normal. What's wrong with retweeting a tweet telling in public, not to take a hidden camera (usually illegally installed in wall or door)?

On the other hand, South Korea is a highly sexist country, dominated not only by violent crime statistics, but also by male violence against women in everyday life. Under these circumstances, it's not surprising that the illustrator, who was underage at the time, would be sympathetic to the cause.

And even if it was a problematic behavior, is a minor incident that happened years before she was hired a justifiable reason to fire her?

And even if it is, is it fair to call her at 11 p.m. at night to give her a termination notice?

South Korean labor law requires one month's written notice of termination, so it's illegal to give notice the same day, even over the phone.

Now I'd like to ask you a question. What did the illustrator, the fanboys, and the PM do that should be criticized?

Actually, the answer is obvious. It is the behavior of the fanboys and the PM that should be criticized.

I wanted to make this known to as many people as possible, So I wrote a post on my own blog postype.

It's the link. https://posty.pe/prr77r

It's written by Korean, but you can read and understand it by using Internet translation app.

However, I didn't think it was enough to get the word out to international users. That's why I'm writing this on Steam Community.

Please feel free to spread the word. And if you upload comments, I'll thank you so much. So that more people can be aware. So that we can comfort the illustrator who was wronged, so that this can never happen again, so that PM can never be wrong again. Please.
Last edited by 경鏡; Jul 29, 2023 @ 6:43pm
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Please, stop it now. The project moon was only wary of ideas, and the illustrator did not keep the promise, so the contract was terminated due to a breach of contract. On the contrary, would you stand still if the illustrator had damaged the company's image by writing about man-hate? Can you guarantee that the staff around you were not harmed by him? If you're really a project moon fan, think neutral.

The company is not a place to accept ideas.
YABY Jul 30, 2023 @ 2:12am 
Please, stop it now. The project moon was only wary of ideas, and the illustrator did not keep the promise, so the contract was terminated due to a breach of contract. On the contrary, would you stand still if the illustrator had damaged the company's image by writing about misogyny? Can you guarantee that the staff around you were not harmed by him? If you're really a project moon fan, think neutral.

The company is not a place to accept ideas.

Blah Blah Blah. Written in 5 years ago already deleted, so hard to found, and only person who found this problematic is DC incels...

Great demagoguery technique. But looks ridiculous. Clwony clown plays like clown.
Last edited by YABY; Jul 30, 2023 @ 2:13am
kimjjunim Jul 30, 2023 @ 2:13am 
It seems like PM broke the labor law in Korea based on the announcement they made.
They did say she was fired because of issue that was recently brought, and only issue for her was from her old deleted SNS account. I couldn't find any other issue about her that was recently made.
I did some research and apparently non of the company can fire someone with SNS post made before they got hired. So good luck PM and those who thinks it's about business, I would says for the business, they should have consulted with the lawyer before they fire someone with old deleted SNS post.

sigh......
I don't understand why some says it's nothing. I know it's tiring topic though.
If people let it slide, this will be an another bad example in game industry not just in Korea but also to any other game company around the world. I guess there are too many selfish people here.

Whatever, I don't play this game anymore because I don't want to pay to the company who doesn't respect or protect their employees.
Bishop Jul 30, 2023 @ 2:15am 
Please, stop it now. The project moon was only wary of ideas, and the illustrator did not keep the promise, so the contract was terminated due to a breach of contract. On the contrary, would you stand still if the illustrator had damaged the company's image by writing about man-hate? Can you guarantee that the staff around you were not harmed by him? If you're really a project moon fan, think neutral.

The company is not a place to accept ideas.
This is all lie. You know it, we know it, PM knows it. They fired her for something done as a an underage more than 6 year ago and already deleted before even joining them. Their only chance to leave this huge pr nightmare right now is to pay her a large sum of money as a compensation and give her and the player-base they ignored and keep ignoring to adhere to inclels an official apology.
kimjjunim Jul 30, 2023 @ 2:28am 
Please, stop it now. The project moon was only wary of ideas, and the illustrator did not keep the promise, so the contract was terminated due to a breach of contract. On the contrary, would you stand still if the illustrator had damaged the company's image by writing about man-hate? Can you guarantee that the staff around you were not harmed by him? If you're really a project moon fan, think neutral.

The company is not a place to accept ideas.


does all KR male incels do not have job? clearly they have no understanding in unfair dismissal.
They don't understand the law that are in their country? Sounds like those incels don't know how the world outside their room works.
You all say as if the PM's in-company regulation applies to this case, clearly it doesn't.
You need to know your own labor law better :/
kimjjunim Jul 30, 2023 @ 2:38am 
Originally posted by YABY:
Please, stop it now. The project moon was only wary of ideas, and the illustrator did not keep the promise, so the contract was terminated due to a breach of contract. On the contrary, would you stand still if the illustrator had damaged the company's image by writing about misogyny? Can you guarantee that the staff around you were not harmed by him? If you're really a project moon fan, think neutral.

The company is not a place to accept ideas.

Blah Blah Blah. Written in 5 years ago already deleted, so hard to found, and only person who found this problematic is DC incels...

Great demagoguery technique. But looks ridiculous. Clwony clown plays like clown.

LOL thumbs up.

Only if this KR male incels didn't dig up her dusty deleted account from the first place, and if they didn't go to the company, non of this would've happened.

If PM ignored them and protected their employee, if PM did not mention anything about their illustrator, non of us would have even cared whatever those incels go cry baby in their tiny sad online community.

It looks to me PM thinks those KR male incels are the only players they have.
the dismissed illustrator's deleted SNS is only important to the incels.
C'mon, non of us ever cared about or thought about digging into her dead SNS. A normal people don't do that.
It was never and never would've been a issue for other than them incels...
REVERSE BARRY Jul 30, 2023 @ 4:52am 
Originally posted by kimjjunim:
It seems like PM broke the labor law in Korea based on the announcement they made.
They did say she was fired because of issue that was recently brought, and only issue for her was from her old deleted SNS account. I couldn't find any other issue about her that was recently made.
I did some research and apparently non of the company can fire someone with SNS post made before they got hired. So good luck PM and those who thinks it's about business, I would says for the business, they should have consulted with the lawyer before they fire someone with old deleted SNS post.

sigh......
I don't understand why some says it's nothing. I know it's tiring topic though.
If people let it slide, this will be an another bad example in game industry not just in Korea but also to any other game company around the world. I guess there are too many selfish people here.

Whatever, I don't play this game anymore because I don't want to pay to the company who doesn't respect or protect their employees.

This. A lot of people like to bury their head in the sand regarding how companies treat not just their employees but their consumers. So many just go 'don't think about politic don't say the politic! DON'T THINK ABOUT THAT JUST PLAY GAME AND THEN GET EXCITED FOR NEXT GAME'.

It's literally pathetic, but glad to see not everyone has that philosophy.
sand Jul 30, 2023 @ 6:08am 
This situation is totally ridiculous. PM, Seriously? and some crazy guys were just mad becuz of no swimsuit for female chars? ♥♥♥♥ this ♥♥♥♥
Tobi Jul 30, 2023 @ 6:37am 
Yes I know, no I don't care I will keep playing this game
YABY Jul 30, 2023 @ 3:32pm 
Originally posted by Evarrice:
How long are going to see the same threads over and over again? It's not amusing anymore!

:steamfacepalm:
If you do not want to see, then just leave this forum and play your game! Then everybody would happy.

If you want to argue back, there are better ways to do it than by sulking like a five-year-old.

"I dont wanna see! I dont wanna see!" Who cares?
I don't know about foreign companies, but at least Korean companies should strictly abide by internal rules. Otherwise, it is a principle that there will be a reason for termination of the contract. I know what the fans of illustrators are trying to defend, but the principle is principle. If the reason for termination of this contract was illegal, the illustrator would have already reported it to the Labor Office and informed us of this. However, the illustrator is not responding at all.

And I saw several answers written about the previous article, but the answer is not logical, so I don't feel worth talking about anymore.
Once again, the company is not a place to spread your ideas. After all, it's a place to think of benefits.
kimjjunim Jul 30, 2023 @ 7:08pm 
I don't know about foreign companies, but at least Korean companies should strictly abide by internal rules. Otherwise, it is a principle that there will be a reason for termination of the contract. I know what the fans of illustrators are trying to defend, but the principle is principle. If the reason for termination of this contract was illegal, the illustrator would have already reported it to the Labor Office and informed us of this. However, the illustrator is not responding at all.

And I saw several answers written about the previous article, but the answer is not logical, so I don't feel worth talking about anymore.
Once again, the company is not a place to spread your ideas. After all, it's a place to think of benefits.

Steam community is not a place to show your ignorance, but sure, go a head.
Your country strictly, by the national law, can not fire an employee, with things she posted before she got hired.
It's everywhere in your Korean News Paper. but I guess you don't read them LMFAO
Right, Right, Incels don't look around world outside their 4ch kinda community. Pathetic.
Last edited by kimjjunim; Jul 30, 2023 @ 7:08pm
REVERSE BARRY Jul 30, 2023 @ 7:49pm 
I don't know about foreign companies, but at least Korean companies should strictly abide by internal rules. Otherwise, it is a principle that there will be a reason for termination of the contract. I know what the fans of illustrators are trying to defend, but the principle is principle. If the reason for termination of this contract was illegal, the illustrator would have already reported it to the Labor Office and informed us of this. However, the illustrator is not responding at all.

And I saw several answers written about the previous article, but the answer is not logical, so I don't feel worth talking about anymore.
Once again, the company is not a place to spread your ideas. After all, it's a place to think of benefits.

Assuming a lot there. For instance, that the Illustrator would keep us appraised of whatever legal actions she is taking - especially when all it took for her to get fired were incels digging up deleted tweets.
Nivinxus Jul 31, 2023 @ 12:13am 
Originally posted by WALRUS GUM BOOT:
I don't know about foreign companies, but at least Korean companies should strictly abide by internal rules. Otherwise, it is a principle that there will be a reason for termination of the contract. I know what the fans of illustrators are trying to defend, but the principle is principle. If the reason for termination of this contract was illegal, the illustrator would have already reported it to the Labor Office and informed us of this. However, the illustrator is not responding at all.

And I saw several answers written about the previous article, but the answer is not logical, so I don't feel worth talking about anymore.
Once again, the company is not a place to spread your ideas. After all, it's a place to think of benefits.

Assuming a lot there. For instance, that the Illustrator would keep us appraised of whatever legal actions she is taking - especially when all it took for her to get fired were incels digging up deleted tweets.

I think Vellmori would rather keep her cards close to her chest if she is planning legal action (or even lack thereof). When you think how insane incels are to easily gather information on tweets that were deleted, I don't think she can afford to make any announcement until she is absolutely sure of her options. This is her career and livelihood on the line (and even her own actual life, considering the amount of violence south korea is in).
Stranger Jul 31, 2023 @ 3:00am 
I don't know about foreign companies, but at least Korean companies should strictly abide by internal rules. Otherwise, it is a principle that there will be a reason for termination of the contract. I know what the fans of illustrators are trying to defend, but the principle is principle. If the reason for termination of this contract was illegal, the illustrator would have already reported it to the Labor Office and informed us of this. However, the illustrator is not responding at all.

And I saw several answers written about the previous article, but the answer is not logical, so I don't feel worth talking about anymore.
Once again, the company is not a place to spread your ideas. After all, it's a place to think of benefits.

Again, company policy is not a more authoritative law than labor law or the Constitution. Even if you put a condition in your contract, if it violates labor law, it's "wrongful termination". Just like when a rogue employer in South Korea doesn't pay their part-time workers the minimum wage. Please do your homework and don't incite, you idiot.

Seriously, if company rules were more authoritative than the law as you say, Korea would already be a nation of slaves.
Last edited by Stranger; Jul 31, 2023 @ 3:05am
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