A WIP Google Doc that delves into the current controversy

[panvich]

This is a work-in-progress google doc that tries to deep dive into the circumstances surrounding the recent Project Moon drama. It's still a bit incomplete but more and more citations, sources and details are being added overtime. Thoughts?

EDIT: Google Doc link broke

https://docs.google.com/document/d/110WyMBe9RpHy4CEcxIbg7llIJj0hUTYF8fkwShbzyCc/edit

[SPY123]

I don't see any google doc

[Tiggy]

Nobody really cares anymore. Just stop playing the game if you're so against the game.

[panvich]

Originally posted by Tiggy:

Nobody really cares anymore. Just stop playing the game if you're so against the game.

not against it, just think the writeup on south korea's political sphere was an interesting read

[SPY123]

Originally posted by Tiggy:

Nobody really cares anymore. Just stop playing the game if you're so against the game.

based on reddit there are still people who care about this

[Raziel]

It is annoying that I have to preface this with that I don't agree with the firing of the artist nor the blind aversion against feminism. However that said, the cultural whatever part that portrays history background is pretty heavily biased.

I'm not going to try to delve into trying to correct or add anything. This is just for external context. I don't know exactly when because I am not as interested and have a bad memory. But some years before 2018, Korean internet in general was much more receptive of women's movements and their various websites (of course there were still divides, and of course the amount of receptiveness does not solve women's problems nor would be sufficient. Societal/structural problems existed and still exist.). A huge number of people voted for the last president, who is the opposite party of the current, and his party resoundingly the local elections as well. There are many things that changed the climate.

In short I don't think it is a particularly good essay.

[lacrimosa1206]

Originally posted by SPY123:

Originally posted by Tiggy:

Nobody really cares anymore. Just stop playing the game if you're so against the game.

based on reddit there are still people who care about this

It's reddit, what do you expect xD
These Americans and English-speaking Koreans on reddit should all come to Korea
They'd make wonderful Korean drama actors with all their sentimentalities

Oops I'm an English-speaking Korean too, jokes on me xD

[Ryo]

Originally posted by lacrimosa1206:

Originally posted by SPY123:

based on reddit there are still people who care about this

It's reddit, what do you expect xD
These Americans and English-speaking Koreans on reddit should all come to Korea
They'd make wonderful Korean drama actors with all their sentimentalities

Oops I'm an English-speaking Korean too, jokes on me xD

Ah well those "Koreans" who where calling people, what was their words again?
https://preview.redd.it/count-the-degenerates-with-don-quixote-v0-7edhlxn5w5eb1.png?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=42d5e6f8425074da40410d39fa2842d8555e225e

ah right "Majority Yankee bastards all basic potato chip popping f**** who grew on f**** US public education" (their words not mines) at DCinsides should move to the US to educate the US Koreans then?

[lacrimosa1206]

Originally posted by Ryo:

Originally posted by lacrimosa1206:

It's reddit, what do you expect xD
These Americans and English-speaking Koreans on reddit should all come to Korea
They'd make wonderful Korean drama actors with all their sentimentalities

Oops I'm an English-speaking Korean too, jokes on me xD

Ah well those "Koreans" who where calling people, what was their words again?
https://preview.redd.it/count-the-degenerates-with-don-quixote-v0-7edhlxn5w5eb1.png?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=42d5e6f8425074da40410d39fa2842d8555e225e

ah right "Majority Yankee bastards all basic potato chip popping f**** who grew on f**** US public education" (their words not mines) at DCinsides should move to the US to educate the US Koreans then?

Why are you so angry? Maybe you should chill out a little, or get therapy if you can't control your outbursts.

And yes, we can try that, let's do exchange programmes. You can send yours, and we can send you ours. And then we can make hybrid creatures to rule the world :D

[Ryo]

Aw don't worry, I wasn't angry, I just felt like pointing out the two-faced victim attitude of a bunch of hypocrites is all.

[【Silver】]

Originally posted by Rookery:

At least the incels apparently cared about the game. Most of the negative review bombing now is coming from accounts with 1-2 hours of time played and still hasn't dropped the review % by more than 1. The incels had it down to sub 60% recent, and the game had record engagement post-patch.

Makes it pretty obvious who is should be listened to in this.

I'm... Very confused by the contradictions of your post here...

Regardless of the reasons at this point, what vague and unanswering responses we've received from official sources already provide a major issue for the product and company. We may not see the outcome of this whole mess for a few months however, and it may even resurface in a more damaging way. I want the company to be successful considering all they've done, but I also wish they'd stay fair & respectable...

[lacrimosa1206]

Originally posted by Ryo:

Aw don't worry, I wasn't angry, I just felt like pointing out the two-faced victim attitude of a bunch of hypocrites is all.

All good, as long as you're not a triggered Redditer then I'll listen to whatever you say :D

[Ryo]

Originally posted by lacrimosa1206:

Originally posted by Ryo:

Aw don't worry, I wasn't angry, I just felt like pointing out the two-faced victim attitude of a bunch of hypocrites is all.

All good, as long as you're not a triggered Redditer then I'll listen to whatever you say :D

Ah well, no risk of that happening, I don't even own a reddit account nor write on reddit. I also don't really crave attention or anything so you do you, wasn't my intention to attract anybody's views, I don't crave validation from anyone.

It's just that the subject was getting a bit loaded, I wanted to bring up the fact that the reason this was, and still is a subject is because people from DCinside actively are insulting redditors, acting high and mighty, and even mentioned something about "turning foreigners views to their own" which, wew, backfired spectacularly, critical thinking, freedom of speech and all that mumbojumbo you know, westerners aren't really fond of "following the pack".

So yeah, just wanted to bring that up since it was relevant. But if nobody's interested in what I got to say that's fine, I don't really care.

[panvich]

has anyone heard anyone talking about the bomb at the genshin festival before the doc? that was news to me

[lacrimosa1206]

Originally posted by Ryo:

Originally posted by lacrimosa1206:

All good, as long as you're not a triggered Redditer then I'll listen to whatever you say :D

Ah well, no risk of that happening, I don't even own a reddit account nor write on reddit. I also don't really crave attention or anything so you do you, wasn't my intention to attract anybody's views, I don't crave validation from anyone.

It's just that the subject was getting a bit loaded, I wanted to bring up the fact that the reason this was, and still is a subject is because people from DCinside actively are insulting redditors, acting high and mighty, and even mentioned something about "turning foreigners views to their own" which, wew, backfired spectacularly, critical thinking, freedom of speech and all that mumbojumbo you know, westerners aren't really fond of "following the pack".

So yeah, just wanted to bring that up since it was relevant. But if nobody's interested in what I got to say that's fine, I don't really care.

I mean that's nothing new, doesn't everyone know that DCInside is a bunch of racist Koreans living in an echo chamber and redditors are a bunch of sentimental hypocrites who look down on ESL clowns? :D Meanwhile there are people like me, yet another clown who can't find a better use of his time instead of trolling on Steam,

and you, a sad liar who says he's not interested in validation but can't stop replying xD

I believe in pointing out flaws in oneself before pointing out flaws in others. :D

[Ryo]

Originally posted by lacrimosa1206:

and you, a sad liar who says he's not interested in validation but can't stop replying xD

I believe in pointing out flaws in oneself before pointing out flaws in others. :D

Wew, and that comes from a person who was accusing me of emotionally charging my responses earlier, talk about a pot calling the kettle black amarite?

I don't think I'll get anything constructive out of this discussion, have a good one :) I've made my point.