is this game pay-to-win?

[incognito00]

Just asking before I try it out, don't want to put time into learning the tutorial and getting invested just to realize that I can't progress past a certain point without spending fifty bucks on micro-transactions.

[【Silver】]

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There's also Library of Ruina, the more immediate sequel. This one is more like expanded universe.

story-wise should I play Library of Ruina before this game?

It would be very much worth your while if you're here for the game's story elements.
Library of Ruina's a direct sequel to Lobotomy Corporation, while this is somewhat divergent of the aftermath of both games. It's less connected to the main cast, but you'll have much more information going in from the other game's experience.

[Dryspace]

Do you even know --- truly know --- what "Pay to Win/P2W" really is???

[Big Mistake]

one day as gaming historians contemplate the history of gacha, "is this pay2win" will be considered both the greatest and dumbest philosophical question of its niche

dumb pretention aside, as in all gacha games the more complete of a roster you have the easier content will be, and while there aren't many resources to manage the recent addition of a level cap boost and the upcoming addition of uptie 4, mean these resources are under a heavier drain so naturally being able to do things like refill is going to allow you to progress much quicker

on the upside, PM has not been especially stingy with resources in comparison to any other gacha I've played. while that dynamic is changing with time as more ♥♥♥♥ is added and as a result there are more things you may want to spend EGO shards on, it doesn't take especially long to save up pulls or upgrade materials. rates are okay, pity is weird, but lunacy comes at a decent enough pace that you're not grinding a year to get a single ID you like as f2p. (note that the game will funnel you very hard towards buying the BP though)

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There's also Library of Ruina, the more immediate sequel. This one is more like expanded universe.

story-wise should I play Library of Ruina before this game?

Lob Corp and LoR both provide a lot of important context to understanding the world, but aren't strictly necessary to understand the story of Limbus. If you like Limbus it's worth taking a look to see if the gameplay of the others appeals to you. Note that they are rough in their own ways, PM's learned a lot since Lob Corp so going back can definitely be a bit rough.

[Livy]

Kinda with the gatcha. Basically PW2 with skipping ahead on grind, but no premium accessories or anything on top of it. Least not yet.

[Seraphicia]

If you pay you win our heart for support the game.

[Shevek]

Every gacha game is p2w by definition. Having said that, Limbus is as f2p friendly as you can get in a gacha. Without spending you will be totally fine.

[Kalder (Totally a Hobb)]

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There's also Library of Ruina, the more immediate sequel. This one is more like expanded universe.

story-wise should I play Library of Ruina before this game?

Limbussy is designed story-wise to be an easy entry point to PM's universe without spoiling much of Lobotomy Corp and Library of Ruina, major events are referenced in a way you wouldn't know they have to do with those games unless you played them before, I'd dare to say LC's future is the one that gets spoiled the most in chapter 1, but only the future, not the intricacies and story of the game itself, it'd be on the level of "oh yeah that guy changes clothes at the end of the movie" but the significance of that change or the events behind the change are never explained so it is little more than a footnote.

Unrelated, but if you really want to get into the universe with other released media like comics and web novels, I think the correct order is:

Lobotomy Corp. - game > Wonderlab - short web comic > Distortion Detective - short web novel/Library of Ruina - game (any order) > Leviathan - comic

I haven't read Leviathan yet.

But that's just me being unnecessarily nerdy

[A Wispy Willy]

Distortion Detective and Ruina are interchangeable. They take place at the same time.

[solaariel]

I've heard from other people that the game is very generous by gacha standards, but this being my first gacha I can't really compare. All I know is that having been playing the game from close to launch and having only bought the season 1 battle pass (about £10) I finished that season with literally everything. The brief period I was F2P wasn't particularly stingy, and the price is low for those who do choose to spend money.

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There's also Library of Ruina, the more immediate sequel. This one is more like expanded universe.

story-wise should I play Library of Ruina before this game?

Limbus is a spin-off, so by skipping Ruina all you are missing out on is some world building. Plus the protagonist of Limbus has amnesia so they need the setting explained to them just like the player.

Having said that if you do enjoy Limbus then I highly recommend checking out Ruina, as Limbus's combat system is a modified version of Ruina's.

I'd probably play Ruina at the same time as Limbus instead of before. Ruina is a long game, and you don't want to miss out on free stuff from dailies and updates in Limbus while playing Ruina.

The Translation in Ruina is also a lot better than Lobotomy was at launch.

[Yerc2]

In terms of Gameplay, you can complete all of it without spending money. Although you may be stuck grinding for weeks at a time.

In terms of character collecting, you won't max everyone out. Since this game is relatively stingy with free currency. You very likely won't be able to obtain 1 copy of each character as a FTP player either, let alone their EGOs as well.

If you only want to focus on one or two characters, you probably won't feel pressured to spend.
But your mileage may vary~

[Aumires]

Absolutely not.

You can get everything in the game through the character tokens, which yes, you get by pulling... and the boxes you get.

Free season pass gets you 1 box per day once maxed, which is very easy to do. While this sounds as not much as 400 is for one 000 character or EGO, you get a lot of those through the pass itself and weekly mirror dungeon (currently 15 per week of a specific character) and, of course, pulling in the gachas.

One box is 1-3 tokens btw, with a 50% estimate of 2 per box.

A lot of free currency and rolls are given out usually.

Everything, again, is obtainable. This includes the PAID Season Pass stuff, but you got to wait until the next season, then it goes to Extraction, the token exchange. The only thing you got to wait two seasons for are the Event ID/EGOs.

Rising units is very easy and there isn't any requirement or system that requires dupes. You just get what you pull. EGOs are TAKEN OUT of the gacha list when obtained.

Mind you, the game is a bit harder than your usual gacha rpg. This might give you an impression that you require the best units. Do not worry, retrying any stage is for the most part free, so you can retry at your pace and get used to the clash system.

[G-sai]

Didnt spend anything but battle passes. Got like 95% of everything in the game. Very much friendly for gacha.

For the same investment you get a cheese pie and ♥♥♥♥ you in genshin impact. genshin is too childish and I'm terribly tired of it, so I'm here.

[Yuyukari]

my personal opinion regarding Limbus Company as a f2p gacha game, i might be bias because i love project moon, but i also have played quite the numbers of gacha game for almost a decade at this point, both as f2p and also spender/whaler, i've tried many gacha game from f2p friendly like Arknights, crusader quest, guardian tales and the like, to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ money grubbing ♥♥♥♥♥♥ of a game like Genshin, Nikke, FGO, and the like, so take my point as you will

- it's PvE, it can have pretty sharp difficulty spike, but it's a project moon difficulty spike, so generally it's dumb but still doable and more often than not, pretty fair if you know what you doing
- the game has hard spark and soft spark system for it gacha (no real pity system tho)
- you can collect most character just by playing normally and farm material to spark a character without spending a dime
- the main content can be done with low rarity IDs/Characters (even base characters)
- high rarity character could help to ease the progress and much of the end game content, but technically it's completely viable to done it without as long as you know what you doing
- you can add friends to then able to access on their support characters, so if you manage to befriend a person with 100% collection rate (and trust me there are a lot), then you technically can borrow their unit to help you clear certain stage that you felt the need to use higher rarity characters that you unfortunately yet to pull/spark
- for a gacha game, it's really easy to level up your characters because Limbus Company only have you manage two kind of level up resource (EXP tickets for leveling, and tread for uptying/limit break a character), compared to other gacha where you are expected to juggle bunch of different resource to min max different character, so there aren't much incentive to buy unnecessary cash shop pack for material
- the dev basically give player freebies every so often, so you can safe those free premium currency for when a character rate up caught your interest
- the game (as of now), doesn't have any skin shop (and probably will never be, because how the game structured the characters different identities as their main gacha selling point)

so is Limbus Company a P2W? not necessarily, no
it's a F2P PvE game and function as such to implement micro-transactions such as cash shop and battle pass, but at the same time the game is fully playable to endgame without the need to spend a cent, and if you didn't plan to get all IDs/characters as the been released right away, then there even less incentives to spend on premium currency
no paywall that block story progression or any main content for that matter, every single in game unit is technically obtainable without the need to gacha

if you need to use the friends support system
feel free to add me in game, i've all the characters at max level
in-game ID: G275259935

[Dying ArchDevil]

I don't think people should apply the phrase "pay to win" to a fully PvE game.

[76561199403730936]

It’s definitely can be f2p. Besides, there is a friend system that you can borrow characters from another person you’re friend with so don’t feel top bad of you don’t pull the characters you like (for me I missed 3 banners in a row).