tips for blooming battle

[Glow in the DAARRRKKKKKK]

im not sure what im missing but i have been stuck on this battle for weeks ive tried every combination of egos and characters and nobody is doing any damage and im dead by turn 3 if not turn 5 any tips would be excellent.

[teamol]

read the enemy passives/skills

[Glow in the DAARRRKKKKKK]

been doing that am i misunderstanding something also i havent fulfilled certain conditions to unlock all the info

[teamol]

which boss are you exactly fighting against though
what's your party members/egos
and what're their levels and upties?

[Glow in the DAARRRKKKKKK]

everything is lvl 3 uptie and lvl 30 im using ones that use slash damage and resist blunt nad penetration mostly dongbeak i cant even make it to the 3rd round without loosing a character or 2

[jotace]

not sure all of this is correct since its mainly from my own experience against her(sorry for any grammar mistakes)
tl;dr at the bottom

try using ids with high damage and average clashing power or even some with high hp and defenses to tank some attacks in case your sinners arent good at clashing against it

you dont need all of those but there are some i highly recommend: shi/w corp/cinq association don, r corp heathcliff, red sheet/n corp sinclair, k corp/tingtang/kurokumo hong lu, spicebush yi sang, g corp/seven association outis, lccb/liu ishmael (technically r corp ishmael too but she's way better at uptie 4 so if you dont have it yet then dont bother using her), g corp gregor, rhino meursault (mostly because chains of others is busted), lobotomy remnants/n corp faust

your main strategy here should be to avoid doing clashes if you are less than favored against and not losing clashes against her evade to not get the bloom status effect, when you are doing free hits on her think about getting ego resources instead of just using your strongest skills because you're gonna need them later

once she reaches her second phase (background change) she will summon the small tree things idk what they're called but try getting at least 1 sinner to attack each one of them and IF you really need to you can use an aoe ego, be really careful to not get hit and use good clashing skills against the trees because the last thing you want is one of your sinners to get trapped on them, by 2 turns you shoud've already cleared out the small trees and now you can go back to attacking her normally

after some time she will use 3 blocks and 1 skill, that skill will apply the duel effect or whatever is called, basically she will immobilize all of your sinners except for the one that clashed against this skill, your main priority here should be getting a sinner who can use egos for atleast 2 turns to make sure that nothing goes wrong, when you are in the duel phase you have to make her lose clashes so that she gets the bloom effect and gets staggered before she uses the big aoe attack that kills everyone, egos are really good here because theres basically no way to lose against her using an ego but normal skills are fine too

after that she'll get staggered and thats basically the whole fight, if she doesnt die just keep repeating the same process and killing the trees,

tl;dr

take your time with this fight, bring good clashing ids, use egos while on her duel phase, focus on the trees she summons and pay attention to your clashes

[Neomare]

Originally posted by Glow in the DAARRRKKKKKK:

im not sure what im missing but i have been stuck on this battle for weeks ive tried every combination of egos and characters and nobody is doing any damage and im dead by turn 3 if not turn 5 any tips would be excellent.

Blooming battle Dongbeak? I will assume it is 4-48 Bud.

The key to this fight in my opinion is to try to avoid your characters getting to 5 bloom.

You will do that by making sure you can win the clashes. Do not worry as much about damage types as to make sure to bring people who can win the clashes without using the EGOs so the first couple of round go smoothly.

If you can bring both good damage types and good clashes thats great though.

As for prioritization i prioritized trying to win clashes against "Pungent Fragrance". it is an aoe putting a lot of bloom on your group... fight will be super easy if you can guaranty that.

If some of your people do get the bloom keep going, learn the fight, it is not the end of the world but it will be harder. I managed to win without anyone getting to 5 bloom though. First couple of turns are tricky but once you have some resources for EGO's it is easy.


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anyhow:

if you properly clash against her you should be able to transition into the 2nd part of the fight with ease.

read on if you also want tips how to deal with the duel thing she will do.



After a bit Dongbaek will cast a skill called "Must Cover with Dirt" whoever clashes with that will be "dueling" her. That means she will grab everyone else onto her side (make them all bloom automatically no way to stop this) and it will be 1 VS 1 fight. the dueling person is immune to this auto bloom.

She will proceed to cast an ability "Withering Flower" in the next 2 turns. It is mandatory to win both this clashes to stagger her otherwise she casts an ability which for me at least it was imposible to recover from.


If you do this correctly your people get free while she is staggered and it should be smooth ride from there.

My advice here is to duel with a person with as much sanity as possible + have enough resources for them to be able to cast their Zayin EGO twice.

This will ensure you have huge chance of sucess to win both clashes and its smooth sailing from there.


There is one thing that can go wrong here so if it happens you know about it. If you stagger her on the turn she does cover with dirt the duel still happens and she will not cast first withering flower.. which means she will not get staggered from 2 clash loses since there is only 1 clash which means she will cast her deadly aoe which is probably a loss.

Happened to me by accident on my 2nd try. It was pure bad luck. Easily took her down on my third one. Just keep track of her stagger bar and defend instead of attacking with your group if she is close to stagger when casting Cover with Dirt.


If you need any more help please ask I will be happy to answer.

Cheers!

[Neomare]

Originally posted by jotace:

not sure all of this is correct since its mainly from my own experience against her(sorry for any grammar mistakes)
tl;dr at the bottom

try using ids with high damage and average clashing power or even some with high hp and defenses to tank some attacks in case your sinners arent good at clashing against it

you dont need all of those but there are some i highly recommend: shi/w corp/cinq association don, r corp heathcliff, red sheet/n corp sinclair, k corp/tingtang/kurokumo hong lu, spicebush yi sang, g corp/seven association outis, lccb/liu ishmael (technically r corp ishmael too but she's way better at uptie 4 so if you dont have it yet then dont bother using her), g corp gregor, rhino meursault (mostly because chains of others is busted), lobotomy remnants/n corp faust

your main strategy here should be to avoid doing clashes if you are less than favored against and not losing clashes against her evade to not get the bloom status effect, when you are doing free hits on her think about getting ego resources instead of just using your strongest skills because you're gonna need them later

once she reaches her second phase (background change) she will summon the small tree things idk what they're called but try getting at least 1 sinner to attack each one of them and IF you really need to you can use an aoe ego, be really careful to not get hit and use good clashing skills against the trees because the last thing you want is one of your sinners to get trapped on them, by 2 turns you shoud've already cleared out the small trees and now you can go back to attacking her normally

after some time she will use 3 blocks and 1 skill, that skill will apply the duel effect or whatever is called, basically she will immobilize all of your sinners except for the one that clashed against this skill, your main priority here should be getting a sinner who can use egos for atleast 2 turns to make sure that nothing goes wrong, when you are in the duel phase you have to make her lose clashes so that she gets the bloom effect and gets staggered before she uses the big aoe attack that kills everyone, egos are really good here because theres basically no way to lose against her using an ego but normal skills are fine too

after that she'll get staggered and thats basically the whole fight, if she doesnt die just keep repeating the same process and killing the trees,

tl;dr

take your time with this fight, bring good clashing ids, use egos while on her duel phase, focus on the trees she summons and pay attention to your clashes

Its alright with plenty of good points but a litle inconsistent :). Hope you do not mind me correcting some of it.

I might also be wrong so feel free to prove me wrong I am happy to learn :).

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1st thing I do not agree with:

Originally posted by jotace:

"try using ids with high damage and average clashing power"

This is incorect, you want to use people with high clashing power and damage is less important.

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1st thing i strongly agree on:

TDLR is really good though:

Originally posted by jotace:

"tl;dr

take your time with this fight, bring good clashing ids, use egos while on her duel phase, focus on the trees she summons and pay attention to your clashes"

so you basically corrected yourself. Good clashing Ids are the key here. The rest also stands.

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2nd thing I do not agree with:

Originally posted by jotace:

"your main strategy here should be to avoid doing clashes if you are less than favored against and not losing clashes against her evade to not get the bloom status effect"

Although I agree that you should not clash unless you are favored or more I would not consider this a good main strategy advice.


I think your main strategy should be to clash and win against "Pungent Fragrance"
This is an aoe attacking 3 people and causing 4 bloom to each unless somebody wins a clash against it.


If your group is weak and you do not have favored or above I would say try neutral on first round and restart if it fails.

on following rounds if you still do not have favored or above use an EGO for it.

HOWEVER

Originally posted by jotace:

when you are in the duel phase you have to make her lose clashes so that she gets the bloom effect and gets staggered before she uses the big aoe attack that kills everyone, egos are really good here because theres basically no way to lose against her using an ego but normal skills are fine too

This I agree 100%.


Like jotace said this is crucial, I personally save 2 EGOs for this to maximize sucess. This AOE cant go of or you will most probably lose.. unless she was so close to dying you can finish her of the next round with your duelist. Unlikely. I did most of my damage during the round she was staggered.


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Good luck!

[A Wispy Willy]

Haven't seen anyone mention it, but you should also make killing off the trees she summons a priority. They can boost her AoE.

[Glow in the DAARRRKKKKKK]

i may just be "limbad" at this game was pretty decent at library and lobotomy but whew this game is rough.

[Glow in the DAARRRKKKKKK]

should i not bring yi sang into this battle he usually gets killed immediately like 2 turns maybe 3 hes dead im using the salsa lol or salso whatever the one that does slash damage and he just drops immediately

[Moyai]

Originally posted by Glow in the DAARRRKKKKKK:

should i not bring yi sang into this battle he usually gets killed immediately like 2 turns maybe 3 hes dead im using the salsa lol or salso whatever the one that does slash damage and he just drops immediately

Blade Lineage Salsu Yi Sang is a bad ID before uptie 4 because of how poor the coin power on skill 2 and 3 is (each having only +1 power), resulting in very weak clash power overall. Try looking for another identity with better clash power, such as Effloresced E.G.O::Spicebush Yi Sang, or just use a different sinner with an ID more suited for clashing.

[Neomare]

Originally posted by Glow in the DAARRRKKKKKK:

i may just be "limbad" at this game was pretty decent at library and lobotomy but whew this game is rough.

This is the only fight in the whole game that gave me some trouble. Took me 4 tries I think.

But I am kind of a a veteran of this kind of games and I have amazing clashing IDs I just got a bit unlucky though. Looking at this fight I can imagine that somebody who does not have top tier IDs like some people are suggesting will struggle.


Do not worry. Once you get trough this one the game gets easier again. Try to bring some people which will have at least favorite to clash against her "Pungent Fragrance" and you should probably be fine.


What levels are your people btw? Do you have any strong clashing ID's? My advice would be to go in and out of the fight and check different IDs clash chances until you find the people who can have minimum neutral but hopefully favorite on 0 SP against her abilities.

First 2 turns will be the key once you get some SP it should be easier.

[Neomare]

Originally posted by A Wispy Willy:

Haven't seen anyone mention it, but you should also make killing off the trees she summons a priority. They can boost her AoE.

True. sounded like the OP does not get that far before starting to lose people though. I mostly focused on how important it is to deal with Pungent Fragrance properly to even get further in the fight.

[Nut]

Originally posted by Glow in the DAARRRKKKKKK:

should i not bring yi sang into this battle he usually gets killed immediately like 2 turns maybe 3 hes dead im using the salsa lol or salso whatever the one that does slash damage and he just drops immediately

If you do bring Blade Lineage Yi Sang, you're better off using him to attack the plants or uncontested attacks, or if you really have to, the weaker (typically last skills) of dongbaek.

[Glow in the DAARRRKKKKKK]

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