Limbus Company

Limbus Company

P2W & Roadmap
0 free pulls per month - now
12 free pulls per month - after next week changes

Players unable to gather 400 resources for 000/EGO till the end of the season unless money spent (according to those who made calculations).


Meanwhile Roadmap - new banners/EGOs each 2 weeks.


So devs made this game not to be single player style and it is not - it has no content for it. 3 chapters and you can rest for a year. Understandable.

But why did they make it worst gacha ever then?
20-30 pulls per month is stingy even by gacha standards. And don't misinterpret starting honeymoon period and tickets for awful launch with tons of bugs for a forever thing. Looking at replenishable currency and tickers. We have 12, a lot of dupes and season threads useless without paying money for... what exactly? That's not even P2W, that's some other level. There is nothing to win, but there is nothing to play also for a P2P?


The more I typed, the further it went. WTF the game even is about?
It's awful for gacha enjoyers who like to gamble and check their luck. Both because of currency and low amount of things to roll for and high amount of dupes.
It's awful for single player games enjoyers who like to immerse in a nice written world and completed story, interesting quests etc. It has content for a day or several and no interesting repeatable one. It's obviously made to grab cash (no gachas are made with other purpose), but... oh well.
Last edited by lamanz777; Mar 9, 2023 @ 4:38pm
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MotivatedBoi Mar 9, 2023 @ 4:53pm 
Game has released not that long ago and is always subject to change, try and give it some time. Or would you like to say that every other gacha game was perfect from the launch?
Reptiloid Mar 9, 2023 @ 5:04pm 
Originally posted by MotivatedBoi:
Game has released not that long ago and is always subject to change, try and give it some time. Or would you like to say that every other gacha game was perfect from the launch?

He has a valid point nevertheless. Among other PM's projects, this came out most raw imo. Rn it is a big donate button for PM fans, as there is neither enough in-game currency generaion to drag a lot f2p, not enough unlockable content to whale on. I think they should've labled everything until patch of 16th marhc as early access or smth.
UnknownPlayer Mar 9, 2023 @ 5:18pm 
the game can be beat without spending money and all content can be beat with base sinner 0 the youtuber popo makes great video about that.

granted is does take a lot of luck to do this.
Last edited by UnknownPlayer; Mar 9, 2023 @ 5:19pm
MotivatedBoi Mar 9, 2023 @ 5:26pm 
Originally posted by Reptiloid:
He has a valid point nevertheless. Among other PM's projects, this came out most raw imo. Rn it is a big donate button for PM fans, as there is neither enough in-game currency generaion to drag a lot f2p, not enough unlockable content to whale on. I think they should've labled everything until patch of 16th marhc as early access or smth.

Was writing a more calm and elaborate message for a good 15 minutes before Steam app decided to screw me over. :LetiHeart::LetiHeart::LetiHeart::LetiHeart: it, doing the short one.

Lack of content I agree on, but not on lack of F2P. Unlike other gachas I've played this one didn't give me the feeling of "want to get good - pay up" as of now. How it'll be in the future - we'll see. Same goes for the game being "P2W".

Now if you excuse me, I need to murder someone.
*Put on Red Shoes and runs away*
Last edited by MotivatedBoi; Mar 9, 2023 @ 5:34pm
Arnotts Mar 9, 2023 @ 5:27pm 
"blah,blah,blah stingy."
that amount of pulls is pretty typical for gatcha as most of your pulls come from events which we haven't had any yet though we have had a bunch of pulls come in through the mail.
calling the game p2w is pretty stupid considering someone already beat the game was base ids and severely underleveled, cool throwaway account btw
Reptiloid Mar 9, 2023 @ 5:40pm 
Originally posted by MotivatedBoi:
Originally posted by Reptiloid:
He has a valid point nevertheless. Among other PM's projects, this came out most raw imo. Rn it is a big donate button for PM fans, as there is neither enough in-game currency generaion to drag a lot f2p, not enough unlockable content to whale on. I think they should've labled everything until patch of 16th marhc as early access or smth.

Was writing a more calm and elaborate message for a good 15 minutes before Steam app decided to screw me over. :LetiHeart::LetiHeart::LetiHeart::LetiHeart: it, doing the short one.

Lack of content I agree on, but not on lack of F2P. Unlike other gachas I've played this one didn't give me the feeling of "want to get good - pay up" as of now. How it'll be in the future - we'll see. Same goes for the game being "P2W".

Now if you excuse me, I need to murder someone.
*Put on Red Shoes and runs away*

Overdramatic.

Idk how to compare to other gachas, I haven't played much, but I think daily login bonus lunacy should be included at least. It's a minimum and considered as a courtesy imo. If they add like a 4th guaranteed pull a month, provided you do the daily stuff and clean up mirror dungeons, will make the game more f2p friendly and will shut up everyone who complains. Or at least reduce/remove the shard whipe. A smol change to make game better for everyone.

The content issue is within the root of all of it anyway.
Last edited by Reptiloid; Mar 9, 2023 @ 5:42pm
MotivatedBoi Mar 9, 2023 @ 5:59pm 
Originally posted by Reptiloid:
Overdramatic.

Idk how to compare to other gachas, I haven't played much, but I think daily login bonus lunacy should be included at least. It's a minimum and considered as a courtesy imo. If they add like a 4th guaranteed pull a month, provided you do the daily stuff and clean up mirror dungeons, will make the game more f2p friendly and will shut up everyone who complains. Or at least reduce/remove the shard whipe. A smol change to make game better for everyone.

*puts Red Shoes off*

Ahem.
And the best way to begin a response in Reptiloid's opinion is:
a) Respond to and debunk the stated arguments
b) Provide/subvert arguments to your own opinion
c) Try to shame the person you're talking to over something not related to the topic

As I've said: we'll see about it in the future. I'm not PT. You're not PT. No one is PT. No one knows what will happen next month, or week, or even day. Maybe there will be new ways to get Lunacy. Maybe there won't. The best one can do right now is be patient and wait for the changes to come. Sure, we can whine about how "game bad, PM greedy", but there's already enough of that going around, isn't it?

Ah yes, almost forgot:
*puts Red Shoes on someone else and walks away whistling*
Last edited by MotivatedBoi; Mar 9, 2023 @ 6:09pm
Nope Mar 9, 2023 @ 6:04pm 
Originally posted by Reptiloid:
Originally posted by MotivatedBoi:

Was writing a more calm and elaborate message for a good 15 minutes before Steam app decided to screw me over. :LetiHeart::LetiHeart::LetiHeart::LetiHeart: it, doing the short one.

Lack of content I agree on, but not on lack of F2P. Unlike other gachas I've played this one didn't give me the feeling of "want to get good - pay up" as of now. How it'll be in the future - we'll see. Same goes for the game being "P2W".

Now if you excuse me, I need to murder someone.
*Put on Red Shoes and runs away*

Overdramatic.

Idk how to compare to other gachas, I haven't played much, but I think daily login bonus lunacy should be included at least. It's a minimum and considered as a courtesy imo. If they add like a 4th guaranteed pull a month, provided you do the daily stuff and clean up mirror dungeons, will make the game more f2p friendly and will shut up everyone who complains. Or at least reduce/remove the shard whipe. A smol change to make game better for everyone.

The content issue is within the root of all of it anyway.
compared to most that come with quality and not being mobage
This base amount PM give at start is higher after 16th update obviously lol. Not say that OP is wrong, but he’s not all right either, as most of them more freemium farm usually lack qualities and more predatory, like how most like to say average gacha but don’t want to be specific, hook you up fast with their generosity then constantly push out powercreep units one after another, that’s when you see the facade fall off

I wouldn’t say PM won’t become like that since biweekly banner with a bit of lack of stable source of Lunacy (again aside Mirror dungeon next week) is a bit troublesome at the moment. Granted that Egoshard can be exchanged for everything, plus that they build this game more on team building, strong synergy are better than strong unit
That said, PM are willing to listen unlike pretty much most, thing might change long run but in the end I want them to do a high budget Distortion Detective game :lunar2019piginablanket:
A Wispy Willy Mar 9, 2023 @ 6:18pm 
Originally posted by lamanz777:
Players unable to gather 400 resources for 000/EGO till the end of the season unless money spent (according to those who made calculations).
Sounds like all the calculations you looked at didn't work in the BP then.
1632189633 Mar 9, 2023 @ 6:24pm 
it's not p2w though because I clear the game with standard skin.
RedCobra Mar 9, 2023 @ 6:41pm 
sound like a bot here, i play 2 account and have no problem at all. you can even re roll for freaking 1 minute if you not satisfied on the phone. dear lord. instant re roll exist and you not using that ? the rate also great. to id. and base unit strong for early game with free limit break.

skill issue. i bet you not using the shard for limit breaking and that guy how don't want to read or learn or pay attentions to game mechanics.

we even get free guranted 3 star tikets + many free lunacy, how greeedy are you ?

just wait the next update they already said to bring lunacy farming area.
Last edited by RedCobra; Mar 9, 2023 @ 6:57pm
Alex Darkcrowne Mar 9, 2023 @ 6:42pm 
This is PMoon's first gacha, and it shows. I love their games to bits even though I suck at management sims and, consequently, never finished LCorp, but they kinda faceplanted on the landing for the launch.

UI needs work: it's hard to figure out comps since the affinities are well-kept-track-of.
Descriptions need to be a bit clearer, especially on moves that alter Stagger Threshold.
Charge sucks as is and needs buffing.
Game needs some optimisation tweaks, especially with E.G.O.s.
Mirror Dungeon rewards without weekly bonus are terrible.

They are, however, listening intently and working fast to address things.
El Mariachi too strong despite Mirror Dungeon not being available? Nerfed in like 2 days.
Status effects not working? Fixed immediately alongside a release of 2 new IDs.

Lack of Lunacy is being addressed in the 3/16 patch, which makes Mirror Dungeons give 150 Lunacy when cleared with the bonus.
That totals to 450 Lunacy every week, on top of anything given from new story content, which I think is fine.
Lack of Thread and XP is also being addressed in the same patch, with new dungeons to do for both those resources.

I would consider it stingy, if not for the fact that this game isn't P2W AT ALL.
People have cleared Ch. 3 with nothing but base IDs and base E.G.O.s.

In fact, looking at a lot of the 000s you can gacha for, they're actually disadvantaged in Ch. 3 (Weak to Blunt, lots of Blunt and Pierce damage).
Both Blade Lineage Salsu are weak to PIERCE, and primarily deal Slash damage.
Tingtang Hong Lu has it worse, because he's weak to BLUNT, which is more common in Ch. 3. G Corp Manager Corporal Gregor has the same issues.
R Corp 4th Pack Rabbit Heathcliff runs out of ammo too fast and doesn't do Blunt damage, while his Basic ID will absolutely carry teams in Ch. 3 if given the chance.
Kurokumo Wakashu Ryoshu is weak to Slash, so she does alright, but some enemies get stronger if you bleed them, so she loses out a bit. Ditto for Kurokumo Henchwoman Rodion.
WARP Corp Cleanup Agents fare well, but Charge has its own issues.
Ratohou Mar 9, 2023 @ 6:54pm 
well, i think the majority of players dont understant the PTW argument, obvious, you can clear the chap 3 with only 0s, but this dont make up for the gatcha trying to be stingy.
arknights give you a lot of draws and resources so you can draw and get a lot of different characters, and you can play the entire game only using free-to-play units. fate/go is one of the stingiest gatchas ever to exist but you can clear the entire game, even the challenges with 3 stars characters, it is not because you can complete a game with basic units that dont make it stingy, you can obvious claim that its not PTW, but it is in fact very stingy anyways.
MotivatedBoi Mar 9, 2023 @ 7:03pm 
Originally posted by Ratohou:
well, i think the majority of players dont understant the PTW argument, obvious, you can clear the chap 3 with only 0s, but this dont make up for the gatcha trying to be stingy.
arknights give you a lot of draws and resources so you can draw and get a lot of different characters, and you can play the entire game only using free-to-play units. fate/go is one of the stingiest gatchas ever to exist but you can clear the entire game, even the challenges with 3 stars characters, it is not because you can complete a game with basic units that dont make it stingy, you can obvious claim that its not PTW, but it is in fact very stingy anyways.

Arknights doesn't give you a way to get powerful operators without rolling. FGO doesn't include limited banner characters into basic banner. This game does both.

This discussion can go on and on, really. This is getting tiring though...
Ratohou Mar 9, 2023 @ 7:18pm 
Originally posted by MotivatedBoi:

Arknights doesn't give you a way to get powerful operators without rolling. FGO doesn't include limited banner characters into basic banner. This game does both.

This discussion can go on and on, really. This is getting tiring though...

this games gives crates that can be used to get a character, if you take more or less 250 of them, Arknights give you draws so you can spark someone that you like in a future event (300 draws), and how to you say that limbus include limited banner characters into basic banner?, every gatcha game does that with random new banners, but every gatcha game in the future place limited characters banners, and i can guarantee to you that its going to happen a time or another in limbus.
its a thing to be discussed to the developers see that there can make the game more friendly to those that are free-to-play, i really cant understant you point.
I think the minimum to have is a pity system, that guarante a random 000s every x draws.
and i defend all of this not even being a free-to-play player, i already placed a considerable amount in the game, because i really want to support project moon.
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