Mortal Kombat 1

Mortal Kombat 1

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Nuriyokan Sep 16, 2023 @ 11:03pm
The most beautiful thing about this game is that you can't button mash lol !
You have to actually know what you are doing just like streetfighter or tekken . You can't just mash randomly and get one hit kb's lol . This game is great ! God its so good !
Originally posted by Mike:
This is kind of the problem with the "FGC" as each part thinks their game is some how superior and takes more skill, when 99% of these arguments boil down to personal likes and preferences.

I'm no MK stan but its annoying to see it always being the punching bag of the FGC when now 99% of the top FGs are made for casuals with things like modern controls, one button specials, comeback mechanics, or with games like Strive that took a very deep and complex franchise and turned it into anime Street fighter...etc.

MK1 not only backtracked on the casualization that MK11 pushed for but it made a MK game that was deep and fun to learn again and for that alone I respect NRS a lot for.

Just play what you like, and stop acting like one side is "superior" because you like or dislike certain gameplay systems/mechanics.

I will enjoy MK because imo it has the best characters and the visual/animation/hit feedback is always top notch, making my attacks feel impactful. Something anime fighters and SF has never made me feel so I will stick to what I prefer and not whine that one franchise is better then the other.
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Nuriyokan Sep 20, 2023 @ 9:51am 
Originally posted by Saya:
Originally posted by Yoni Zaria:


You really think dial-a-combos, the absolute noobiest combo system EVER, is ... better than SF's combo system ?

LMAO

#1 I never said the system was noobiest or bad or anything like that see if only you hadn't made assumptions . I talked about someone mashing 1 button. it's not hard to deal with a jab if you block and that's 100% facts .

Know what you're doing ? You just input your sequence with ZERO timing involved.

#2 I'm not sure if you're trying to convince me or yourself on this one because all you had to do was play the tutorial to know that you need to have timing otherwise combos will drop. It tells you and shows you how the timing of inputs changes how the opponent lands or how far back they get pushed. Someone skipped the tutorial i can see. humble yourself before making false statements .

SF needs links and actual timing mastery for combos.

#3 And so does every other fighting game name an MK game without links in them this statement is laughable its as if you don't actually play MK.

MK is so trash from this point of view, that you can't even jump 1, THEN confirm into a combo, you need to input your dial-a-noob combo before confirming the hit.

#4 Maybe you need to play the tutorial because they had you doing jump 1 into combos and into combo enders . " dial - a noob combo befoe confirming the hit " you do realize that when you hit confirm you aren't dialing the combo in . You're dropping it and using your eye on reaction to finish the same as you would in any other fighting game. You have to be trolling at this point. You gave yourself away but I'll still humor you.

There's a reason no one plays that game in japan : it's bad, and always has been.
#5 All you have to do is research ... the game is banned in japan silly. Mk as a whole is banned in some countries . Japan is one of them. You just look silly.

And let's not even talk about neutral / movement (ultra trash in MK), or the fact that MK is the only game where the frame data makes ZERO SENSE, since you can be +12 on hit, and still unable to combo with a 9f startup move afterwards. . .

#6 You don't even know what neutral is .... the fact that you said it's trash in MK.
Silly any experience fighting game player knows the neutral is on you as a player . Now if you want to get technical ... neutrtal is the space between the characters when neither character has an advantage . Oh my god did you just say the movement was trash ? Skill issues learn how to block dash next ! Frame data don't make sense to you ? Makes perfect sense to people who play fighting games . Maybe you should learn what frame data is because it makes perfect sense . If YOU PERSONALLY were plus 12 and couldn't follow up that's YOUR FAULT YOU'RE TOO SLOW . I DON'T HAVE THAT ISSUE . You can't follow up after being plus 12 ? Skill issue bro .

Fun game, but don't even compare MK to SF. It might sell more copies, but we all know that gameplay wise, SF completely destroys that pathetic stiff franchise
#7 You can compare fighting games since they're in the same genre . The comparison was that you can't mash buttons randomly and win in SF = Facts . Same with MK Facts . SF destroys MK ? That statement doesn't even make sense . Two games that have a legacy and franchise that both sells well. One destroy's the other ? If it destroyed it then how does it still exist ? How does a fictional game in a digital world destroy another ?

Your statements make no sense bro. You just don't like MK which is fine but you're not going to convince people that the game is bad only that you don't know what you're talking about . we can run sets in Mk11 or MK1 sometime if you want . Learn how to drop your ego and maybe you'll improve at fighting games .
You aren't a FG player but a MK player. Get a grip bro.
Yea ok continue to tell me how you're going to button mash on me bro . You're right you button mash and my combo doesn't work on you . Congrats you figure out life . LMFAO ya'll gotta come up with some better material . I know you're trolling but you could at least make it a little bit more funny. Come on bro i know you have better material than this .
usa423 Sep 20, 2023 @ 9:54am 
Wait till you play the trapped level, you will see about button mashing lol.
Nuriyokan Sep 20, 2023 @ 9:54am 
I WELCOME IT ALL ! PEOPLE ARE ON HERE TELLING ME THEY CAN MASH ON ME AND WAIT UNTIL I FIGHT A RAIDEN OR BARAKA PLAYER . BRO YALL DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND ITS HILARIOUS BUT CONTINUE ! " You aren't a FG player but a MK player " So...... you agree with the other people that you can mash in this game ? or any fighting game for that matter ? YOU HAVE TO BE TROLLING ..... IF NOT IT'S EVEN MORE HILARIOUS !
Nuriyokan Sep 20, 2023 @ 9:55am 
Originally posted by usa423:
Wait till you play the trapped level, you will see about button mashing lol.
man... ya'll are hilarious . " The trapped level " XD
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Nuriyokan Sep 20, 2023 @ 11:31am 
Originally posted by Pipoco:
wait until this kid goes against raiden and baraka on ranked xD
https://www.facebook.com/61551506037224/videos/pcb.122098800350050201/1027827841690843
Saya Sep 20, 2023 @ 11:43am 
Originally posted by Yoni Zaria:
Originally posted by Pipoco:
wait until this kid goes against raiden and baraka on ranked xD
https://www.facebook.com/61551506037224/videos/pcb.122098800350050201/1027827841690843
Typical MK player thinking he is good at fighting games while in fact he is a huge no name that never played anything else. Only MK is full of casual that don't know how to play at all. Outside of this game you won't do ♥♥♥♥.
Nuriyokan Sep 20, 2023 @ 11:51am 
Originally posted by Saya:
Originally posted by Yoni Zaria:
https://www.facebook.com/61551506037224/videos/pcb.122098800350050201/1027827841690843
Typical MK player thinking he is good at fighting games while in fact he is a huge no name that never played anything else. Only MK is full of casual that don't know how to play at all. Outside of this game you won't do ♥♥♥♥.
Cry harder you have a vac ban on record which means you CHEAT AT VIDEO GAMES . You're the last person who needs to be talking ! LMFAO I don't even need to say anything else Ya'll do it to yourselves . Imagine trying to trash talk me and not only being 100% wrong in your statements but also having a VAC ban on record which means you cheat at games . I'm supposed to think you're good at games but you're the type of player to cheat in them thus the VAC ban XD . STOP IT !
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Tr3m0r Sep 20, 2023 @ 12:12pm 
Originally posted by Yoni Zaria:
Originally posted by Saya:
Typical MK player thinking he is good at fighting games while in fact he is a huge no name that never played anything else. Only MK is full of casual that don't know how to play at all. Outside of this game you won't do ♥♥♥♥.
Cry harder you have a vac ban on record which means you CHEAT AT VIDEO GAMES . You're the last person who needs to be talking ! LMFAO I don't even need to say anything else Ya'll do it to yourselves . Imagine trying to trash talk me and not only being 100% wrong in your statements but also having a VAC ban on record which means you cheat at games . I'm supposed to think you're good at games but you're the type of player to cheat in them thus the VAC ban XD . STOP IT !

Why are you going so hard on this when you make a baited hot take to begin with? Of course there are opinions that are going to differ than yours. What you and most people that speak like this fail to realize is there are a ton of levels to fighting games that are worth their salt. Mortal Kombat is not now, nor ever, the deepest fighting system with the highest skill ceiling. That however doesn't mean that there aren't levels of the fighting system 99% of players will never reach. So you are really arguing semantics that are unwinnable. Higher levels of players can absolutely "press buttons" and do fairly well without knowing all the frame data. I have played fighting games my whole life and almost every single one I don't study and lab frame data over and over which is the ONLY WAY to not press buttons. Otherwise it's just a level of "feel" and limited skill set and that includes the combos.

SF, Tekken, and VF were all available during MK's rise to fame and are examples of games that have had incredibly difficult skill ceilings compared to mortal kombat. Again, this doesn't mean MK isn't a high level professionally played game but really outside of professionals we all are pressing buttons and somewhat living under varying levels of skill that all would be considered button mashers to any competent professional. Your assumptions over these posters and likely myself in the follow up response make so many presuppositions about one's character and deficits of character I find ironic considering you made this post which is nothing but flame bait that's already lit yet you are the one that continues to feel the burn from each reply.
Grampire Sep 20, 2023 @ 12:13pm 
At this point I'm pretty convinced Smash is a more competitively viable game than MK.
Nuriyokan Sep 20, 2023 @ 12:16pm 
I'm not entertaining any more trolls last guy got blocked . The video speaks for itself . I was told people could mash in this game . I told people that's not true, they threw insults . I uploaded video TO THE INDIVIDUALS TALKING TRASH . They were incorrect now you have people showing up saying " you wouldn't do anything in insert game here " . I'm done entertaining trolls .

The video speaks for itself. You can't BUTTON MASH ON SOMEONE WHO KNOWS HOW TO PROPERLY JAIL INTO COMBOS THAT'S 100% fact and you can't deny it. If you do you have more to learn .

Have a good day I'm going to LAB .
Nuriyokan Sep 20, 2023 @ 12:17pm 
Originally posted by Grampire:
At this point I'm pretty convinced Smash is a more competitively viable game than MK.
not you ... you didn't get blocked but the guy above.
Nuriyokan Sep 20, 2023 @ 12:17pm 
Originally posted by Grampire:
At this point I'm pretty convinced Smash is a more competitively viable game than MK.
This is simply a bad take but i can understand if you like smash more personally .
Nuriyokan Sep 20, 2023 @ 12:25pm 
Lastly I'll say this ... I don't put new people down . I don't trash talk people for no reason, but if you come on my post insulting me and making false statements .... I'll just post a video to show you that's not true. The guy i tagged along with several others had already started being rude. It's funny to me.

I can talk to people in a calm tone but if you're going to throw insults and say what i would or wouldn't do you're going to get fact checked hard.

" Typical MK player thinking he is good at fighting games while in fact he is a huge no name that never played anything else. Only MK is full of casual that don't know how to play at all. Outside of this game you won't do ♥♥♥♥. "

This right here ^ is so false . " Only Mk is full of casuals that don't know how to play at all. " This statement implies that pros for MK don't exist . The irony is that sonicFox is an MK PRO and has the world record for winning the most fighting game tournaments in history !

This ^ You're telling me I'm not allowed to show someone like this how wrong they are ? I'm the bad one for telling people like this I'm not entertaining them anymore ?
The FGC is WILD !
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Grampire Sep 20, 2023 @ 12:29pm 
MK has pretty much consistently rewarded memorizing strings since MK3.

Mashing "kinda" worked in MK2 and MK1, but still not really.

Games where mashing works simply allude to the fact that there is a viable footsie and neutral game under the surface. MK hasn't had either for almost 3 decades. I would argue that being able to mash at super low levels is actually somewhat of a good thing.

You might not be able to mash in MK, sure, but once you learn how to type the words on your controller you don't need much else.

Also - I love that NRS thinks they can substitute the word "jailing" for "Frame Trap." It's almost like they don't want to be taken seriously.
Nuriyokan Sep 20, 2023 @ 12:36pm 
Originally posted by Grampire:
MK has pretty much consistently rewarded memorizing strings since MK3.

Mashing "kinda" worked in MK2 and MK1, but still not really.

Games where mashing works simply allude to the fact that there is a viable footsie and neutral game under the surface. MK hasn't had either for almost 3 decades. I would argue that being able to mash at super low levels is actually somewhat of a good thing.

You might not be able to mash in MK, sure, but once you learn how to type the words on your controller you don't need much else.

Also - I love that NRS thinks they can substitute the word "jailing" for "Frame Trap." It's almost like they don't want to be taken seriously.
My bad I made a mistake and read too fast but the pros do use that term .
Lmfao you don't type words on a controller ... lol what ?
Also fighting games are much more than just memorizing a combo and even the pros will tell you this .

wait ... are you trolling for a laugh XD ?
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