why are the women all covered up

[Orange Jesus]

we all wanna see jiggly bits and skin

why is it only the men who can wear revealing clothes

and holy crap, the women have average faces.

why no pretty faces but instead 40yr old soccer mom faces

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Początkowo opublikowane przez RhodosGuard:

Because they admitted their mistake and continued to improve character designs for 3 games now, while, weirdly, also creating a character that was entirely covered that is now one of the MK women with the most hits on r34 pages.

And how is character wearing reavealing clothing a mistake? Even in MK11, Kitana, Jade, Skarlet and Mileena still have the classic MK2 skin, which in your words are "revealing and porn-like". It's the 21st century and it's so common to see women at walking on the street with sports bra and those super short hot-pants. Are you going to call them "porn"? You are just having the moral standard of the medieval ages.

[Hype Seal]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez Duke Nukem and Cat Kickem TEAM:

But actually you are the one of the people that tell the devs what to do otherwise you are offended and they get cancelled. You literally attack the devs because of their freedom of expression of their design and art style (MK9 era) and FORCE them to change (MK10+ era), and then you call all the people that wants the old MK costumes back to listen to the "devs" that you corrupted and in some way "control".




Thank you, WITH THE GREATEST PLEASURE please do it! I didn't wanted to talk with you too but you attacked me for expressing my thoughts on the costumes so I just replied.

For old times sake, one last time:

1. I didnt call for ♥♥♥♥. When I bought MK9 I was 19 or so in Uni. I am not on Reddit, I am not active on Twitter, I am not on Tumblr. I am barely active on social media, I have not criticized them for Mk9 when it released, because I literally bought it multiple years too late. I didnt write angry letters, I wasnt offended and I didnt cancel anyone.
I said I find it in poor taste, but since it's not a core aspect of the game, I didnt mind it.
At most you could say that my criticism extended into hindsight, when I found I preferred more fleshed out designs to pure eyecandy after MKX released.
You are still arguing against a strongman trying to use my history in gaming, as if you knew better than I who I criticized or tried to cancel.

2. I didnt attack you for your opinion. I attacked you for your views that stink of transphobia and misogyny and are simply objectively false. If you think this is attacking or insulting you, then that is your problem to deal with instead of projecting it onto me.

Hey, I was around 19 when MK9 came out too. And im not on reddit, twitter and tumblr, I don't use social media. I use only whatsapp to communicate with family and some close friends and thats it.

I'm not transphobic, why should I tell other people what they do with their lives? If theyre trans sure let them be. I just don't like when its forced everywhere as a top 1 priority and only one way to go (like what is happening in video games for example as this is what is this thread is about). You know there are many kind of people right? Not everybody wants to see only trans people everywhere. But, yeah according to your logic when I want any product without a trans people in it then I'm transphobic LOL! And before you say: "there are many products without trans people, enjoy them" I would like to remind you that one beer brand just changed into a trans-beer brand and if I would say anything about it then I would be called transphobic. But when a trans-beer would be changed into a beer it would be called a "white supremacy". So yeah, I can enjoy some products for now until they will be totally replaced or gone.

[RhodosGuard]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez RhodosGuard:

Because they admitted their mistake and continued to improve character designs for 3 games now, while, weirdly, also creating a character that was entirely covered that is now one of the MK women with the most hits on r34 pages.

And how is character wearing reavealing clothing a mistake? Even in MK11, Kitana, Jade, Skarlet and Mileena still have the classic MK2 skin, which in your words are "revealing and porn-like". It's the 21st century and it's so common to see women at walking on the street with sports bra and those super short hot-pants. Are you going to call them "porn"? You are just having the moral standard of the medieval ages.

It's not in itself a mistake, the mistake was taking these characters, and ,unreflectedly, putting them into stripper outfits because you wanna seem edgy. The Mistake was not designing characters that would/should/could reasonably wear such outfits, but instead just keep going and put them on characters with no reasonable argument to be made as to why, other than tradition and nostalgia, which are always fallacies to fall into.

So they redesigned them, and their new outfits were more in line.

Also, I'd like you to show me the literal quote where I called the outfits "porn-like" in porn people are usually naked.

I called them stripper outfits, and they were. Cut up Leotards at best.
You are also still making the mistake between real people and fictional people.

If a woman wants to dress the way she wants to dress, that's fine. They are usually aware that these clothes promote their sexual identity, and they deserve the right to do so.

But these are fictional characters. Fictional characters designed and controlled by men. These are women that could at the whim of a man either put on 3 winters jackets or be effectively nude.

Intent and purpose seperate from what feels icky from what feels okay to do.
You design a stripper character you give them stripper clothes. Fine.
YOu design a woman proud of their sexuality, openly sexual, flirty, you give them shorts and a crop top? Fine.

You design *checks note* a princess of a fictional realm that was trained in combat and is using fans/sai/bo staff to fight against the enemies of an usurper:
1. you put her in a stripper outfit - kinda weird
2. you design an outfit that represents her status as her surrogate fathers assassin - fine

It's not the fact that they are/were dressed the way they were, it's the implication that happens when you realize that there was no design reason, and it was literally just made to make these characters eye-candy when there is no reason to do so.

And I dont know how often I need to repeat it, I actually played and didnt mind the MK9 outfits, but with hindsight can still say that once the Zeitgeist was gone they felt icky, because I am not an edgy 18 year old anymore who thinks developers are brave for needlessly breaking this tabboo.

[RhodosGuard]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez RhodosGuard:

For old times sake, one last time:

1. I didnt call for ♥♥♥♥. When I bought MK9 I was 19 or so in Uni. I am not on Reddit, I am not active on Twitter, I am not on Tumblr. I am barely active on social media, I have not criticized them for Mk9 when it released, because I literally bought it multiple years too late. I didnt write angry letters, I wasnt offended and I didnt cancel anyone.
I said I find it in poor taste, but since it's not a core aspect of the game, I didnt mind it.
At most you could say that my criticism extended into hindsight, when I found I preferred more fleshed out designs to pure eyecandy after MKX released.
You are still arguing against a strongman trying to use my history in gaming, as if you knew better than I who I criticized or tried to cancel.

2. I didnt attack you for your opinion. I attacked you for your views that stink of transphobia and misogyny and are simply objectively false. If you think this is attacking or insulting you, then that is your problem to deal with instead of projecting it onto me.

Hey, I was around 19 when MK9 came out too. And im not on reddit, twitter and tumblr, I don't use social media. I use only whatsapp to communicate with family and some close friends and thats it.

I'm not transphobic, why should I tell other people what they do with their lives? If theyre trans sure let them be. I just don't like when its forced everywhere as a top 1 priority and only one way to go (like what is happening in video games for example as this is what is this thread is about). You know there are many kind of people right? Not everybody wants to see only trans people everywhere. But, yeah according to your logic when I want any product without a trans people in it then I'm transphobic LOL! And before you say: "there are many products without trans people, enjoy them" I would like to remind you that one beer brand just changed into a trans-beer brand and if I would say anything about it then I would be called transphobic. But when a trans-beer would be changed into a beer it would be called a "white supremacy". So yeah, I can enjoy some products for now until they will be totally replaced or gone.

You actively try to, and want to, misunderstand me.
Your words stink of transphobia not because you say things that hurt transphobic people or attack them, but because you, with no proof, no hint, no implications, just by the way these characters are designed, decided to call all the women trans. And since you use attributes like breast size and butt size to somehow justify this hilariously wrong statement, it simply implies that every woman you see, that has a small butt, or small breasts, you go "Whe a trans woman".

You pretend it's first priority or something when again, NOTHING in the game implies any of these characters are trans. You aren't even strawmanning anymore you are simply substituting reality for a fantasy where you can go and say "all these women are trans so this game is anti feminist and shoving an agenda down my throat" you are like a right wing soundboard with three buttons.

and your beer tangent is just hilariously dumb. Just bottom tier bait.
Literally irrelevant culture war garbage.

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It's not in itself a mistake, the mistake was taking these characters, and ,unreflectedly, putting them into stripper outfits because you wanna seem edgy. The Mistake was not designing characters that would/should/could reasonably wear such outfits, but instead just keep going and put them on characters with no reasonable argument to be made as to why, other than tradition and nostalgia, which are always fallacies to fall into.

So they redesigned them, and their new outfits were more in line.

Also, I'd like you to show me the literal quote where I called the outfits "porn-like" in porn people are usually naked.

I called them stripper outfits, and they were. Cut up Leotards at best.
You are also still making the mistake between real people and fictional people.

If a woman wants to dress the way she wants to dress, that's fine. They are usually aware that these clothes promote their sexual identity, and they deserve the right to do so.

But these are fictional characters. Fictional characters designed and controlled by men. These are women that could at the whim of a man either put on 3 winters jackets or be effectively nude.

Intent and purpose seperate from what feels icky from what feels okay to do.
You design a stripper character you give them stripper clothes. Fine.
YOu design a woman proud of their sexuality, openly sexual, flirty, you give them shorts and a crop top? Fine.

You design *checks note* a princess of a fictional realm that was trained in combat and is using fans/sai/bo staff to fight against the enemies of an usurper:
1. you put her in a stripper outfit - kinda weird
2. you design an outfit that represents her status as her surrogate fathers assassin - fine

It's not the fact that they are/were dressed the way they were, it's the implication that happens when you realize that there was no design reason, and it was literally just made to make these characters eye-candy when there is no reason to do so.

And I dont know how often I need to repeat it, I actually played and didnt mind the MK9 outfits, but with hindsight can still say that once the Zeitgeist was gone they felt icky, because I am not an edgy 18 year old anymore who thinks developers are brave for needlessly breaking this tabboo.

First, why is sex sounding like a taboo for you that you are thinking like it has to be oppressed but not liberated? As you are trying to tell people not to discuss anything sexual and call whoever discuss it edgy and horny.

Second, I believe that there are not only male players and male designers for this game, but also female players and designers. I know females that play this series. And it's not just the female characters in game can be dressed up in different outfits by players and designers, but also male characters. And just as you say, they are just fictional characters. How can you know what the characters like to wear? Giving them covering clothing or exposing clothing both have the chances of going against their will, if you are treating them as "lives" and "people". You are just assuming that they are digital slaves. So your point is inaccurate.

"Also, I'd like you to show me the literal quote where I called the outfits "porn-like" in porn people are usually naked.I called them stripper outfits, and they were."
There are plenty of porns where people wear all sorts of outfits and gears. And you've been saying "tits and butts" "stripper" multiple times and those can't be related to pornographics?

As I've said, I also don't prefer to have combatants fighting in kinky outfits. The wisest way would be to include both practical combat uniform, and those so-called eye-candy outfits, like that in MK11. But this post, this discussion is still valuable and shouldn't be shutted.

[Hype Seal]

Początkowo opublikowane przez RhodosGuard:

You actively try to, and want to, misunderstand me.
Your words stink of transphobia not because you say things that hurt transphobic people or attack them, but because you, with no proof, no hint, no implications, just by the way these characters are designed, decided to call all the women trans.

How do I hurt them? By saying that these people looks like trans people? So if you would see a character that looks like me and you would say "hey, it's looks like you!" I should feel offended and being hurt? I didn't insulted them in any way, and I gave proof but you just skipped it. That's typical for kind of people like you.

Początkowo opublikowane przez RhodosGuard:

And since you use attributes like breast size and butt size to somehow justify this hilariously wrong statement, it simply implies that every woman you see, that has a small butt, or small breasts, you go "Whe a trans woman".

In general females has boobs, males has gun in the pants, right? I don't say all small breasted females are trans, and I don't say all females has boobs but when character is designed as a small breasted female, with male posture and male face, acting and talking like male, it must be a trans character. And cool. Let them be trans. But why all of them? I'm not judging anyone unlike you that wants to remove all the sexy female characters from the game. You are the so called "anti racist" that is actually racist just towards different group of people.

Początkowo opublikowane przez RhodosGuard:

and your beer tangent is just hilariously dumb. Just bottom tier bait.

It has happened and its true. And it's a good point. First the video games, then the TV shows, then EVEN THE BEER?! You guys literally take everything including the all the comedy movies for being "offensive". I'm wondering what will be next, I don't know but I assume the music industry as it has some skimpy female performers in it but the thing I know is that people like you will use the same strategy which is things like "grow up" or"touch grass" or "don't hate (this is according especially to comedy movies because now we can't laugh on everything that we used to laugh in the past, HUMOUR IS NOT NAKED BUT MUST BE POLITICALLY CORRECT ASWELL LOL)". No thanks.

[Orange Jesus]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez Droopy Sax:

nah, im good, i wont buy their games anymore and ill make steam forum posts about how they made a poor design choice
its all i can do and its working out pretty well

guaranteed its a slippery slope just like gay marriage
watch, 5-10 years from now if this crap keeps up, the male characters will have implants and the female chaaracters will have had top surgery

"Gah! This slippery slope, how I hate it! People speak its vulgar name day and night, with no hint of irony, as though it were not a formal logical fallacy."

"Anytime someone asks, 'Where does it stop?' The answer is always, '♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ somewhere!' You might let your kid have Twizzlers, but not inject black-tar heroin. You don't just go, 'Well, after the Twizzlers, where does it stop?'"

Yeah. Your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is really going well considering that they've had 3 successful games in a row now. Really hitting them hard.
They will see. In Time you will have 3 trillion billion million Steam points, and then they will have to admit that you were right, and that all the money they make pales in the shining light of your "Take my Points" and "Slow Clap" awards.

They will surely, at night, lie infront of their hearth and dry their tears with their money, because they upsetty spaghetti some dude who only wants to play MK if it has big tits in it.

the slippery slope is real and now here we are rationalizing the removal of a childs parts

do not forget to add shaving your male characters adamsapples to help the male characters look proper in mortal kombat 2027-2032

[Incompλ]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez RhodosGuard:

"Gah! This slippery slope, how I hate it! People speak its vulgar name day and night, with no hint of irony, as though it were not a formal logical fallacy."

"Anytime someone asks, 'Where does it stop?' The answer is always, '♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ somewhere!' You might let your kid have Twizzlers, but not inject black-tar heroin. You don't just go, 'Well, after the Twizzlers, where does it stop?'"

Yeah. Your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is really going well considering that they've had 3 successful games in a row now. Really hitting them hard.
They will see. In Time you will have 3 trillion billion million Steam points, and then they will have to admit that you were right, and that all the money they make pales in the shining light of your "Take my Points" and "Slow Clap" awards.

They will surely, at night, lie infront of their hearth and dry their tears with their money, because they upsetty spaghetti some dude who only wants to play MK if it has big tits in it.

the slippery slope is real and now here we are rationalizing the removal of a childs parts

do not forget to add shaving your male characters adamsapples to help the male characters look proper in mortal kombat 2027-2032

I'm gonna come back to this thread in the appended years just to prove you wrong.

[Orange Jesus]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez Droopy Sax:

the slippery slope is real and now here we are rationalizing the removal of a childs parts

do not forget to add shaving your male characters adamsapples to help the male characters look proper in mortal kombat 2027-2032

I'm gonna come back to this thread in the appended years just to prove you wrong.

i would love that
i hope i am wrong

[Signed Picasso]

Pretty sure the people who designed the women in this game are misogynist. Because if you loved women as much as I do, you would never want to represent them this heinously.

I will even go further and call them (SF and MK) racist. Because of their depiction of black women is straight up vile. I see beautiful women who proudly display their bodies in tight clothing irl so it's a shame that developers feel the need to take out their hatred of women by not only butchering their faces, but covering up their bodies like some kind of dirty secret.

[Star Rain]

Dude they look sick, Mileena never looked sexier than this, turn model to side angle in the viewer and check out the tits to ass ratio she looks awesome!

Now compare to MK9 where they have the flattest asses in the history of flatasses,
The breastses look like softballs its cartoony as heck.
Ok admittedly i hustled my ass off to finally amass 100K coins to buy the flesh pits Mileena at the time, you bet your ass i did, but then when you finally have it it looks terrible, the face is a toon garbage, the body is all stretchy with weird boobs and trademark NRS flat ass.

Like why in the hell does that game have so many thongs, yet the aesthetic is obliterated by the superflat asses. I mean the whole point of a thong is to check out a womans nice butt! Lets be honest.

Even MK11 has the weird flat-butt problem, but MK1 came outta the gate swinging son!

Mileena's booty is on point, goodness gracious! Kitana too, actually they all genuinely have a very nice butt this time around.

Also Mileena has the biggest breastses but it look real, like a actual busty lady!

If that the tradeoff, toon bodies with thongs or realism bodies with bodysuit then the current style is a easy win for me!

I know some want the best of both worlds but come on your comparing to the manjaw flatass junk we got in MK9 as if thats even close, your being ridiculous.

[Orange Jesus]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Star Rain:

Dude they look sick, Mileena never looked sexier than this, turn model to side angle in the viewer and check out the tits to ass ratio she looks awesome!

Now compare to MK9 where they have the flattest asses in the history of flatasses,
The breastses look like softballs its cartoony as heck.
Ok admittedly i hustled my ass off to finally amass 100K coins to buy the flesh pits Mileena at the time, you bet your ass i did, but then when you finally have it it looks terrible, the face is a toon garbage, the body is all stretchy with weird boobs and trademark NRS flat ass.

Like why in the hell does that game have so many thongs, yet the aesthetic is obliterated by the superflat asses. I mean the whole point of a thong is to check out a womans nice butt! Lets be honest.

Even MK11 has the weird flat-butt problem, but MK1 came outta the gate swinging son!

Mileena's booty is on point, goodness gracious! Kitana too, actually they all genuinely have a very nice butt this time around.

Also Mileena has the biggest breastses but it look real, like a actual busty lady!

If that the tradeoff, toon bodies with thongs or realism bodies with bodysuit then the current style is a easy win for me!

I know some want the best of both worlds but come on your comparing to the manjaw flatass junk we got in MK9 as if thats even close, your being ridiculous.

eh,

[C H A I R M A N]

It's absolutely normal for male athletes to wear tight & revealing clothes but god forbid a woman does it, then she becomes a filthy, disgusting stripper according to male allies.

[VoiD]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Boon: Neass:

Damn why the ♥♥♥♥ do you care? Is that literally all you cared about when you bought this game? Touch grass

You're right, why would people playing a game care about having to play with low quality, ugly trash in their favorite hobby?

Such an absurd idea.

[Orange Jesus]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez Ryu Hayabusa:

RE 4 Remake and SF6 woke ? Where my guy ?

Re remake removed some lines that hurt women's feelings.
as for SF6
Eternity and Marisa

ohooooh nooo the feefees

gotta take away the feefee hurting parts for a wider audience