why are the women all covered up

[Orange Jesus]

we all wanna see jiggly bits and skin

why is it only the men who can wear revealing clothes

and holy crap, the women have average faces.

why no pretty faces but instead 40yr old soccer mom faces

[Sledge]

Chop の投稿を引用：

Droopy Sax の投稿を引用：

because we're having constructive and meaningful discussion

just because our discussion is not for you doesn't mean its not worth having

There's nothing constructive about wanting to see half naked characters in a game that literally copped flak for doing that exact thing in the past. You might think it's constructive but you're just objectifying the characters.

If a woman was going "geez, why are all the men fully clothed, I wish there were some loin cloth only skins" that would be shut down instantly lol.

And you're original post states we "all" want that. Nah, I'd rather have the characters actually have substance instead of just boobs.

"Objectifying the characters".

Ultimately, they're digital beings, not real people, I'm not sure as to why this is an issue exactly. They're instruments for ultra-violence as well, but alas a blind eye is turned to that without question. That's why we buy MK to begin with! Apparently, any form of sexualisation is a "betrayal" to women, but ripping them in half from the nether-regions up is apparently, a-ok. Interesting thought process.

I'll admit, MK9 was ridiculous due to it's adult entertainment star proportions for all female characters. The outfits though were fine and NRS do seem to be hypocritical when it comes to costume design, because they've openly admitted to wanting more "realistic combat attire" for the ladies, but the men aren't seeing the same treatment. Not only that, heels, NRS has a fetish / obsession for heels. There is never going to be a situation where wearing high heels in any form, qualifies as "realistic combat attire".

Street Fighter strikes a solid balance I feel. You end up with unique looking (body model) females (and males!) over there, that are capable of smashing heads as well as turning them.

They're all pixels at the end of the day, I don't think it's worth getting upset over, I just don't vibe the idea that the objectification of video game characters is problematic in any way, shape or form.

[Chop]

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Chop の投稿を引用：

That doesn't say "I represent all women and am speaking for them". Stop putting words in my mouth.

It does say you are trying to tell people who have different views from yours to shut up and want to have their posts censored. And that you are judging that "good-looking female characters in revealing clothing in mk9 is a betrayal to women".

I never said that about mk9. I stated a fact, and that fact was that they faced some backlash for the way they portrayed the female characters in the game.

Mate, you're just making things up and claiming I said them at this point.

Not even worth replying to if you're just going to fabricate nonsense and then claim I said it.

[Chop]

Oathbreaker の投稿を引用：

Chop の投稿を引用：

There's nothing constructive about wanting to see half naked characters in a game that literally copped flak for doing that exact thing in the past. You might think it's constructive but you're just objectifying the characters.

If a woman was going "geez, why are all the men fully clothed, I wish there were some loin cloth only skins" that would be shut down instantly lol.

And you're original post states we "all" want that. Nah, I'd rather have the characters actually have substance instead of just boobs.

"Objectifying the characters".

Ultimately, they're digital beings, not real people, I'm not sure as to why this is an issue exactly. They're instruments for ultra-violence as well, but alas a blind eye is turned to that without question. That's why we buy MK to begin with! Apparently, any form of sexualisation is a "betrayal" to women, but ripping them in half from the nether-regions up is apparently, a-ok. Interesting thought process.

I'll admit, MK9 was ridiculous due to it's adult entertainment star proportions for all female characters. The outfits though were fine and NRS do seem to be hypocritical when it comes to costume design, because they've openly admitted to wanting more "realistic combat attire" for the ladies, but the men aren't seeing the same treatment. Not only that, heels, NRS has a fetish / obsession for heels. There is never going to be a situation where wearing high heels in any form, qualifies as "realistic combat attire".

Street Fighter strikes a solid balance I feel. You end up with unique looking (body model) females (and males!) over there, that are capable of smashing heads as well as turning them.

They're all pixels at the end of the day, I don't think it's worth getting upset over, I just don't vibe the idea that the objectification of video game characters is problematic in any way, shape or form.

Upset?? Who says I was upset😅 why is thinking OP was behaving in a disrespectful way being "upset"?

Sure, they're just pixels until people start caring about how they look, who voices them and what personalities they have, which clearly a lot of people do in this thread. But I'm the weird one who cares too much🤦‍♂️

Honestly people will go to great lengths to justify wanting to see some TnA 🤦‍♂️

[Incompλ]

Nocturno の投稿を引用：

Wokeism.

Womp womp

[Sledge]

Chop の投稿を引用：

Oathbreaker の投稿を引用：

"Objectifying the characters".

Ultimately, they're digital beings, not real people, I'm not sure as to why this is an issue exactly. They're instruments for ultra-violence as well, but alas a blind eye is turned to that without question. That's why we buy MK to begin with! Apparently, any form of sexualisation is a "betrayal" to women, but ripping them in half from the nether-regions up is apparently, a-ok. Interesting thought process.

I'll admit, MK9 was ridiculous due to it's adult entertainment star proportions for all female characters. The outfits though were fine and NRS do seem to be hypocritical when it comes to costume design, because they've openly admitted to wanting more "realistic combat attire" for the ladies, but the men aren't seeing the same treatment. Not only that, heels, NRS has a fetish / obsession for heels. There is never going to be a situation where wearing high heels in any form, qualifies as "realistic combat attire".

Street Fighter strikes a solid balance I feel. You end up with unique looking (body model) females (and males!) over there, that are capable of smashing heads as well as turning them.

They're all pixels at the end of the day, I don't think it's worth getting upset over, I just don't vibe the idea that the objectification of video game characters is problematic in any way, shape or form.

Upset?? Who says I was upset😅 why is thinking OP was behaving in a disrespectful way being "upset"?

Sure, they're just pixels until people start caring about how they look, who voices them and what personalities they have, which clearly a lot of people do in this thread. But I'm the weird one who cares too much🤦‍♂️

Honestly people will go to great lengths to justify wanting to see some TnA 🤦‍♂️

Not worth getting upset over was a generalised statement regarding all parties, for or against, not specifically aimed at you.

People do care about how they look, which is why this discussion is being had to begin with. Some people are for more skin showing or sexualisation, and others, like yourself, are not.

VA has no bearing on how the characters should look so I'm not sure as to what that rebuttal is, unless you're going to argue that every attractive woman, or woman that likes to wear certain types of clothing must speak in a seductive voice to represent that, which is just bonkers.

Personality? Sure, I'll agree with this one. SF6 has great looking male and female characters that manage to showcase their bodies, of various proportions in outfits that represent them and their personalities no issue.

This seems to be an issue for NRS though.

As for going to great lengths on justifying seeing TnA? I've been settled for over 11 years this October, I have two kids, I'm not angry nor upset that these changes are being made, I'm simply having a discussion about it where I disagree with your take.

You do you though.

[Les Yeux De Ni ni]

I agree with the OP. See mk11 and this. Compare them. You will realise the huge difference.

The only good things to me about mk1 are truly good looking Sindel and hot Nitara. Rest is looking awful especially Tanya's face.

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Chop の投稿を引用：

I never said that about mk9. I stated a fact, and that fact was that they faced some backlash for the way they portrayed the female characters in the game.

Mate, you're just making things up and claiming I said them at this point.

Not even worth replying to if you're just going to fabricate nonsense and then claim I said it.

So I guess I'm right about the point that you want the op and this post to be canceled.

"Having female characters in revealing clothes gets Mk9 criticized" is an objective statement.
Yet saying that "MK9's female character portrayal is a betrayal to women so it gets criticized" involves your subjective personal judgment.

You threw MK9 as an example to tell that "digital female characters with good look and revealing outfit is objectification and betrayal to women". Quit denying it and shifting the topic.

[Chop]

151 の投稿を引用：

Chop の投稿を引用：

I never said that about mk9. I stated a fact, and that fact was that they faced some backlash for the way they portrayed the female characters in the game.

Mate, you're just making things up and claiming I said them at this point.

Not even worth replying to if you're just going to fabricate nonsense and then claim I said it.

So I guess I'm right about the point that you want the op and this post to be canceled.

"Having female characters in revealing clothes gets Mk9 criticized" is an objective statement.
Yet saying that "MK9's female character portrayal is a betrayal to women so it gets criticized" involves your subjective personal judgment.

You threw MK9 as an example to tell that "digital female characters with good look and revealing outfit is objectification and betrayal to women". Quit denying it and shifting the topic.

I'm not shifting anything! You quoted the words I wrote and I read your post about 10 times scratching my head how on earth you came to that conclusion.

I said it got backlash, not gets, as in past tense, already happened.

I said what I said, if you choose to read in to it and make character judgements and assessments about me be my guest but I NEVER claimed to be speaking on behalf of or for women. I simply expressed an opinion that you obviously disagree with, so instead of making ♥♥♥♥ up how about you just agree to disagree.

Sheesh.

[Tweetums]

Ripping a woman apart in half, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ down her throat, using her spine as a whip, sticking swords through her tits and tearing her eyes out = ok :)

Is that.... is that cleavage??? on a good looking woman with a pretty face??? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SAVE ME BIDEN SAVE ME AOC AAAA BLACKROCK WHERE ARE THE EGS FUNDS HELP MEEEEE

[Chop]

Tweetums の投稿を引用：

Ripping a woman apart in half, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ down her throat, using her spine as a whip, sticking swords through her tits and tearing her eyes out = ok :)

Is that.... is that cleavage??? on a good looking woman with a pretty face??? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SAVE ME BIDEN SAVE ME AOC AAAA BLACKROCK WHERE ARE THE EGS FUNDS HELP MEEEEE

♥♥♥♥ off. People are allowed to have opinions that are different to yours.

Steam is a damn cesspool honestly.

[151]

Chop の投稿を引用：

151 の投稿を引用：

So I guess I'm right about the point that you want the op and this post to be canceled.

"Having female characters in revealing clothes gets Mk9 criticized" is an objective statement.
Yet saying that "MK9's female character portrayal is a betrayal to women so it gets criticized" involves your subjective personal judgment.

You threw MK9 as an example to tell that "digital female characters with good look and revealing outfit is objectification and betrayal to women". Quit denying it and shifting the topic.

I'm not shifting anything! You quoted the words I wrote and I read your post about 10 times scratching my head how on earth you came to that conclusion.

I said it got backlash, not gets, as in past tense, already happened.

I said what I said, if you choose to read in to it and make character judgements and assessments about me be my guest but I NEVER claimed to be speaking on behalf of or for women. I simply expressed an opinion that you obviously disagree with, so instead of making ♥♥♥♥ up how about you just agree to disagree.

Sheesh.

You are trying to shift and evade again. If your point and example aren't to tell that "female characters with good look and revealing outfit is objectification and betrayal to women", what is it then? What's the "opinion that I obviously disagree with"? You are the one who started giving no points, but playing with words.

[151]

Chop の投稿を引用：

Tweetums の投稿を引用：

Ripping a woman apart in half, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ down her throat, using her spine as a whip, sticking swords through her tits and tearing her eyes out = ok :)

Is that.... is that cleavage??? on a good looking woman with a pretty face??? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SAVE ME BIDEN SAVE ME AOC AAAA BLACKROCK WHERE ARE THE EGS FUNDS HELP MEEEEE

♥♥♥♥ off. People are allowed to have opinions that are different to yours.

Steam is a damn cesspool honestly.

You: "People are allowed to have opinions that are different to yours"

Also you:

Chop の投稿を引用：

How has this thread not been locked yet 😂 come on steam.

I guess places with different people, different voices and different opinions are cesspools to you.

[Sledge]

151 の投稿を引用：

Chop の投稿を引用：

♥♥♥♥ off. People are allowed to have opinions that are different to yours.

Steam is a damn cesspool honestly.

You: "People are allowed to have opinions that are different to yours"

Also you:

Chop の投稿を引用：

How has this thread not been locked yet 😂 come on steam.

I guess places with different people, different voices and different opinions are cesspools to you.

Can't debate and wants the opinions of other people to be shut down.

Hilarious really, completely avoided responding to my reply to reply to yours instead. comical.

[Chop]

151 の投稿を引用：

Chop の投稿を引用：

♥♥♥♥ off. People are allowed to have opinions that are different to yours.

Steam is a damn cesspool honestly.

You: "People are allowed to have opinions that are different to yours"

Also you:

Chop の投稿を引用：

How has this thread not been locked yet 😂 come on steam.

I guess places with different people, different voices and different opinions are cesspools to you.

Now who's shifting the topic 😂

[Chop]

151 の投稿を引用：

Chop の投稿を引用：

♥♥♥♥ off. People are allowed to have opinions that are different to yours.

Steam is a damn cesspool honestly.

You: "People are allowed to have opinions that are different to yours"

Also you:

Chop の投稿を引用：

How has this thread not been locked yet 😂 come on steam.

I guess places with different people, different voices and different opinions are cesspools to you.

Oh there we go again, putting words in my mouth. I never said that.