Buff Frost Kameo

[jesl95]

Her forward assist takes too long to activate. Impossible to use for mix-ups unless opponent is a potato. Either players have an eternity to see it and block it or they can just straight-up get a full punish off. Her backwards assist takes way too long as well. Even if you decide to cancel it, the start-up animation still takes too long.

[Kolumbo]

Frost is clearly not designed for mix-ups, there are other kameos that are much better if that's what you are looking for. The ice orb is indeed very slow but it's also very very powerful if you get it out, so that's why.

[jesl95]

Originally posted by Kolumbo:

Frost is clearly not designed for mix-ups, there are other kameos that are much better if that's what you are looking for. The ice orb is indeed very slow but it's also very very powerful if you get it out, so that's why.

I am team Sub/Frost all the way. I can't cheat on her :(. I'm just simply just giving my two cents on what could make her better. If not for mix-up, at least she can be better at cleaning up a characters falws. Even though there aren't a lot of mix-up cameos, most of them do a great job at covering for recovery.

[Kolumbo]

Fair enough. But the point of kameos isn't for every one of them to provide everything. Frost has one of the best grounded combo extenders in the game (alongside Sub and Sheerah) and a fairly unique and powerful space control/setup tool (the ice orb) so she's not gonna get fast mixups and recovery protection too.

[Killjoy]

the slow frost orb allows you to do whatever you want because the slow projectile is a threat if you don't block it u will eat a full freeze.

[jesl95]

Originally posted by Killjoy:

the slow frost orb allows you to do whatever you want because the slow projectile is a threat if you don't block it u will eat a full freeze.

most players see it, get max range, and keep dodging away while being on the lookout for gap-closers. Again, if you cancel it and try to get em off guard, they peep it too easy. It might get one person good once, but it's not consistent enough.

[jesl95]

Originally posted by Kolumbo:

Fair enough. But the point of kameos isn't for every one of them to provide everything. Frost has one of the best grounded combo extenders in the game (alongside Sub and Sheerah) and a fairly unique and powerful space control/setup tool (the ice orb) so she's not gonna get fast mixups and recovery protection too.

Good point. I'm not saying she needs everything, but jeez. Her only saving grace is her combo extender. Still if it was a tid bit faster to where it can be used off any hit, like a light jab, she'd be 100% better.

That orb is troll with how long the startup animation is and how slow the orb is. The move lasts long, but it's only good for extending neutrals for most characters. You can just move away from it. It just keeps people out the air, but you'd need to be max range to even contemplate using it effectively in a fight. If you're at max range, the orb's not connecting. If you use it up close, guaranteed you'll get fully punished. Unless, your opponent is scared.