If You Play Raiden, Johnny Cage, Baraka (especially with Cyrax) or Rain...

[#IAMLIAR]

Get a life. Thank you for listening. You are garbage, you are not on EVO stage, you are at home sitting on your crusty ass computer playing Kombat League. These characters are obviously top tier and oppressive, you play them to win, you lack in fundamental skill and playing in the neutral and it's obvious. Every match is literally one of these characters, you all need to actually play your main and not some top tier character just because you are trash and need to get carried by your character. Now you're going to tell me these are your mains and your favourite characters... Where were you in MK11? These characters were barely touched in MK11, stop being goofy.

Edit: For those who say stupid ignorant asinine comments like "jUsT gIT gUt". I see that you're happy being carried. Seriously, don't be goofy. These characters are extremely safe and with Cyrax, they chip 30% of your health with just two Cyrax Kameo uses... Baraka gets a free 30% combo off a throw with Cyrax. It takes little to no effort to pull this off combined with optimal combos having 50%+ damage. Raiden can do the same with specials, minus the throw. Not to mention Raiden is safe and is almost unpunishable and with one little mistake you lose 50% of your health. Johnny Cage also great combo damage and is plus framed after almost all strings, has four launchers and three are safe on block. So when is it the other players turn? If you find that fun, you're part of the problem. I stopped playing Baraka because of how free that filth is, it's not fun, if you abuse this, which you most likely do, it's because you need to seek validation from your rank and can't get it in real life, how embarrassing for your soul.

For those who think Rain isn't top tier. Everyone thought Rain was weak, yet even the pros now who have figured him out are rating him very highly. SonicFox literally clowned people for saying Rain wasn't top tier. Watch some gameplay of him. The character is barely punishable and his zoning is actually really good. He's great at all ranges. He even has an armoured launcher that is unreactable (yeah that's really 'nice' and it's ranged and comes out faster than Shao's and is a 50/50 guessing game between his overhead launcher, which can also be cancelled into a throw) Online and offline gameplay are two different scenes. Online, Rain is really oppressive and does too much that you can't even do anything to get in if you aren't playing a character like Tanya. I'll give you all about a month before you all come back on here and complain about him.

[imsouporcereal]

Originally posted by Superbia:

Originally posted by sg1darkcalling:

The amount of character assassination and toxicity against this post also just proves the ops point. Most of said toxicity is going to be from said barracka, raiden, and johny cash players that are trigggered by the post. Its funny how their responses are extremely emotional too further proving the point. Those fighters are undeniably S Tier and are easier to carry with. Just like any other game. Say league of legends. People like to chase the meta.

Statistics dont lie. There is a reason why they are the most played fighters in the game. Its statistics. Learn how to use your head instead of resorting to emotional appeals and ad hominen attacks like children maybe.

Not that I take your arguments seriously, but for argument's sake, I will correct you.

First, you claim OP is the victim here? Lol. The guy was literally spewing hate speech and harassment left and right, which is why he got banned. Aside from the fact that his entire post was a rant because he can't win against meta picks, he had no arguments when backed into a corner and had to resort to petty ad hominem, like most trolls do when you debunk their drivel. Therefore, you trying to paint this picture that OP is the innocent victim and everyone dunking on him just have to be the evil Baraka/Johnny/Raiden mains is just comical. Thanks for the laugh.

Secondly, you claim S tier characters "carry" someone to victory. That's an absurd statement. If that were the case, everyone in all ranks would be playing Kenshi and winning. This is the typical FGC scrub mindset I talked about earlier. Blaming all of your losses and shortcomings on the other player using a higher tier character than you is a surefire way of ensuring you never get taken seriously by others and remain stagnant in your low rank.

Have you even played this game?

[F0X7]

I agree, tier ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ruin this community. I cannot stand meta slaves, they ruin every freaking game out there. I played Raiden from literally day 1 solely because I mained in mk11 and I loved his new farmer persona. I had no clue if he would be good or bad. But now that I see how braindead his combos are and how many people spam him just because 'mUh MeTa' I actually switched off of him to Shao.

[「Blackmore」]

I play who I want to play (and 3/4 of the time my favourites are normally rarely seen in the meta; in MK1's case Havik).

At the end of the day I believe in a "don't hate the player, hate the game" mentality when it comes to competitive games.

[ChangingTheories]

I’d like to ask the OP wether he was in the arcades with me playing the first ever MK, manning Raiden. Who is he to tell anyone who to play. It’s a fighting game!

[Darth Cervantes]

did this dude really get banned for complaining about a game in a forum meant for that game? man, people sure are sensitive these days

[Metr0Man]

Originally posted by Darth Cervantes:

did this dude really get banned for complaining about a game in a forum meant for that game? man, people sure are sensitive these days

he wouldn't have if he didn't toss in sad angry insults towards people like a sore loser

[Grim_Hyper]

Originally posted by sg1darkcalling:

The amount of character assassination and toxicity against this post also just proves the ops point. Most of said toxicity is going to be from said barracka, raiden, and johny cash players that are trigggered by the post. Its funny how their responses are extremely emotional too further proving the point. Those fighters are undeniably S Tier and are easier to carry with. Just like any other game. Say league of legends. People like to chase the meta.

Statistics dont lie. There is a reason why they are the most played fighters in the game. Its statistics. Learn how to use your head instead of resorting to emotional appeals and ad hominen attacks like children maybe.

Dude there is always gonna be an S-Tier, what happens if Sub gets a buff an is S-Tier? Gonna start calling for nerfs there too?

[imsouporcereal]

Originally posted by Grim_Hyper:

Originally posted by sg1darkcalling:

The amount of character assassination and toxicity against this post also just proves the ops point. Most of said toxicity is going to be from said barracka, raiden, and johny cash players that are trigggered by the post. Its funny how their responses are extremely emotional too further proving the point. Those fighters are undeniably S Tier and are easier to carry with. Just like any other game. Say league of legends. People like to chase the meta.

Statistics dont lie. There is a reason why they are the most played fighters in the game. Its statistics. Learn how to use your head instead of resorting to emotional appeals and ad hominen attacks like children maybe.

Dude there is always gonna be an S-Tier, what happens if Sub gets a buff an is S-Tier? Gonna start calling for nerfs there too?

To be fair, Baraka/Cyrax are way above S-tier.

[F0X7]

Originally posted by Superbia:

Originally posted by imsouporcereal:

You are OP's alt, which is why you're on a private account. All you've done in this topic is back up OP's ridiculous and baseless rants, the way only an alt would do. It's painfully obvious, really and your ban was well earned.

You lost all credibility the when you posted "ridiculous and baseless rants". You may not agree with the level of frustration OP expressed, but to hand wave his point about the character imbalance and the obvious fact that people pick the broken characters to get carried shows how childish you are.

[Apollyon]

Originally posted by F0X7:

You lost all credibility the when you posted "ridiculous and baseless rants". You may not agree with the level of frustration OP expressed, but to hand wave his point about the character imbalance and the obvious fact that people pick the broken characters to get carried shows how childish you are.

It is you who is childish and ignorant on how fighting games work. There is always going to be a meta and certain characters who have tools that give them an advantage. In no way does that translate to "I pick the S tier characters and I win every game". That is just the most childish, immature way to look at fighting games lol. If that's how you see it, you probably need to stay far away from fighting games. Blaming your opponent's pick for you losing is the easiest and lamest way to make excuses for being bad and it's pretty cringe to see you defending that mindset.

At the end of the day, you are free to play said S tier characters yourself, if you think that will help you. The reality is, player skill determines winning and losing a lot more than tiers and meta.

@imsouporcereal: Your suggestion about a FT10 between us is pointless and has nothing to do with this debate. It's painfully obvious you're using it as a scapegoat to try to shift the conversation away from the fact that I obliterated your "arguments" for the past 3 pages. Why do you do this to yourself?

Anyhow, I see you've run out of material and have to fall back on previous page stuff. Since you can't even keep up anymore and are getting a bit too repetitive for my taste, I think I'll leave it at this. I've made the points I came here to make and your inane rant has been soundly defeated and exposed for what it really is: projection and casting blame on other players for your own lack of skill. Cope.

[imsouporcereal]

Originally posted by Superbia:

Originally posted by F0X7:

You lost all credibility the when you posted "ridiculous and baseless rants". You may not agree with the level of frustration OP expressed, but to hand wave his point about the character imbalance and the obvious fact that people pick the broken characters to get carried shows how childish you are.

It is you who is childish and ignorant on how fighting games work. There is always going to be a meta and certain characters who have tools that give them an advantage. In no way does that translate to "I pick the S tier characters and I win every game". That is just the most childish, immature way to look at fighting games lol. If that's how you see it, you probably need to stay far away from fighting games. Blaming your opponent's pick for you losing is the easiest and lamest way to make excuses for being bad and it's pretty cringe to see you defending that mindset.

At the end of the day, you are free to play said S tier characters yourself, if you think that will help you. The reality is, player skill determines winning and losing a lot more than tiers and meta.

You have no business being in this thread. You’re not playing the game and you’re clearly here to get a rise out of whoever you can. Pick another community to troll.

[Juri's_feet_tho]

Originally posted by Fourloken:

Rain?

My man got set up by that stun into swirl combo from the sound of it lol

[imsouporcereal]

Originally posted by Superbia:

Originally posted by F0X7:

You lost all credibility the when you posted "ridiculous and baseless rants". You may not agree with the level of frustration OP expressed, but to hand wave his point about the character imbalance and the obvious fact that people pick the broken characters to get carried shows how childish you are.

It is you who is childish and ignorant on how fighting games work. There is always going to be a meta and certain characters who have tools that give them an advantage. In no way does that translate to "I pick the S tier characters and I win every game". That is just the most childish, immature way to look at fighting games lol. If that's how you see it, you probably need to stay far away from fighting games. Blaming your opponent's pick for you losing is the easiest and lamest way to make excuses for being bad and it's pretty cringe to see you defending that mindset.

At the end of the day, you are free to play said S tier characters yourself, if you think that will help you. The reality is, player skill determines winning and losing a lot more than tiers and meta.

@imsouporcereal: Your suggestion about a FT10 between us is pointless and has nothing to do with this debate. It's painfully obvious you're using it as a scapegoat to try to shift the conversation away from the fact that I obliterated your "arguments" for the past 3 pages. Why do you do this to yourself?

Anyhow, I see you've run out of material and have to fall back on previous page stuff. Since you can't even keep up anymore and are getting a bit too repetitive for my taste, I think I'll leave it at this. I've made the points I came here to make and your inane rant has been soundly defeated and exposed for what it really is: projection and casting blame on other players for your own lack of skill. Cope.

Offer remains. I’ll be here for that FT10 whenever you start playing the game.

[El ComaAndante Morales]

I just prefer have 50% wr and learning characters that I like than playing Tier S+ and have 70%, people is just sad. You aren't going to play a big tournament, you are playing KL at 3k elo or versus games xdd

[Apollyon]

Originally posted by Jorrdan:

I just prefer have 50% wr and learning characters that I like than playing Tier S+ and have 70%, people is just sad. You aren't going to play a big tournament, you are playing KL at 3k elo or versus games xdd

Weird argument. It's not sad if winning is someone's priority. Ranked is a competition and competitive people prioritize winning. What's sad is ranting, throwing insults and blaming your losses on the opponent's pick because you're not good enough to win against them.