If You Play Raiden, Johnny Cage, Baraka (especially with Cyrax) or Rain...

[#IAMLIAR]

Get a life. Thank you for listening. You are garbage, you are not on EVO stage, you are at home sitting on your crusty ass computer playing Kombat League. These characters are obviously top tier and oppressive, you play them to win, you lack in fundamental skill and playing in the neutral and it's obvious. Every match is literally one of these characters, you all need to actually play your main and not some top tier character just because you are trash and need to get carried by your character. Now you're going to tell me these are your mains and your favourite characters... Where were you in MK11? These characters were barely touched in MK11, stop being goofy.

Edit: For those who say stupid ignorant asinine comments like "jUsT gIT gUt". I see that you're happy being carried. Seriously, don't be goofy. These characters are extremely safe and with Cyrax, they chip 30% of your health with just two Cyrax Kameo uses... Baraka gets a free 30% combo off a throw with Cyrax. It takes little to no effort to pull this off combined with optimal combos having 50%+ damage. Raiden can do the same with specials, minus the throw. Not to mention Raiden is safe and is almost unpunishable and with one little mistake you lose 50% of your health. Johnny Cage also great combo damage and is plus framed after almost all strings, has four launchers and three are safe on block. So when is it the other players turn? If you find that fun, you're part of the problem. I stopped playing Baraka because of how free that filth is, it's not fun, if you abuse this, which you most likely do, it's because you need to seek validation from your rank and can't get it in real life, how embarrassing for your soul.

For those who think Rain isn't top tier. Everyone thought Rain was weak, yet even the pros now who have figured him out are rating him very highly. SonicFox literally clowned people for saying Rain wasn't top tier. Watch some gameplay of him. The character is barely punishable and his zoning is actually really good. He's great at all ranges. He even has an armoured launcher that is unreactable (yeah that's really 'nice' and it's ranged and comes out faster than Shao's and is a 50/50 guessing game between his overhead launcher, which can also be cancelled into a throw) Online and offline gameplay are two different scenes. Online, Rain is really oppressive and does too much that you can't even do anything to get in if you aren't playing a character like Tanya. I'll give you all about a month before you all come back on here and complain about him.

[imsouporcereal]

Originally posted by KripTed:

Originally posted by imsouporcereal:

Okay you need to start coming with actual proof of this. It is not “easy to detect.” Especially if your method of detection being “they just do the same combo.” What are you even talking about?

I’m very interested to hear how much time you’ve spent online. I’m willing to bet I’ve put a lot more time into KL than you, and I haven’t once thought “this person is cheating.” And I have been absolutely dumpstered many times.

OP is definitely crazy asking for nerfs this early, but if he got banned, you probably should as well. This is not the first time I’ve seen you in these forums saying this game has a massive cheater problem. I think it’s pretty clear that you have a personal vendetta against this game. It’s not an acceptable $70, I agree. But you’re trying to spread unsubstantiated information to further hurt the game.

Whether you want to believe it or not, there are a lot of us that actually think this game is fun.

I strongly recommend you find some people that will play with you. You might actually start liking the game.

I spent enough time. I never claimed to be really good or whatever. The combos and mechanics are the exact same as MK9 and I've played that game a lot to know a macro script user when I see one. Just a simple YouTube search for Cronus Zen MK1 and you'll get results for Johnny Cage. Why should I be banned? I've done nothing wrong. It's not unsubstantiated information. Use YouTube.

The OP is completely right. These characters are a little overpowered at times and are used in a very like...lame way.

I don't have a personal vendetta. Just because I'm giving criticism or telling people some information or my opinion doesn't mean that. It has nothing to do with money. I never spent a dime on this product. Who said I didn't like the fighting? The game needs a lot of work and I'm sure most of us would agree. Except you.

So how much time do you have? What’s your record? What’s your rank? And how often would you say you’re encountering a cheater?

[KripTed]

Originally posted by imsouporcereal:

Originally posted by KripTed:

I spent enough time. I never claimed to be really good or whatever. The combos and mechanics are the exact same as MK9 and I've played that game a lot to know a macro script user when I see one. Just a simple YouTube search for Cronus Zen MK1 and you'll get results for Johnny Cage. Why should I be banned? I've done nothing wrong. It's not unsubstantiated information. Use YouTube.

The OP is completely right. These characters are a little overpowered at times and are used in a very like...lame way.

I don't have a personal vendetta. Just because I'm giving criticism or telling people some information or my opinion doesn't mean that. It has nothing to do with money. I never spent a dime on this product. Who said I didn't like the fighting? The game needs a lot of work and I'm sure most of us would agree. Except you.

So how much time do you have? What’s your record? What’s your rank? And how often would you say you’re encountering a cheater?

I don't encounter them every match. Maybe out of say 5 matches? There is usually one or two? If you watch those videos on YouTube. They play just like the videos. That's usually how you know. What's your rank? What's your record? Why does that matter? I never claimed to be good or God tier, but I still know a cheater when I see one. The proof is all over YouTube. These people "do" exist and they're in KL.

[Banafrit™]

Originally posted by Anth1n:

Get a life. Thank you for listening. You are garbage, you are not on EVO stage, you are at home sitting on your crusty ass computer playing Kombat League. These characters are obviously top tier and oppressive, you play them to win, you lack in fundamental skill and playing in the neutral and it's obvious. Every match is literally one of these characters, you all need to actually play your main and not some top tier character just because you are trash and need to get carried by your character. Now you're going to tell me these are your mains and your favourite characters... Where were you in MK11? These characters were barely touched in MK11, stop being goofy.

Fellow Rain Main here. Have been since the UMK3 days. Here's my advice:

Sub-Zero Kameo.

[imsouporcereal]

Originally posted by KripTed:

Originally posted by imsouporcereal:

So how much time do you have? What’s your record? What’s your rank? And how often would you say you’re encountering a cheater?

I don't encounter them every match. Maybe out of say 5 matches? There is usually one or two? If you watch those videos on YouTube. They play just like the videos. That's usually how you know. What's your rank? What's your record? Why does that matter? I never claimed to be good or God tier, but I still know a cheater when I see one. The proof is all over YouTube. These people "do" exist and they're in KL.

I’m only GM rn. Not sure how much time I have. Not sure my exact W/L. I think it’s 55/45.
I watched the video of macros with Johnny. It’s irritating that people would consider doing this, but I’m not sure this is practical… If I block one of these macros, I’m punishing 100%. If they try again, I’m punishing again. Basically they’re completely readable at that point bc they’re only doing one thing.

You’re saying if someone doesn’t drop their combos, they’re cheating. Everyone has their go-to BnB. I have combos I use at mid, corner, and anti air. Would you like to run a set? I really want to see how you play.

[KripTed]

Originally posted by imsouporcereal:

Originally posted by KripTed:

I don't encounter them every match. Maybe out of say 5 matches? There is usually one or two? If you watch those videos on YouTube. They play just like the videos. That's usually how you know. What's your rank? What's your record? Why does that matter? I never claimed to be good or God tier, but I still know a cheater when I see one. The proof is all over YouTube. These people "do" exist and they're in KL.

I’m only GM rn. Not sure how much time I have. Not sure my exact W/L. I think it’s 55/45.
I watched the video of macros with Johnny. It’s irritating that people would consider doing this, but I’m not sure this is practical… If I block one of these macros, I’m punishing 100%. If they try again, I’m punishing again. Basically they’re completely readable at that point bc they’re only doing one thing.

You’re saying if someone doesn’t drop their combos, they’re cheating. Everyone has their go-to BnB. I have combos I use at mid, corner, and anti air. Would you like to run a set? I really want to see how you play.

No I’m not saying that at all. I understand combos are a thing and they’re part of the mechanics. It’s just you can tell when someone is using a program to do these combos because there’s literally no mistakes at all. No one’s that perfect all the time, lol. Even pros make mistakes. I did say there are ways to counter them and you can adapt. Yes they do become readable after awhile. Especially if you play against said characters over and over. You start to know what’s the high and low attack/block.

I understand there are just some bad players and maybe some of these complaints are literally just that. But we can’t completely negate the fact that there are people using one button script combos.

[itzDerrio]

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[Robo013]

Baraka is my favourite charakter since MK2, and I wasnt realy hyped for MK12, until his trailer reveal (because I think the MK12 story is garbage, the whole New Area is weak storytelling and characterdevelopment).... but relax, I'm realy bad at this game. Was way better playing Baraka in MK11.

Baraka has nearly no mix-ups, isn't it easy to block low and punish? Think not he is unfair, maybe just easier to play for beginner with Cyrax. If you learn your charakter, every one is quite devastating. In some weeks, nobody will care about Baraka (as usual).

[imsouporcereal]

Originally posted by KripTed:

Originally posted by imsouporcereal:

I’m only GM rn. Not sure how much time I have. Not sure my exact W/L. I think it’s 55/45.
I watched the video of macros with Johnny. It’s irritating that people would consider doing this, but I’m not sure this is practical… If I block one of these macros, I’m punishing 100%. If they try again, I’m punishing again. Basically they’re completely readable at that point bc they’re only doing one thing.

You’re saying if someone doesn’t drop their combos, they’re cheating. Everyone has their go-to BnB. I have combos I use at mid, corner, and anti air. Would you like to run a set? I really want to see how you play.

No I’m not saying that at all. I understand combos are a thing and they’re part of the mechanics. It’s just you can tell when someone is using a program to do these combos because there’s literally no mistakes at all. No one’s that perfect all the time, lol. Even pros make mistakes. I did say there are ways to counter them and you can adapt. Yes they do become readable after awhile. Especially if you play against said characters over and over. You start to know what’s the high and low attack/block.

I understand there are just some bad players and maybe some of these complaints are literally just that. But we can’t completely negate the fact that there are people using one button script combos.

I just don’t see macros being a game breaking advantage in a fighting game. If anything, it almost seems like a disadvantage.

There are a lot of mind games available in this game. Spacing is as important for some characters as it was in MK11. Reptile specifically relies almost entirely on good spacing. It is actually very difficult to open up an opponent with a raw string with Reptile.

So, yeah, I just can’t see someone executing one thing over and over being an advantage. Especially since there are sometimes scenarios where you will be at a disadvantage by following a combo through completely.

But when I hear cheating, I’m thinking, “oh okay there’s no way for me to win.” If you want to experience that, go play Apex. It is seriously like every other game minimum.

EDIT: I want to make it very clear that using macros or any cheat is not acceptable and if you are, you are an embarrassment to the human race.

[so007]

Originally posted by Anth1n:

Get a life. Thank you for listening. You are garbage, you are not on EVO stage, you are at home sitting on your crusty ass computer playing Kombat League. These characters are obviously top tier and oppressive, you play them to win, you lack in fundamental skill and playing in the neutral and it's obvious. Every match is literally one of these characters, you all need to actually play your main and not some top tier character just because you are trash and need to get carried by your character. Now you're going to tell me these are your mains and your favourite characters... Where were you in MK11? These characters were barely touched in MK11, stop being goofy.

I play johnny and you can do nothing about it except take a big fat L like yo mo-

[Lendo]

Originally posted by Baby Billy:

I play as baraka but choose to use shujinko as a kameo bc Baraka is finally good in an MK game. Been maining him since the beginning so it's a shock that he's finally top tier (and good in the story).

hitting b3 and watch as a 10 hit move goes

[RigoTheViper]

well in my defense ive always been a raiden main since mk9 and i always loved the character and i still mained him even tho he was kinda ass on mk11 but ever since mk1 im seeing alot of trend hoppers and ppl who all of a sudden love and main raiden which is annoying cuz where was that hype on the other games? ppl just want easy wins but even if they nerf raiden ima still main him and then watch everyone switch off of raiden

[Kolumbo]

lmao including *Rain* makes this extra funny. Wtf is so bad about Rain?

[SrCalavera94]

bro is getting chipped out and he dosent like it. lol.

[Grim_Hyper]

Originally posted by KripTed:

Originally posted by aznqueen:

Yeah those things exists but they're not that common. It's really not that big of a deal. At the highest levels one button motion inputs won't help you because if you're relying on that your game sense and everything else is probably terrible. Now Daigo using macros is a different matter, but any respectable player -- ie. anyone who has been to a local in their life -- 99.999% isn't using cheats.

You’d be surprised how effective these scripts/macros are. Especially after you lose your Kombo Breaker and you’re pinned in the corner. Sure there are ways to counter it. These users are pretty common. More than you think. They been around since MK9. You can usually tell by their play style.

you're delusional lol. i got over 100 hours and haven't seen anyone i'd suspect of using cheats. You're just bad.
Also Baraka and Raiden don't need nerfs lol. Raiden is super reactable, Baraka has no mix-ups. People just gotta learn the game.

[Cpt Obvious]

Partially correct but Rain wtf? The Baraka/cyrax are the peak sweaters though.