How do you beat Raiden?

[xXMLGDOODXx]

I'm seriously at a loss. It seems like everything he does that can mix you up is safe on block. The overhead may not lead to combos, but it comes out as fast as it does and puts him at a distance you can't punish. His double (or triple) low doesn't seem to be punishable, either. Even his Down+1 seems to put him at a safe distance to not be able to be counter-poked? Maybe I'm just schizo about that last one, but I dunno.

[An R Key5993]

In my experience for Raiden blow low and poke with low kicks/sweeps. Most Raidens play super aggressive and because of this if you get them on the defensive (again MOST) won't know how to play the footsie/defense game. I do sympathize though that most of Raidens setups are very safe but in my experience his only overhead combo starter is very telegraphed so better to block low and be safe then get combo'd from his double low.

[Erognom△]

Originally posted by xXMLGDOODXx:

I'm seriously at a loss. It seems like everything he does that can mix you up is safe on block. The overhead may not lead to combos, but it comes out as fast as it does and puts him at a distance you can't punish. His double (or triple) low doesn't seem to be punishable, either. Even his Down+1 seems to put him at a safe distance to not be able to be counter-poked? Maybe I'm just schizo about that last one, but I dunno.

Sounds like skill issue

[Frank Knowhere]

Originally posted by Erognom✙:

Originally posted by xXMLGDOODXx:

I'm seriously at a loss. It seems like everything he does that can mix you up is safe on block. The overhead may not lead to combos, but it comes out as fast as it does and puts him at a distance you can't punish. His double (or triple) low doesn't seem to be punishable, either. Even his Down+1 seems to put him at a safe distance to not be able to be counter-poked? Maybe I'm just schizo about that last one, but I dunno.

Sounds like skill issue

I mean, he did ask how do you beat him lmaoo

[OhhShieda]

Poke him out. Gotta be patient. Zoning annoys them usually too if they are hard aggression

[MARS]

he does not have real mix up, block low and eat overhead occasionally better than to let him get the low started, if you block the d1 you don't have to punish with d1 as well, they are -8 in this game so you can do a full punish depending on your character.
if he goes for f3 4 string, you can poke him out of it after the first attack.
if he goes for that long 2421 string it is fully punishable, and they probably cancelled it into a special which is also punishable.
if you have projectile you can bait out the teleport or bf3 and make them pay for it.
if they abuse jax unblockable set up, delay your wake up or use an armored wake up.
hope this helps
oh also you can counter poke with d3 or 4 which have longer range usually

[Frank Knowhere]

Originally posted by MARS:

he does not have real mix up, block low and eat overhead occasionally better than to let him get the low started, if you block the d1 you don't have to punish with d1 as well, they are -8 in this game so you can do a full punish depending on your character.
if he goes for f3 4 string, you can poke him out of it after the first attack.
if he goes for that long 2421 string it is fully punishable, and they probably cancelled it into a special which is also punishable.
if you have projectile you can bait out the teleport or bf3 and make them pay for it.
if they abuse jax unblockable set up, delay your wake up or use an armored wake up.
hope this helps
oh also you can counter poke with d3 or 4 which have longer range usually

I agree, but with the constant bad connection, even the moves with not great frames
become a lot more real, and 1 opening is all it takes for 50%, that's still the issue at hand.
Smoke does the same nonsense, but at higher ping, it gets old.

[Erognom△]

Originally posted by Frank Knowhere:

Originally posted by Erognom✙:

Sounds like skill issue

I mean, he did ask how do you beat him lmaoo

Dude below already explained how to beat him. Smoke and Baraka (with Cyrax) are more annoying tbh

[Erognom△]

Originally posted by OhhShieda:

Poke him out. Gotta be patient. Zoning annoys them usually too if they are hard aggression

Zoning won't help, Raiden has teleport

[Frank Knowhere]

Originally posted by Erognom✙:

Originally posted by OhhShieda:

Poke him out. Gotta be patient. Zoning annoys them usually too if they are hard aggression

Zoning won't help, Raiden has teleport

And can also zone lmaoo