This game has a problem MK11 didn't

[Dwonk The Ronk Jonkson]

First off, General Shao FTW.

Before anyone says git gud, I'm winning 80% of these matches. This is not a salt post. It's more a boredom/disappointment post hoping to create a discussion not just a OPOPOPOPOPOPOPOP NERFNERFNERFNERF URBAD etc

Is anyone else already getting kind of bored of online play? I've noticed that I almost exclusively play against Raiden/Sareena. I'm well aware that there's always going to be a meta (after all, who doesn't like winning?) but I feel like I'm seeing people bandwagon the meta of this game WAYYYYYY harder than previous MK games, particularly 11. To this day, people play a pretty diverse cast online. This game...not so much. Release day had people playing tons of cool characters and I loved playing against X character for the first time but it seems most players have already conceded and simply picked what people are saying is best rn.

It's also primarily bad players who fish for the same cartwheel kick combo that can be blocked so easily which is where Sareena saves him. I don't even think the 40% combo makes Raiden a problem, I think it would be good to scale combo damage as a whole down because as it stands, we're going down the MKX route which is footsies until someone whiffs followed by a huge % cutscene-length combo.
I was against the Kameo system the second I saw it in trailers but its grown on me a little. That said, it definitely needs tweaking because really only 2 or 3 are viable right now. The rest feel useless (feel free to call me wrong on this point, though, the game is still very new) which especially sucks as someone who wants to be a Goro/Shao player (would love some tips if you know this combo but I don't think it's very good)
Oh yeah, and these raiden players are the most toxic out of any I play against lol. Only rivaled by Sub Zero players (I'm talking teabagging/fatalities on the first set of kombat league matches etc)

What have your experiences been so far? Are you guys getting to play against a variety of characters or are you also locked into a one-trick matchmaking loop? Genuinely curious

[WT_Neptune]

Most of us aren't getting into matches period

[Dwonk The Ronk Jonkson]

Originally posted by WT_Neptune:

Most of us aren't getting into matches period

I was reading the post you made earlier when I got the notification for your comment here lol. Sad to hear that boyo. I usually have terrible luck with tech even as a comp sci guy. Shocked that this game works with no issues for me somehow.

[SH41TAN]

Raiden-Smoke-Raiden-Smoke-Raiden-Smoke. Its like theres only 2 characters in this game and only Sareena kameo, lol.

[㉑ Matt]

This roster is objectively bad and is missing Sonya, Jax, Noob, Kano, etc.
No one cares about the PS2 characters. People will only play Johnny, Raiden, Ninjas, and Mileena with the Kameo that is on Meta, that's why you basically only see Sareena, Jax, and sometimes Frost.

Other characters that are not part of those popular picks and are not PS2 originals, most likely lost their identity like Sindel, Shao, Liu, Rain, Tanya, etc.

All of this makes people rely on the most OP duo they can find like Smoke/Sareena or Raiden/Jax.

[Dwonk The Ronk Jonkson]

Originally posted by Hans ✙:

Raiden-Smoke-Raiden-Smoke-Raiden-Smoke. Its like theres only 2 characters in this game and only Sareena kameo, lol.

Yeah....I was hyped for smoke from day 1. I started playing him the second the game launched but was turned off by how easily I was winning before even hitting up practice mode or playing against AI so I switched. He's so cool but it looks like I'm sadly going to be avoiding him for the same reasons I avoided Sub Zero (who I wanted to play) in MK11.

If they nerf sareena I'm calling it now, frost is the next most popular kameo. 100%

[๖คፈɬเς Ꮄน∂Ꮛ]

Your character can't do a 50% combo and Raiden can do a 98% combo so it's bad.

[Goku]

it's the input delay and removal of the defense features from mk11 that make this game an issue for me it just feels so weird to control compared to mk11

[Dwonk The Ronk Jonkson]

Originally posted by ㉑ Matt:

This roster is objectively bad and is missing Sonya, Jax, Noob, Kano, etc.
No one cares about the PS2 characters. People will only play Johnny, Raiden, Ninjas, and Mileena with the Kameo that is on Meta, that's why you basically only see Sareena, Jax, and sometimes Frost.

Other characters that are not part of those popular picks and are not PS2 originals, most likely lost their identity like Sindel, Shao, Liu, Rain, Tanya, etc.

All of this makes people rely on the most OP duo they can find like Smoke/Sareena or Raiden/Jax.

If you play the story, you'll understand better why some of the characters you listed aren't present. I think with time we'll see people pick up the PS2 characters. Personally I'm really excited to try out Havik and Reiko. Right now I'm maining Shao.

The roster is far from perfect but I've tested out tons of them in the training and personally I've found nearly every character to have SOMETHING going for them that I like which was not the case for MKX or MK11 for me. That's just me tho

[Realigo Actual]

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nobody could have known!

any of this!

[Dwonk The Ronk Jonkson]

Originally posted by Actual Sprinkle Taters:

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nobody could have known!

any of this!

Not an educational post. I'm asking what your experience is online. My friends are not playing against exclusively meta players like I am. Idk if it's luck or matchmaking because I've played much more ranked than them.

[㉑ Matt]

Originally posted by Dwonk The Ronk Jonkson:

Originally posted by ㉑ Matt:

This roster is objectively bad and is missing Sonya, Jax, Noob, Kano, etc.
No one cares about the PS2 characters. People will only play Johnny, Raiden, Ninjas, and Mileena with the Kameo that is on Meta, that's why you basically only see Sareena, Jax, and sometimes Frost.

Other characters that are not part of those popular picks and are not PS2 originals, most likely lost their identity like Sindel, Shao, Liu, Rain, Tanya, etc.

All of this makes people rely on the most OP duo they can find like Smoke/Sareena or Raiden/Jax.

If you play the story, you'll understand better why some of the characters you listed aren't present. I think with time we'll see people pick up the PS2 characters. Personally I'm really excited to try out Havik and Reiko. Right now I'm maining Shao.

The roster is far from perfect but I've tested out tons of them in the training and personally I've found nearly every character to have SOMETHING going for them that I like which was not the case for MKX or MK11 for me. That's just me tho

I know, I played the story mode, but that's just a bad excuse, the story is not created by a big bang like the intro, this is not Liu Kang's reality. The writer could easily have the classic missing character if they want LOL
Did you play the story? Why Geras is playable? They can insert any character in story mode that's not the problem, they can even be NPCs and make them playable, who cares?

This is a fighting game and a fighting game needs popular and classic fighters to pick, this roster is full of characters that 90% of players don't care or don't know yet and NRS didn't make them appealing, they are all bland versions of the missing characters. You don't like Sonya? Here is the Asian Sonya aka Li Mei. Don't like Jax as a grappler? Don't worry, the ultimate jobber Reiko is here!!! (Even if neither Li Mei or Reiko play as their ps2 versions.)

Look at the character select screen, imagine a casual looking at this roster and thinking "wtf is Ashrah."

[Funpire]

I refuse to play MP. Lol.

[Realigo Actual]

Have not played online on PC yet, have on PS5. Have noticed favoured picks. It was same in MK11, but I think kameo doesn't help. More tech discovery might help.

[Wolf]

Just one of the many reasons why people aren’t buying this game. I give it a couple of weeks before the player count numbers reach as low as 1-2k if it had cross play it could of had a chance but people are going to lose interest very quickly.

[Clamcumber]

Originally posted by ㉑ Matt:

Originally posted by Dwonk The Ronk Jonkson:

If you play the story, you'll understand better why some of the characters you listed aren't present. I think with time we'll see people pick up the PS2 characters. Personally I'm really excited to try out Havik and Reiko. Right now I'm maining Shao.

The roster is far from perfect but I've tested out tons of them in the training and personally I've found nearly every character to have SOMETHING going for them that I like which was not the case for MKX or MK11 for me. That's just me tho

I know, I played the story mode, but that's just a bad excuse, the story is not created by a big bang like the intro, this is not Liu Kang's reality. The writer could easily have the classic missing character if they want LOL
Did you play the story? Why Geras is playable? They can insert any character in story mode that's not the problem, they can even be NPCs and make them playable, who cares?

This is a fighting game and a fighting game needs popular and classic fighters to pick, this roster is full of characters that 90% of players don't care or don't know yet and NRS didn't make them appealing, they are all bland versions of the missing characters. You don't like Sonya? Here is the Asian Sonya aka Li Mei. Don't like Jax as a grappler? Don't worry, the ultimate jobber Reiko is here!!! (Even if neither Li Mei or Reiko play as their ps2 versions.)

Look at the character select screen, imagine a casual looking at this roster and thinking "wtf is Ashrah."

Uh, people have been asking for the 3D era characters back since MKX. Your opinion is in the minority for sure. It's nice to see Sonya, Jax and Kano sit out. I can't even believe you seriously think this.