It's funny how Nitara is the only one that looks like a woman

[Kojo]

All the other ''chicks'' are ugly as hell wtf. Tanya looks like Mike Tyson and Kitana like Jet Li LOL

Lads on this post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jELlbJLx1XQ

[Dwonk The Ronk Jonkson]

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"First tanya isn't a tribal berserker, she's [same exact thing]"
Second, again, look at the male voice actors lmao. Last time I checked, Steve Blum isn't Asian and yet the character he voice in MK11, Sub-Zero is. He looks nothing like him. Idk about you but I loved Steve Blum as Sub. What is the point of video games and 3D modeling if we're just going to use an actor's face as is? That's beyond silly. What is a stereotyped African warrior? Explain that to me.

"Me as an Asian can tell you that, Quynh-chi Nguyen, the face model of Kitana and Mileena, has the appearance that fit the look of a royalty/upper-class well."
Their mother quite literally uses her hair as a weapon. On top of this, you're now going with the "NOT REALISTIC ENOUGH" argument while crying about them making the women look realistic. Pick a side, please. Be consistent.

"wanting the characters to look like their actual face models is "having ridiculous beauty standards"?"
They literally do look like their face models with minor changes made. The pictures you compared them to side by side are their professional headshots. You know...the ones that are caked in makeup, photoshopped, and professionally lit lol. If you look at the actors' pages on IMDB, the ones that did work that called for a more "dressed down" look resemble their MK characters most.

"the overcorrection done by you folks"
overcorrection is when no beach ball tits / makeup in multiverse war fighting game :(

"The Tarkatans, good example of the game "objectifying" patients into a spiky mutant you've given."
I think you should look up the definition of that word. This point made no sense.

Whoa, you think a combat priestess is the same as a tribal warrior? You called my comment a bait, yet you sound more like a troll yourself.

This is showing your ignorance. Sub-zero's face model is Tony Chung. And Steve Blum is Sub-zero's voice actor. While in Dying Light 2, Rosario Dawson is both the face model and the voice actor of Lawan. That's why I use "face model/voice actor" in that paragraph. Don't try to mess with and twist the words, it's naive. What's a stereotyped african warrior? Those Wakanda soldiers in Black Panther is an example.

"overcorrection is when no beach ball tits / makeup in multiverse war fighting game"
I have always been consistent about wanting character's appearances to look like their face models' which the game didn't achieve. And I've made it clear that I don't prefer to have those DoA style characters. Your arguement be like "women in MK1 look more realistic than actual human in reality and noone can question about it".

Lmao, changing one's cheek bone, chin bone and mouth shape completely is "minor change", really? Do yourself a favor, find a picture of Sydney Cross and a picture of MK1 Tanya then compare their facial features. You'll see they look nothing alike, unless you lie to yourself.

According to cambridge dictionary, "objectification" means "treating ppl like tools or toys as if they had no feelings, opinions or rights of their own". So by that definition the Tarkatans are being objectified in this game that you get to see Shang Tsung experimenting on Tarkatans and ripping Tarkatan clones into pieces as Baraka as if they are just dolls. And my point is if this is acceptable, what makes wanting characters to look as normal as their real life face models unreasonable and unacceptable?

My man, if you ask anyone if she looks like a "combat priestess" they will say yes. If you ask if she looks like a tribal berserker, they will also say yes. They're pretty loose terms.

"This is showing your ignorance. Sub-zero's face model is Tony Chung. And Steve Blum is Sub-zero's voice actor."
So...the voice actor DOESN'T need to look like the character then :) sounds like we're on the same page then. Chung is a reference and they changed some of his features. No complaints here.

"What's a stereotyped african warrior? Those Wakanda soldiers in Black Panther is an example."
What a strange thing to say

"I have always been consistent about wanting character's appearances to look like their face models' which the game didn't achieve."
It sounds like you'd like watching movies more than videogames. Did you cry when the chicken in Moana looked nothing like Alan Tudyk? This complaint makes no sense lol. The entire point of the medium is flexibility to change things and play with designs.

"Your arguement be like "women in MK1 look more realistic than actual human in reality and noone can question about it"."
Where did I say this? I said that the women in MK1 are simply an accurate representation of what women with this kind of strength would look like. They're not caked in makeup and they have strong features. Pretty straightforward.

"Lmao, changing one's cheek bone, chin bone and mouth shape completely is "minor change", really?"
Yes. Slightly adjusting facial features to give new subtle pushes is a minor change.

"Do yourself a favor, find a picture of Sydney Cross and a picture of MK1 Tanya then compare their facial features. You'll see they look nothing alike"
They quite literally look alike if you don't rely entirely on highly edited headshots/glamour shots of her :)

"According to cambridge dictionary,"
I love this because you're still completely wrong. Sexual objectification is the topic my man.

All in all, we can argue for weeks, it doesn't change the fact that you're mad at something 99.99999% of people do not give a ♥♥♥♥ about. If a lack of fap material is your biggest gripe with MK1, I guess the game must be pretty good :)

[Cpt Obvious]

Why does this dork keep changing his cringy profile pic/user name? Is he larping Shang Tsung or something lol?

[Kojo]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez JustAnotherDavid:

Is that a threat? Wow, dude went on another level hahahahaha.

Proceeds to change his pfp three times after being dogged for using anime, goes on peoples' profiles and tries to attack them there instead

Define "triggered".

Also, this entire thread boils down to...

- Tin-hat conspiracy theories on the "uglification of women"

- I bought this game for the masturbation material

- I am angry that NRS did not concede to my warped beauty standards. 30 year old single balding "gamer" called Frank from Nebraska proceeds to write a twitlonger no one will pay mind to but they should because he's Frank, top of the fast-food chain. Here's my credentials and here's why my outliers of studio photoshoots make my point valid!

They look like women.

Sindel and Li-Mei look amazing. Kitana and Mileena actually reflect their ethnicity. Megan Fox- Sorry, Nitara, looks like a caked up plastic doll. Even the mocap on her facial animations look plastic and unnatural (go into Customisation and hover over Nitara for a minute. I guarantee you'll feel slight unnerving at how odd it is).

It's clear as day that capitalism has ruined young men; you bring the beauty standards down to realistic portrayals and you ruin their gooning sessions.

It sucks to be you, criticizing capitalism while using and abusing it. But your opinion to me is like a cent, in the end it doesn’t have any impact on my life. Have a good day mam

[Narky]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Tom Sawyer:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Black Magic:

Proceeds to change his pfp three times after being dogged for using anime, goes on peoples' profiles and tries to attack them there instead

Define "triggered".

Also, this entire thread boils down to...

- Tin-hat conspiracy theories on the "uglification of women"

- I bought this game for the masturbation material

- I am angry that NRS did not concede to my warped beauty standards. 30 year old single balding "gamer" called Frank from Nebraska proceeds to write a twitlonger no one will pay mind to but they should because he's Frank, top of the fast-food chain. Here's my credentials and here's why my outliers of studio photoshoots make my point valid!

They look like women.

Sindel and Li-Mei look amazing. Kitana and Mileena actually reflect their ethnicity. Megan Fox- Sorry, Nitara, looks like a caked up plastic doll. Even the mocap on her facial animations look plastic and unnatural (go into Customisation and hover over Nitara for a minute. I guarantee you'll feel slight unnerving at how odd it is).

It's clear as day that capitalism has ruined young men; you bring the beauty standards down to realistic portrayals and you ruin their gooning sessions.

It sucks to be you, criticizing capitalism while using and abusing it. But your opinion to me is like a cent, in the end it doesn’t have any impact on my life. Have a good day mam

Am I supposed to care?

[5.JgKp | Nevarin]

just get virt a mate and fap away. Its even cheaper.

[MachinaHyena]

Początkowo opublikowane przez 5.JgKp | Nevarin:

just get virt a mate and fap away. Its even cheaper.

Would you offer the same advice to someone who wants hotter men?

[Jelqing Jutsu]

Why don't you go play MK9 and stop crying then

[Zab G]

I think it's basically because female idealism has shifted in the US. They do not like pretty women anymore. They like Dudes with plastic boobee and ugly girlbosses of outworld :D Sorry guys...I don't like them either in this game. 50% are gay and the other 50 made ugly.....but not that big of a deal at all. Just still waiting for the krypt and kameos to be gone.

[151]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dwonk The Ronk Jonkson:

My man, if you ask anyone if she looks like a "combat priestess" they will say yes. If you ask if she looks like a tribal berserker, they will also say yes. They're pretty loose terms.

"This is showing your ignorance. Sub-zero's face model is Tony Chung. And Steve Blum is Sub-zero's voice actor."
So...the voice actor DOESN'T need to look like the character then :) sounds like we're on the same page then. Chung is a reference and they changed some of his features. No complaints here.

"What's a stereotyped african warrior? Those Wakanda soldiers in Black Panther is an example."
What a strange thing to say

"I have always been consistent about wanting character's appearances to look like their face models' which the game didn't achieve."
It sounds like you'd like watching movies more than videogames. Did you cry when the chicken in Moana looked nothing like Alan Tudyk? This complaint makes no sense lol. The entire point of the medium is flexibility to change things and play with designs.

"Your arguement be like "women in MK1 look more realistic than actual human in reality and noone can question about it"."
Where did I say this? I said that the women in MK1 are simply an accurate representation of what women with this kind of strength would look like. They're not caked in makeup and they have strong features. Pretty straightforward.

"Lmao, changing one's cheek bone, chin bone and mouth shape completely is "minor change", really?"
Yes. Slightly adjusting facial features to give new subtle pushes is a minor change.

"Do yourself a favor, find a picture of Sydney Cross and a picture of MK1 Tanya then compare their facial features. You'll see they look nothing alike"
They quite literally look alike if you don't rely entirely on highly edited headshots/glamour shots of her :)

"According to cambridge dictionary,"
I love this because you're still completely wrong. Sexual objectification is the topic my man.

All in all, we can argue for weeks, it doesn't change the fact that you're mad at something 99.99999% of people do not give a ♥♥♥♥ about. If a lack of fap material is your biggest gripe with MK1, I guess the game must be pretty good :)

Lmfao, you are making no point at all but playing with words now.

Początkowo opublikowane przez 151:

Uglifying female characters is what Western game developers have been doing in these few years, like Lawan in Dying Lights and Alloy in Horizon Zero Dawn, etc, to prevent being accused of "objectifying women" by feminist groups. If you are justifying such act, then clearly you are not respecting the face models/voice actors just like those game developers.

Początkowo opublikowane przez 151:

And this ugify issue is exclusive to the female characters. Kenshi has the same facial details as Noah Fleder and Kuai-liang basically look the same as Tony Chung.

I guess you lack the skill to comprehend that the subject I was talking about when I use the word "face model/voice actor", is Western game devs' uglification of female characters. And clearly you pretend to blind when I told you that Tong Chung is Sub-zero's face model in MK11, not Steve Blum. You are not telling that you don't know Kuai-liang was Sub-zero in Mk11, are you?

Again, the question again is, what's so nonsense about wanting characters to actually look like their face models? You have never answered this. All you talk about is that "fap material" bullcrap, which I have stated clearly that I oppose having the Dead or Alive style female character design in my very first comment in this post. You are the one who's been having porn and sex all over your brain.

Początkowo opublikowane przez 151:

People aren't here asking for characters to have anime faces and Kim Kadarshian body shapes like that in DoA. They just want the characters to look normal instead of having the characters uglified to have prognathic faces.

"women in MK1 are simply an accurate representation of what women with this kind of strength would look like. They're not caked in makeup and they have strong features"
You are the one who is stereotyping on the look of women, just like the way you and that Black Magic guy stereotyping on African and Asian people. Who says a woman that can fight must have ferocious face?

"They quite literally look alike if you don't rely entirely on highly edited headshots/glamour shots of her"
You are implying that Sydney Cross and Quynh-chi Nguyen look gorgeous just because of the photoshop editting? Then you are proving me right again, you are disrespecting the face models just like the game developers these days.

"Sexual objectification is the topic my man."
Looks like in your mind, there's no form of objectification other than sexual objectification.

"if you ask anyone if she looks like a "combat priestess" they will say yes. If you ask if she looks like a tribal berserker, they will also say yes"
"Yes. Slightly adjusting facial features to give new subtle pushes is a minor change."
I guess you come a place where stereotype is reality, a complete change of skull bones is minor, arrogance is respect, war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.

[Dwonk The Ronk Jonkson]

Początkowo opublikowane przez MonkeyBone:

Początkowo opublikowane przez 5.JgKp | Nevarin:

just get virt a mate and fap away. Its even cheaper.

Would you offer the same advice to someone who wants hotter men?

yes

[MachinaHyena]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dwonk The Ronk Jonkson:

Początkowo opublikowane przez MonkeyBone:

Would you offer the same advice to someone who wants hotter men?

yes

Then your standards are too low.

[Dwonk The Ronk Jonkson]

Początkowo opublikowane przez 151:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dwonk The Ronk Jonkson:

My man, if you ask anyone if she looks like a "combat priestess" they will say yes. If you ask if she looks like a tribal berserker, they will also say yes. They're pretty loose terms.

"This is showing your ignorance. Sub-zero's face model is Tony Chung. And Steve Blum is Sub-zero's voice actor."
So...the voice actor DOESN'T need to look like the character then :) sounds like we're on the same page then. Chung is a reference and they changed some of his features. No complaints here.

"What's a stereotyped african warrior? Those Wakanda soldiers in Black Panther is an example."
What a strange thing to say

"I have always been consistent about wanting character's appearances to look like their face models' which the game didn't achieve."
It sounds like you'd like watching movies more than videogames. Did you cry when the chicken in Moana looked nothing like Alan Tudyk? This complaint makes no sense lol. The entire point of the medium is flexibility to change things and play with designs.

"Your arguement be like "women in MK1 look more realistic than actual human in reality and noone can question about it"."
Where did I say this? I said that the women in MK1 are simply an accurate representation of what women with this kind of strength would look like. They're not caked in makeup and they have strong features. Pretty straightforward.

"Lmao, changing one's cheek bone, chin bone and mouth shape completely is "minor change", really?"
Yes. Slightly adjusting facial features to give new subtle pushes is a minor change.

"Do yourself a favor, find a picture of Sydney Cross and a picture of MK1 Tanya then compare their facial features. You'll see they look nothing alike"
They quite literally look alike if you don't rely entirely on highly edited headshots/glamour shots of her :)

"According to cambridge dictionary,"
I love this because you're still completely wrong. Sexual objectification is the topic my man.

All in all, we can argue for weeks, it doesn't change the fact that you're mad at something 99.99999% of people do not give a ♥♥♥♥ about. If a lack of fap material is your biggest gripe with MK1, I guess the game must be pretty good :)

Lmfao, you are making no point at all but playing with words now.

Początkowo opublikowane przez 151:

Uglifying female characters is what Western game developers have been doing in these few years, like Lawan in Dying Lights and Alloy in Horizon Zero Dawn, etc, to prevent being accused of "objectifying women" by feminist groups. If you are justifying such act, then clearly you are not respecting the face models/voice actors just like those game developers.

Początkowo opublikowane przez 151:

And this ugify issue is exclusive to the female characters. Kenshi has the same facial details as Noah Fleder and Kuai-liang basically look the same as Tony Chung.

I guess you lack the skill to comprehend that the subject I was talking about when I use the word "face model/voice actor", is Western game devs' uglification of female characters. And clearly you pretend to blind when I told you that Tong Chung is Sub-zero's face model in MK11, not Steve Blum. You are not telling that you don't know Kuai-liang was Sub-zero in Mk11, are you?

Again, the question again is, what's so nonsense about wanting characters to actually look like their face models? You have never answered this. All you talk about is that "fap material" bullcrap, which I have stated clearly that I oppose having the Dead or Alive style female character design in my very first comment in this post. You are the one who's been having porn and sex all over your brain.

Początkowo opublikowane przez 151:

People aren't here asking for characters to have anime faces and Kim Kadarshian body shapes like that in DoA. They just want the characters to look normal instead of having the characters uglified to have prognathic faces.

"women in MK1 are simply an accurate representation of what women with this kind of strength would look like. They're not caked in makeup and they have strong features"
You are the one who is stereotyping on the look of women, just like the way you and that Black Magic guy stereotyping on African and Asian people. Who says a woman that can fight must have ferocious face?

"They quite literally look alike if you don't rely entirely on highly edited headshots/glamour shots of her"
You are implying that Sydney Cross and Quynh-chi Nguyen look gorgeous just because of the photoshop editting? Then you are proving me right again, you are disrespecting the face models just like the game developers these days.

"Sexual objectification is the topic my man."
Looks like in your mind, there's no form of objectification other than sexual objectification.

"if you ask anyone if she looks like a "combat priestess" they will say yes. If you ask if she looks like a tribal berserker, they will also say yes"
"Yes. Slightly adjusting facial features to give new subtle pushes is a minor change."
I guess you come a place where stereotype is reality, a complete change of skull bones is minor, arrogance is respect, war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.

This entire redditor style essay you wrote boils down to the same logic as weirdos who during debates about racism go "you're the REAL racist for bringing up race." I have no idea what you're talking about with the african accusation and accusing me of having porn and sex on the mind in a thread whining that virtual women in a fighting game aren't sexy enough is silly.

"You are implying that Sydney Cross and Quynh-chi Nguyen look gorgeous just because of the photoshop editting?"
I don't get it, are you a virgin or something? The way women look for photo ops / special events is different from the way they look when exercising / regular day activities. Foundation, blush, eyeliner, etc. These are all things that they're wearing in those headshots. You would not fight with a full face of makeup lol.

You said I was twisting your words but it's all you seem to be doing here.

"Looks like in your mind, there's no form of objectification other than sexual objectification."
The discussion is women in videogames and their sex appeal. Are you okay?

"I guess you come a place where stereotype is reality, a complete change of skull bones is minor, arrogance is respect, war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength."
What are you even on about with this one?


At this point I'd rather invite you on stream sometime for a formal debate over a call because you're hyper-focusing on the dumbest details while whining about me supposedly doing the same. My discord is oxustudio, feel free to add me.

[Dwonk The Ronk Jonkson]

Początkowo opublikowane przez MonkeyBone:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dwonk The Ronk Jonkson:

yes

Then your standards are too low.

Or I play fighting games to watch cool characters beat each other up. My favorite part of most fighting games are the monster characters / custom characters. I don't need my games to be sexy :)

[Jelqing Jutsu]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Nvee:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Sehun Bias:

Why don't you go play MK9 and stop crying then

Because MK9 women are ugly and comical too.

So why do you need your fictional women to be bomb-shells in a fighting game?

[MachinaHyena]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dwonk The Ronk Jonkson:

Początkowo opublikowane przez MonkeyBone:

Then your standards are too low.

Or I play fighting games to watch cool characters beat each other up. My favorite part of most fighting games are the monster characters / custom characters. I don't need my games to be sexy :)

Right, low standards. You should expect your games to have cool characters, great gameplay, fantastic soundtracks, good looking chicks, and so on. Why settle for less?