MK1 Would Be Better Without Fatalities

[HighLanderPony]

It's just casual appeal. Who cares? They're a complete waste of resources and dev effort in the long run.

[Castyles]

I hope modders can find a way to remove all that loading screen crap. It's not only a total bother but both fighters look stupid af.

Fighters never looked that dumb on Injustice clashes but on MK 1 it's just pathetic.

[Tr3m0r]

Absolutely ridiculous take. MK exists today because of fatalities. Period. Save all that chocolate cake drivel. For better and or worse you play the game today only because fatalities exist. There is no giant franchise without them for the past 30 years.

[HighLanderPony]

Tr3m0r a écrit :

Absolutely ridiculous take. MK exists today because of fatalities. Period. Save all that chocolate cake drivel. For better and or worse you play the game today only because fatalities exist. There is no giant franchise without them for the past 30 years.

"Nostalgia laundering" staying in the way of improving game design.

[denisrutz]

Castyles a écrit :

They just need to be short and skippable for they're a waste of time and even patience on online.

Why would you want to end a fight with a brutal and very graphical finisher, just to skip it? - that's like diapering a baby without closing the diaper's tapes - nonsensical.

But there's an easy solution for your (self proclaimed) problem, just don't do any fatalities, if you personally think that they're a waste of time.

But like it or not the Fatalities and their unique gore factor, are indeed the thing that makes MK what MK is and stands for.

[denisrutz]

"Nostalgia laundering staying in the way of improving game design."…

How about you just admit that you have a serious problem with blood and gore, instead of beating around the bush all the time?

Because taking THAT one signature thing out that MK made MK to begin with, is definitely not "improving game design", by any means.

[Castyles]

denisrutz a écrit :

Castyles a écrit :

They just need to be short and skippable for they're a waste of time and even patience on online.

Why would you want to end a fight with a brutal and very graphical finisher, just to skip it? - that's like diapering a baby without closing the diaper's tapes - nonsensical.

But there's an easy solution for your (self proclaimed) problem, just don't do any fatalities, if you personally think that they're a waste of time.

But like it or not the Fatalities and their unique gore factor, are indeed the thing that makes MK what MK is and stands for.

It's not about me. I rarely do them online when I win. It's about the other player. If we can skip intros and outros - not anymore sadly - then we should have the option to skip finishers and specials, too.

Besides, what if NRS decides to put a fatality grind to unlock ♥♥♥♥, like in 11? Ain't nobody got time for that.

[HighLanderPony]

denisrutz a écrit :

"Nostalgia laundering staying in the way of improving game design."…

How about you just admit that you have a serious problem with blood and gore, instead of beating around the bush all the time?

Because taking THAT one signature thing out that MK made MK to begin with, is definitely not "improving game design", by any means.

How about you stop assuming things wildly? I've no problem with blood or gore but this is a feature that's gonna end up often unused and pointless a majority of the time.

If a mechanic is not used, you remove or rework the mechanic. Esp. considering how much effort it takes to keep using it.

[popsicle]

HighLanderPony a écrit :

[How about you stop assuming things wildly? I've no problem with blood or gore but this is a feature that's gonna end up often unused and pointless a majority of the time.

If a mechanic is not used, you remove or rework the mechanic. Esp. considering how much effort it takes to keep using it.

Look what taking the signature fatalities out did to MK armageddon. It ruined the game by making so many chars feel generic.

[Castyles]

popsicle a écrit :

HighLanderPony a écrit :

[How about you stop assuming things wildly? I've no problem with blood or gore but this is a feature that's gonna end up often unused and pointless a majority of the time.

If a mechanic is not used, you remove or rework the mechanic. Esp. considering how much effort it takes to keep using it.

Look what taking the signature fatalities out did to MK armageddon. It ruined the game by making so many chars feel generic.

It's because those fatalities were just lame.

Anything would be better than that lazy excuse of "rOsTeR iS wAy ToO bIg".

Even something short and simple such as, say, Motaro kicking the torso of someone so hard that it flies to oblivion while everything else is left on the floor a la Johnny Cage's MK4 fatality would be better.

And, speaking of which, that's what NRS should've done with the fatalities of MK1. It's a misuse of that "going back to simpler times" talk.

They're unable, to, though. Even if they wanted to. Spoiled the players way too much.

[Corona Scurrae]

let's not forget the poor people having to traumatize themselves by taking reference from horrible accidents and executions.

Ik for some of you terminally online users with unrestricted internet access, it's nothing but to more normal people, it's incredibly disturbing

[HighLanderPony]

ebay gc Pelopidas a écrit :

let's not forget the poor people having to traumatize themselves by taking reference from horrible accidents and executions.

Ik for some of you terminally online users with unrestricted internet access, it's nothing but to more normal people, it's incredibly disturbing

Another good point.

[Corona Scurrae]

HighLanderPony a écrit :

ebay gc Pelopidas a écrit :

let's not forget the poor people having to traumatize themselves by taking reference from horrible accidents and executions.

Ik for some of you terminally online users with unrestricted internet access, it's nothing but to more normal people, it's incredibly disturbing

Another good point.

I'm mostly interested in that. I'm not saying it shouldn't exist but people need to keep in mind that the digital artists can't imagine how spilled guts or body part damage look like, so they look up horrific accidents and executions to paint and model them.

if AI were to recreate it down the line, I don't see any issue with that but traumatizing normal functioning citizens, just so 10M can have fun? that's egregious

[HighLanderPony]

ebay gc Pelopidas a écrit :

HighLanderPony a écrit :

Another good point.

I'm mostly interested in that. I'm not saying it shouldn't exist but people need to keep in mind that the digital artists can't imagine how spilled guts or body part damage look like, so they look up horrific accidents and executions to paint and model them.

if AI were to recreate it down the line, I don't see any issue with that but traumatizing normal functioning citizens, just so 10M can have fun? that's egregious

Esp. after those 10M get bored of viewing them after 5 times or so and then Finish Him! keeps gettting followed up by simple PP jabs.

[Castyles]

ebay gc Pelopidas a écrit :

let's not forget the poor people having to traumatize themselves by taking reference from horrible accidents and executions.

Ik for some of you terminally online users with unrestricted internet access, it's nothing but to more normal people, it's incredibly disturbing

That's a good point. Here's another one, however:

The artists knew beforehand what they were getting into.

[Corona Scurrae]

HighLanderPony a écrit :

ebay gc Pelopidas a écrit :

I'm mostly interested in that. I'm not saying it shouldn't exist but people need to keep in mind that the digital artists can't imagine how spilled guts or body part damage look like, so they look up horrific accidents and executions to paint and model them.

if AI were to recreate it down the line, I don't see any issue with that but traumatizing normal functioning citizens, just so 10M can have fun? that's egregious

Esp. after those 10M get bored of viewing them after 5 times or so and then Finish Him! keeps gettting followed up by simple PP jabs.

it's definitely a tacky gimmick the devs added to differentiate themselves from the rest and as the casual crowd can be considered it works.

I remember back in highschool when injustice 2 released, I have buddies of mine who are intelligent people but they fell for the finisher moves, bought the game, did it a few times and never touched the game again...

I personally never buy games because of one gimmick and in mortal kombat's case, I rather wait until the whole package is 10 quid in a few years. I'm mostly interested in sp and couch vs.