They really made the game extremely casual

[WeebCentral]

The first game gave me some challenge here and there. This game has none, literally none. 15 hours in and I'm already capping damage at 99999 on break... Characters are below lv40 even...

Kinda sad they made the game so easy this time around.

[REhorror]

We need hard mode!

[Chadwick Strongpants]

Sounds like you followed some guide or Youtube video to make your characters overpowered like that. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Izzy]

I'm at 22 hours and level 24 and my best attacks do about 6000 damage. Not sure what you did, but it sounds more like an exploit.

[ruppe27]

If you really wanted you could just get op stuff from the beginning but that doesn't make the game easy, it just makes you lazy.
If you play the game naturally without looking anything up it has a decent challenge.
You cheese the game with guides and then complain on the forum about the difficulty, lmao.

[Serafie1999AD]

Originally posted by Izzy:

I'm at 22 hours and level 24 and my best attacks do about 6000 damage. Not sure what you did, but it sounds more like an exploit.

What builds are you using? My characters are level 20-30, and the best I've been able to do in a boss fight is about 2000 damage, and this was on a broken enemy with a max boosted elemental spell with Advanced Magic, Magic Up and elemental attack boosting passives. I don't have Divine Skills yet, as it takes a while to grind 5000 JP.

[Beeps]

Hired Help at 7K leaves does about 4K per hit to broken bosses in CH2, so everyone should be seeing at least that.

Beyond that, your best non-divine options for dealing damage are Enervating Slash, Surprise Attack, and Poison Axe/whatever the Hunter axe skill is. Especially the last two because it is really easy to get good axes early on. Max boost phys atk buffed Poison Axe does about 3.5K to non-debuffed CH2 bosses for me.

[dustin1280]

Originally posted by Copper Knight:

Sounds like you followed some guide or Youtube video to make your characters overpowered like that. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Most likely this....
It's easy to break octopath games if you use certain builds or techniques. Regardless if it's octo 1 or 2.

[WeebCentral]

Originally posted by Copper Knight:

Sounds like you followed some guide or Youtube video to make your characters overpowered like that. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Lol you don't need a guide to get strong. You just need to explore each area. You don't need to try in this game and it doesn't need a guide, cause everything is pretty much shown on your map. If you steal/inquire/mug in each town you're all good to go. Which wasn't the case in the first one.


[EDIT] If people want to know a quick run down on how I played:
- Did the first chapter for Throné
- Found Inventor right outside of the area I started in
- Went to collect all 8 characters
- Ran into a few octopuffs in Agneas area and they didn't run. So I had enough job points to get Temenos Evil ward and Agneas Evasive meneuvres.
- Went back to the inventor to see if I had any of the items needed, which I did. To get elemental bomb
- Started to explore the lv45 areas cause aparently evil ward just gives you straight up 100% escape rate
- Found a wand that boosts e.atk and speed bring Osvald to 600 e.atk and 300 speed. Could mug pretty much everything up to 6stars
- After provoking/mugging/inquiring everyone in each town I entered I ended up with a battle tested weapon, which is part of the strongest line up of weapons of the first game, so I'm assuming it's the same for this one.
- Started entering dungeons just killing everything I ran into and fighting bosses.
- Did more exploring and was finally high enough to ambush a dude infront of a house and... I unlocked armsmaster... Had like 4 rusty weapons at this point so Throné started to destroy the existence of everything in the game.

[Crystal1501]

Tbh that's kind of cheap... you grind for JP, run away from everything in areas too high level for you, unlock an overpowered secondary job, then complain the game is too easy? OF COURSE IT WOULD BE TOO EASY!

Originally posted by ruppe27:

If you really wanted you could just get op stuff from the beginning but that doesn't make the game easy, it just makes you lazy.
If you play the game naturally without looking anything up it has a decent challenge.
You cheese the game with guides and then complain on the forum about the difficulty, lmao.

Exactly this! Ok, you didn't look up a guide, but otherwise, exactly this!

[/^^\461|[ 834||]

I got very bored of this game and haven#t bothered to pick it back up again mostly for this reason.

30 hours in, zero deaths, zero challenge, and where are the real dungeons? They're simply far too casual to then go to a long badly written cut scene then rinse and repeat to the next disjointed story line.

Seriously, how the hell did this game get overwhelmingly positive reviews? That art is good. That's it. Everything else is mediocre af

And I didn't grind either I just went from quest marker to quest marker

[Crystal1501]

Originally posted by /^^\461| 834|_|_:

And I didn't grind either I just went from quest marker to quest marker

I did the same thing and have been struggling pretty much all game... did you get overpowered weapons at the start?

[/^^\461|[ 834||]

Originally posted by Crystal1501:

Originally posted by /^^\461| 834|_|_:

And I didn't grind either I just went from quest marker to quest marker

I did the same thing and have been struggling pretty much all game... did you get overpowered weapons at the start?

Nope, I really can't understand how anyone could struggle with this game. Maybe it's just because I've played these types of games for 25 years and this has way too many mechanics to easily exploit. Like I've pretty much ran through the whole game without enemies getting a chance to hit me just from breaking them. Bosses have some feedback at least but it doesn't take long to understand their loop and what you're supposed to do.

I really want big long dungeons that might take a long time to get to the next save point. Something to reinforce survival and immersion. But yeah, I'm getting good gear and I don't even equip it because feel it will make me too strong. I've done most of the Chapters at the recommended level because I feel the games streamlined that way. I'm hoping 50 hours in there will be a difficulty spike or dungeons get longer because I'm so bored of playing this. It's like 75% cut scenes

[AerialComb]

Originally posted by cantseeshit:

Originally posted by Copper Knight:

Sounds like you followed some guide or Youtube video to make your characters overpowered like that. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Lol you don't need a guide to get strong. You just need to explore each area. You don't need to try in this game and it doesn't need a guide, cause everything is pretty much shown on your map. If you steal/inquire/mug in each town you're all good to go. Which wasn't the case in the first one.


[EDIT] If people want to know a quick run down on how I played:
- Did the first chapter for Throné
- Found Inventor right outside of the area I started in
- Went to collect all 8 characters
- Ran into a few octopuffs in Agneas area and they didn't run. So I had enough job points to get Temenos Evil ward and Agneas Evasive meneuvres.
- Went back to the inventor to see if I had any of the items needed, which I did. To get elemental bomb
- Started to explore the lv45 areas cause aparently evil ward just gives you straight up 100% escape rate
- Found a wand that boosts e.atk and speed bring Osvald to 600 e.atk and 300 speed. Could mug pretty much everything up to 6stars
- After provoking/mugging/inquiring everyone in each town I entered I ended up with a battle tested weapon, which is part of the strongest line up of weapons of the first game, so I'm assuming it's the same for this one.
- Started entering dungeons just killing everything I ran into and fighting bosses.
- Did more exploring and was finally high enough to ambush a dude infront of a house and... I unlocked armsmaster... Had like 4 rusty weapons at this point so Throné started to destroy the existence of everything in the game.

Lol i think you are liying, to said you have done all that in only 15 hours, you obviously played more than that or cheated somehow. Battles take a lot of time sometimes and to say you had 4 rusty weapons it meant you already had explore a lot of the world and knew exactly where they were. Besides to Mug, steal, or get good stuff with Agnea you really need high level. Also, your claim that doing 99,999 dmg I call BS, I have Hikari with 800 Attack and after applying buff and debuff on enemy the most I have done with him with his EX skill is around 70,000 DMG.

Besides your obvious lying I AGREE with what you said about the game been easier, one of the things that put me off of the last game was the difficulty spikes it had specially on bosses. In this one with the right skill set you can oblitarate any boss and become OP fairly quickly. On my 30 hour mark I was pretty much killing any boss fairly easily, even last bosses. Only took one or two shots from Hikari EX skill to kill final bosses.

[Natzor]

Originally posted by AerialComb:

Besides to Mug, steal, or get good stuff with Agnea you really need high level.

You don't need high levels to mug people for good items, you just need a good enough setup and gear to beat the NPC's (Those with 6 'Stars' actually only have around 8-10k HP, with the maxed out 10 'stars' being about 33-35K HP maximum, so with first step and boost start you could realistically use Hired Help and Beastling, assuming they don't have more than 4 shield points to deal enough damage and break them), keep in mind that both Temenos and Osvald's Night time actions don't hurt reputation so you could easily abuse this by having temenos reveal the weak points and using Inns to restore HP & Latent powers (I even managed to cheese some higher ranked NPC's who had low shield points with temenos latent for the info/using specific elemental resistances from items that you get much later in the game if you follow it as 'intended') and then using that with Osvald to take their items. If we are talking about Ambush/Aqquire then yes you do need higher levels (but you can replace that with Concoct from Cassti if you don't mind burning some limited items as far as I know, and mugging during nighttime)
I agree that the game itself is not very difficult if you know how to exploit it, but Octo 1 is not much different, but requires a bit more effort into getting the end game setups earlier since you have more super bosses you need to beat (but is still very much doable if you know what you are doing), but then again, some older RPG's are not really that different (looking at you Final Fantasy/Bravely Default Series), but then you gotta ask yourself, are you looking for a difficult RPG with good balance or are you looking to enjoy having fun by doing broken stuff? Some People love FFVII for example but that game very much have ridiculously broken things you can do and while it does probably take until disc 2 to start abusing such things, they very much exist to shave off any difficulty the game might throw at you, even some superbosses have oddball setups that you can use to essentially get a 'free win'