Ques. about NSFW configuration options

[bumbling_bea]

I'm super interested in this game, but in the description it says it contains non-consensual sex. Is there a config option where you can opt out of any non-con encounters, like in Carnal Instinct? Or is it unavoidable?

[Akita Neru]

as far as I know it's unavoidable. but I don't think there are too many scenes with non-con. if you count when you make enemies 'submit', you can skip those by choosing not to initiate with them on the ground.

[bumbling_bea]

Cool, appreciate it!

[Arno]

+1, thanks for the info. After getting trolled by a friend into trying HuniePop and finding out that it's not just a passable match-3 game but one of the very best there is underneath the dating sim veneer and gratuitous booba, I've become intrigued by this intersection of good games* with NSFW** lore.

Even so, for me personally I can get into a violent game, and I can get into a sexy game, but I'm not really interested in mixing the two...so this distinction is relevant to me (and I'm also glad that the dev recognized that it was a worthwhile distinction to make as well, although it's unfortunate that they didn't include all such encounters).



* It's hard to really say what a "good game" is, but I guess the best quick way is to just say "a game you would still give a thumbs-up review to if all the sexy elements were removed".

** At least in "western culture", we usually forget that violence also comes under the "NSFW" banner, although we've decided that violence has to be much more extreme to qualify for filtering. Having said that, in this context I think it's reasonable to acknowledge that we're specifically talking about this game's erotic aspects, and not the violence of the combat, when we say "NSFW".

[Phlebiac]

There's always sex when you want your character to become stronger. Same goes after you defeat a boss. Or finishing a questline.

[Arno]

Originally posted by Phlebiac:

There's always sex when you want your character to become stronger. Same goes after you defeat a boss. Or finishing a questline.

It's not the sexual encounters in general that we're curious about in this thread, but specifically non-consensual encounters. Not sure if that's what you were meaning to imply here.

I mean, at the end of the day, you could certainly argue that mowing someone down with a machine gun (not necessarily this game, just in general) is blatantly non-consensual violence, but for this kind of content...it's just different. I don't really want a game that forces that in my library, but more importantly I don't really want to play a game that forces that.

[Rad-Dude 63 & 1/3rd]

Originally posted by Arno:

Originally posted by Phlebiac:

There's always sex when you want your character to become stronger. Same goes after you defeat a boss. Or finishing a questline.

It's not the sexual encounters in general that we're curious about in this thread, but specifically non-consensual encounters. Not sure if that's what you were meaning to imply here.

I mean, at the end of the day, you could certainly argue that mowing someone down with a machine gun (not necessarily this game, just in general) is blatantly non-consensual violence, but for this kind of content...it's just different. I don't really want a game that forces that in my library, but more importantly I don't really want to play a game that forces that.

In my experience the mention of noncon is entirely misapplied to the description. The sex scenes are with characters who either already consent or get overwhelmed with lust one way or another after fighting ya. I have a hard time comparing that to being the same as something like the Succubus games from this publisher where you can literally see characters begging for their assaulters to stop in the screenshots. Honestly it's wild to me how common SA is in adult games, that's really not a vanilla fantasy and shouldn't be treated that way. Store page needs to properly describe its own game instead of making people wonder like this.

[Arno]

Originally posted by Rad-Dude 63 & 1/3rd:

In my experience the mention of noncon is entirely misapplied to the description. The sex scenes are with characters who either already consent or get overwhelmed with lust one way or another after fighting ya.

Well, that sounds reasonable; we've all seen plenty of entertainment media where two characters are screaming at each other only to pause and then start ferociously making out. To be honest I always thought it was a bit silly, but certainly there's obvious consent on both sides.

Thanks for taking the time to (further) clarify! To me this is at least as much about advancing the medium in general as it is about any particular game specifically, so whether I eventually pick this one up or not it's nice to know.

[Rad-Dude 63 & 1/3rd]

Originally posted by Arno:

Originally posted by Rad-Dude 63 & 1/3rd:

In my experience the mention of noncon is entirely misapplied to the description. The sex scenes are with characters who either already consent or get overwhelmed with lust one way or another after fighting ya.

Well, that sounds reasonable; we've all seen plenty of entertainment media where two characters are screaming at each other only to pause and then start ferociously making out. To be honest I always thought it was a bit silly, but certainly there's obvious consent on both sides.

Thanks for taking the time to (further) clarify! To me this is at least as much about advancing the medium in general as it is about any particular game specifically, so whether I eventually pick this one up or not it's nice to know.

No worries! But yeah like the closest thing I can think of is that there's like, a spell to deliberately induce lust (best way to build sin in this game is by having sex, who'd guess? 😆) and I think some weapons might have effects for it too but again, while it may be magically induced horniness, there's still consent. I just get frustrated when games like this and FlipWitch vaguely say there's noncon when like you and I can tell what they think is just plain isn't lol. If they're going to make those claims they need to be less vague about what those scenes entail. I'm not into rape fantasies and it's really gross that the porn game industry just assumes most people are. Certainly not the only issue with things but it's definitely one of the largest ones in the industry.