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In 2 they were driven by revenge, 3 they were hunting for gems, SDD, NG and 4 they pretty much had a villain to take down
The only game I can think of that has the brothers rescuing Marian besides remakes of 1 is Neon
Because God forbid any kind of variety in gameplay and characters. If it was a guy with a bazooka I doubt he'd complain
From the Super Double Dragon manual:
Marian, a beautiful young policewoman, is a student of Kung Fu and part-time assistant instructor at the martial arts training school run by Billy and Jimmy Lee. A narcotics investigator, she has disappeared while attempting to infiltrate the ruthless criminal mob known as the Black Shadow Warriors.
I'm not sure where this "Marian is a helpless damsel that shouldn't fight" comes from, but it's completely false.
OP is just scared for some reason
The first two games ain't perfect, the combat is a standard early beat'em up game (even Renegade has more finesse to it), and considering how inconsistent the series are ever since the 90s, anything new is welcome for them to see what works and what doesn't
I'm sorry man but this just feels like bickering, you're pretty much rejecting new ideas for the sake of it
Btw that quoted SDD paragraph is so out of place I don't even know what was it for, no point was elaborated upon it
Regardless of whether you like SDD or not, the fact remains that it is still canon to the original trilogy on the NES and Marian is a capable martial artist and policewoman. So why is it strange to see her fighting (with weapons no less)?
Yes, this game is a reboot and yes, it appears that Marian is still a policewoman but even ignoring that, you are still getting an extra playable character. I don't understand how that can be a negative thing.
No matter what you show him, he'll throw that "that's not what Double Dragon is about" stuff every time
it's just a game man chill :)
btw nes dd2 has her going back to life if that matters, officially developed by technos at that
So the official instruction manual for the game is not canon to the game that it is packaged with now? That's completely illogical. Also, this was a Double Dragon game by Technos. Nothing more official than that. Yes, they rushed to release it and had to cut lots of content but it still built on and improved upon the previous titles as well as introducing new mechanics that became staples like the special meter (which was also used in Double Dragon Neon).
She died in the arcade version and that was retconned in the console versions hence why I said SDD was a sequel to the DD trilogy on the NES, all of which she is alive in.
If there's anyone who didn't do the research was OP there
Side note: The game has Gaiden on its name, meaning it's a side story. So in theory he shouldn't even worry about this if things "doesn't belong in the canon"
Said canon which is really inconsistent even on Technos titles
stay away from this game, simple as that
follow your own advice as well :)
I dont want a culture war, I want a culture massacre. I dont want to recognize anything. Make Marian the main character. Change everyones genders and hair colors. **** your childhood, your feelings and your past, all your hopes and dreams. Lert me know what else I can say to make you hate me for eternity. Nothing gives me reason to go on other than knowing anything remotely left wing makes you sad. <3
No but how is that even applicable? She's been playable in other games before. She has been established as being a capable martial artist and a policewoman. Now she'll be playable again. So because she wasn't playable in the NES games then she shouldn't be now? I mean Asuka R# just became playable in Guilty Gear 2 days ago for the first time in the series history. The big bad from Guilty Gear hasn't been playable since it started back in the 90's. Should be not be playable either?
You said you liked Double Dragon Neon (which I do too) but that was far more of a departure from the classic games than this one appears to be with buildings flying into space, the brothers fighting a giant tank thing and helicopters that fly upside down. The new one definitely looks more grounded.
Funnily enough, Streets of Rage 4 has Estel, who is a playable policewoman that uses explosives as well as martial arts who also wasn't playable when she debuted. Isn't that also woke garbage being shoved down your throat too?
If Shredder's Revenge had a playable Lotus rather than April then don't you think there'd be backlash as she's such an obscure character? She appeared in 2 episodes and in no other media.
April shouldn't be playable because she wasn't in the old arcade games? Did you complain that the entire Simpsons family were playable and could beat people up in that old arcade game too because it was woke?
It's completely in-character for Marian to fight with firearms with her background and she's an optional playable character. You can still play as the Lee brothers like you could before. It's not like her being playable has taken away one of their character slots.
Other players who want to play as Marian now have the option yet you want to take that away from them despite still being able to play as the characters that you want to play as? You always have the choice of choosing not to play as her because it's optional and options are good.
Super Double Dragon was by Technos (before they started licensing out the game to anyone that would pay for it) and a followup to the NES games so I'd say it can't get more official than that. We can't pick and choose what is official or not.
Where did you get that Marian is an office cop from though? She literally went undercover in SDD and then went missing. Her using firearms to fight with is completely consistent with her background.
So 3 appearances across all media? I think that would cause more backlash than a playable April. Not sure which game she appeared in (and I've played a lot of them) but it wasn't OotS as I've played through that over a dozen times. That gave features Karai who is a similar character.
Edit: I saw the screenshot in your edited post. That's the game but that character is Karai and not Lotus. So still only 2 appearances ever.
Didn't you say above that things from failed games shouldn't be included anyway? The reception to OotS was horrible compared to SDD. In fact I think the only TMNT game I can think of since the classic era that was well-received (other than Shredder's Revenge) was the GBA one based off the 2007 movie.
It was a casual game but you were bringing up the classic TMNT arcade games earlier in your argument about April saying that she shouldn't be playable just like in those. You keep contradicting what you've said prior. The Simpsons arcade game was during the golden age of the Konami licenced beat 'em ups so played very similarly to the TMNT arcade games and actually had more mechanics such as co-op moves. It's no more casual than the TMNT arcade games.
In the case of April beating Shredder, if I start dissecting videogame logic like that then I wouldn't be able to play a lot of games I love. Could Wolverine beat Juggernaut, could Captain America beat Galactus, could Ryu beat Hulk? If April beat up Shredder in the show then I might have an issue. Why is Blaze faster than Axel in Streets of Rage when he is obviously in peak condition and has the biological advantages over her? If April was included at the cost of losing one of the turtles then I'd have a problem but she wasn't. We have the turtles and the most popular and constant supporting characters across all media, all playable in the game. We have additional playable characters that I can choose not to play as if I don't want to and I still get to play as the turtles are well so it's a win for both sides.
But your argument with April was that she is just a reporter, but even though Marian is a cop with training, she still shouldn't be playable? Just don't play as Marian if you don't like her. Personally I think her different fighting style will increase the replayability of the title.
Also I highly doubt Vernon is high on the list of requested playable characters somehow. Personally I'd love a playable Usagi but that's not going to happen either.