Looks more Scott Pilgrim than Double Dragon

[Milkdust]

While Double Dragon certainly is a retro experience from perhaps a simpler, more bygone era, you still want Double Dragon to have a bit of a dark edge to it. Right now this looks a bit too playful in style and tone. And honestly, pixel-art sprites need to just go away forever.

[Neo NiGHTS ®]

They have done such a mix of styles that shows a completely lack of understanding of what arcade beat'em ups were and what DD is.

For starters, arcades beat'em ups always had HUGE sprites.
That's was their WOW factor that home consoles couldn't replicate.

I'm not against a more lighter tone, more "childish" characters but if you want to go that way, then go the WHOLE way and make the characters full SD, like Mighty Final Fight for the NES.


The way it is right now it's like...

"Let's make pixel art because people LOVE pixel art. But also let's make the game with an arcade feeling because the game has arcade roots, but also let's make it cutesy for a broader audience. Voilà!"

No. Just no.



(in case it hasn't been clear, I'm agreeing with the OP here. Just making some further comments)

[Hawk King]

Double Dragon Neon is my favorite game in the series and it was an affectionate parody of the 80s. The series being lighthearted and playful doesn't bother me. This new game looks fun

[Milkdust]

Originally posted by Hawkingbird:

Double Dragon Neon is my favorite game in the series and it was an affectionate parody of the 80s. The series being lighthearted and playful doesn't bother me. This new game looks fun

Gotta go with Double Dragon for the Gameboy Advance as my favorite in the series. But Neon's got a lot going for it too.

[Shibby]

Wow that is exactly what it looks like. I hate that Scott Pilgrim game too. Hopefully they nail the controls more than anything. I don't want to deal with slow characters and all that.

[KenjiN4]

Originally posted by Sleezure:

While Double Dragon certainly is a retro experience from perhaps a simpler, more bygone era, you still want Double Dragon to have a bit of a dark edge to it. Right now this looks a bit too playful in style and tone. And honestly, pixel-art sprites need to just go away forever.

I agree that the artstyle isn't really my cup of tea, but if it complements the combat well, then it's fine by me. Also, despite the different artstyle, it translate some classic 90s elements quite well aesthetically, though the Advance look could've indeed been a better pick if going by pure artstyle preferences disregarding gameplay.
Still, I'd pick this style any day over 2020 Battletoads for instance, being handdrawn doesn't equal being automatically pretty or engaging. The way you present it is what does.

[KenjiN4]

Originally posted by Shibby:

Wow that is exactly what it looks like. I hate that Scott Pilgrim game too. Hopefully they nail the controls more than anything. I don't want to deal with slow characters and all that.

Same, I like this game, but it has some frustrating elements from time to time. Hope DD Gaiden makes things engaging combat-wise and also works well with what it offers

[Shibby]

Originally posted by KenjiN4:

Originally posted by Shibby:

Wow that is exactly what it looks like. I hate that Scott Pilgrim game too. Hopefully they nail the controls more than anything. I don't want to deal with slow characters and all that.

Same, I like this game, but it has some frustrating elements from time to time. Hope DD Gaiden makes things engaging combat-wise and also works well with what it offers

I would prefer if they just copy what Shredder's Revenge did. I don't need this super deep combat system or any of the stuff that Streets of Rage 4 did. I just want it to be fast and fluid combat. It's like they were putting out balance patches for Streets of Rage 4 which is just silly/too much going on IMO.

[dafirus]

I honestly preferred 32-bit pixel art graphics on an improved version of Super Double Dragon from Snes... But ok... the graphics bother me, but they won't make me not pick up the game. Better than the crappy graphics that was the DD 4... which I also bought anyway... DD is in my heart, my first game... the game that made me have videogames...

[KenjiN4]

Originally posted by Shibby:

Originally posted by KenjiN4:

Same, I like this game, but it has some frustrating elements from time to time. Hope DD Gaiden makes things engaging combat-wise and also works well with what it offers

I would prefer if they just copy what Shredder's Revenge did. I don't need this super deep combat system or any of the stuff that Streets of Rage 4 did. I just want it to be fast and fluid combat. It's like they were putting out balance patches for Streets of Rage 4 which is just silly/too much going on IMO.

Shredder's Revenge makes for good casual play, I like it and it would be a good approach for DDG. Considering there will be a total of 13 characters, I figure they won't have detailed moves and such, so it may be fast paced and fluid like that.
Though be it deep or casual I just hope the combat works for what it's offering, since we don't know much about what the game is offering besides tag attacks and roguelite elements, we just have to wait for now.

Originally posted by dafirus:

I preferred the graphic style of River City Girls. The size and style is very nice and perfect there... but ok... I will definitely buy it!! When will it be released??

RCG's style would be just as unfitting for what it offers IMO, it's pretty but it would work if Billy and Jimmy were playable in that series.
There's no release date yet, though the timeframe is Summer to Fall this year

[Roobar]

I also dislike the look of the characters. But then again, my standards for what I like has been lowered in the past few years, so I'm gonna buy this anyway.

[Shibby]

Originally posted by Roobar:

I also dislike the look of the characters. But then again, my standards for what I like has been lowered in the past few years, so I'm gonna buy this anyway.

The look reminds me of Mighty Final Fight on the NES.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoUPvwCcUo8

[RunningWild]

The big burning question though... will throws have invuln? Are enemies gonna be sprinkled with super armor? These things easily make or break a beat'em up to me, and so far modern beat'em ups from the last few years don't have a good track record with handling these type of gameplay mechanics.

[KenjiN4]

Originally posted by RunningWild:

The big burning question though... will throws have invuln? Are enemies gonna be sprinkled with super armor? These things easily make or break a beat'em up to me, and so far modern beat'em ups from the last few years don't have a good track record with handling these type of gameplay mechanics.

Shredder's Revenge recently updated the game to have invulnerable throws, so this might be the norm for current brawlers indeed, that and other special attacks that can be used as a "get out of jail card"
Armored enemies isn't a bad call, if placed properly. Since the game will offer us a rogue-lite progression, if we assume there are going to be armored mobs, let's hope they'll be able to balance it properly
Though honestly, since there's not much info to work with, there's no reason to worry since we didn't even get to see any red flags as of now, so the best to do is wait so we can at least assume things with a proper base

[Golecom]

I agree, i don't like the chibi style art. They should remake the first trilogy in a more darker and serious tone. In a Matt Mcmuscles video talking of the making of the game i put some ideas on what i would like story wise in the game:

"They should remake the games in a trilogy. Here are some ideas of my own.

Double Dragon: The game is basically the same idea of the original. Willy wanting the true secrets of sou-setsu-ken, kidnaps Marian to get the legendary scrolls. The game ends with Willy dying in rage of the Lee brother defeating him.

Double dragon II The revenge: The game starts with Marian being killed by a unknown assailant, and the rumor is that is was the shadow warriors gang and their supreme grand leader. The leader is Willy older brother user of the gen-satsu-ken in revenge for the death of his little brother. In the final battle the Lee brothers defeat the leader, but in the last effort this uses a special technique that makes Jimmy go into a rage, being fueled by the grief of Marian's death and blames his brother. Jimmy viciously attack his brother and they both barely make it alive with Jimmy disappearing.

Double dragon III The sacred stones: 6 moths has passed since the first game and the older brother, Sonny Lee, comebacks from a long training journey around the world in his quest to master sou-setsu-ken. He finds his family and dojo in shambles with the disappearance of one of his twin brothers and mortal wounds on the other. Sonny helps his wounded and appealed brother to recover, with he slowly does in the course of two years. One day both brothers find his restored dojo destroyed and their best discipline Brett in his last breath to tell them that it was the New Shadow Warriors who attacked them. The Lee brothers defeat the new gang and their leader and mysterious old woman appears telling them the legend of the sacred stones, stones with mystic powers capable of many feats, even reviving the dead and that the shadow warrior wanted to come back to power, and seeing the Lee dojo as an inconvenience to their plan attacked them. Billy seeing as the shadow warriors went that far and hearing the capabilities of the stones, goes on their search in the little hope to revive Marian. So both Billy and Sonny go around the world searching for them, in the end everything was a plot of the old lady to get the stones for her self and attacks both the lee brothers and their new friends, but Haruko, now young after using the stones, gets killed by a shadowy figure. It's Jimmy, he immediately uses the stones to revive Marian and takes her with him. Telling their brothers that she belongs to him and if they want her back, they have to defeat him. And he calls himself the new leader of the black dragons gang."

[Michael the Meek]

It does have that look but i would say this is a result of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge.