20 Minutes Till Dawn

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Primaris Jul 13, 2022 @ 1:24pm
Seriously why the heck did the developer think having auto reload over auto shoot is a good idea?
Like really? Auto Reload feels awful and janky as ♥♥♥♥ and hearing the reload noise start and stop because I stopped shooting for a second is infuriating over 20 minutes.

Auto shoot is good because holding left click for 20 minutes isn't good for anybody with carpal tunnel.

I know that auto clickers exist but come on dev.
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crystalgatedh Jul 13, 2022 @ 1:39pm 
The game should only play a reload noise when the character finishes reloading, no sound should be played for beginning the reload. I have no idea what you mean with auto reload feeling awful and janky though. Are you one of those who has experienced trouble shooting while the character is reloading even though you're not out of bullets?
Primaris Jul 13, 2022 @ 4:40pm 
It's not bad due to gameplay reasons it's just annoying to hear the clicking. It feels awful cause I don't want to do it. I know it isn't doing ANYTHING but hearing click then seeing the meter constantly is AWFUL.
Last edited by Primaris; Jul 13, 2022 @ 4:41pm
comunidade Jul 13, 2022 @ 6:05pm 
about the auto reload in the middle of the clip just keep shooting until its empty and the reload is necessary.

about the sound, just mute the game.

two problems solved, thank me later.
Primaris Jul 13, 2022 @ 6:10pm 
Oh wow great work around. Oh a single sound is annoying just turn off all sound gg ez. the copium is huge around here lmao.
comunidade Jul 13, 2022 @ 9:59pm 
Originally posted by Primaris:
Oh wow great work around. Oh a single sound is annoying just turn off all sound gg ez. the copium is huge around here lmao.
so u hate deaf people now? reported idiot
Primaris Jul 13, 2022 @ 10:51pm 
Originally posted by comunidade:
Originally posted by Primaris:
Oh wow great work around. Oh a single sound is annoying just turn off all sound gg ez. the copium is huge around here lmao.
so u hate deaf people now? reported idiot
Nice job putting words into my mouth. You sure that ain't you? Gotta remember to study later to regain the brain cells I just lost.

Keep playing your bad game then. I used to like it till all the bugs and garbage design decisions ruined it. At least it was just 3 bucks.
K3 Jul 14, 2022 @ 12:41am 
The game has auto-shoot by holding down the LMB (Aside from the Crossbow for obvious reasons) and the auto-reload making a clicking sound is more of a personal peeve to you than an actual issue I feel.

I understand your point however, when I first started playing I very much was put off by the auto-reload because I felt like it was interrupting my flow and when I wanted to reload. However I only seem to sometimes have issues with it force reloading after a level up or if you get the talent which gives you bullets back on xp pickup, which can lead to you firing one bullet of your 25 round SMG because it continually reloads one bullet at a time.

I feel like it's just something you get used to rather than it being a flaw. It ultimately can be gotten used to and it doesn't have an major issues in terms of game design (Aside from the reload pick up upgrade) in regards to the reloading for me.
Primaris Jul 14, 2022 @ 1:22am 
Originally posted by K3:
The game has auto-shoot by holding down the LMB (Aside from the Crossbow for obvious reasons) and the auto-reload making a clicking sound is more of a personal peeve to you than an actual issue I feel.

I understand your point however, when I first started playing I very much was put off by the auto-reload because I felt like it was interrupting my flow and when I wanted to reload. However I only seem to sometimes have issues with it force reloading after a level up or if you get the talent which gives you bullets back on xp pickup, which can lead to you firing one bullet of your 25 round SMG because it continually reloads one bullet at a time.

I feel like it's just something you get used to rather than it being a flaw. It ultimately can be gotten used to and it doesn't have an major issues in terms of game design (Aside from the reload pick up upgrade) in regards to the reloading for me.

When I say auto fire I mean like the character just shoots continuously from a single button press I'm not trying to spam left click to fire multiple times here.

It's just when you get to later waves you are holding LMB for minutes at a time and it is not very good for somebody who suffers from carpal tunnel like me.

I understand the the reload thing is just a pet peeve but it's just so strange to have an auto reload and not an auto fire in a game like this or any game really.

Do you know of any other game where your character starts to reload their gun as soon as you stop shooting for any amount of time?

Imagine an FPS where the moment you don't have a full mag your character will start to reload the gun but even if you can "cancel" out of the animation how disorienting will it be to you if you suddenly have to shoot?

It is a strange design decision that wasn't there at the start and I'm baffled why he added it when nobody asked for such a thing.
crystalgatedh Jul 14, 2022 @ 1:52am 
It's not strange at all that this game has an auto reload and not an auto fire. There are a lot of reasons to not shoot at various points, you lose mobility and often you want to choose where and when you shoot carefully. Meanwhile, the auto reload is with a few exception a quality of life feature. There are rarely any reason not to reload whenever you're not shooting.

I do not find the auto reload disorienting. I suspect that the reason some people do is because they are due to other games used to not being able to shoot while reloading and the have a difficult time convincing their brains that this is not the case.

The auto reload decision is not strange, it would be a strange decision in the vast majority of games, but it is not in this game.

I do however think it would be a good idea to make the auto reload optional in a future update and maybe also have a way to turn on and off an auto fire.
Swampbunches Jul 14, 2022 @ 8:07am 
You can interrupt the reload at anytime to start shooting (assuming you didn't empty the full clip) so it doesn't interrupt your shooting flow in anyway. I've been playing 7 hours and never once thought it was weird that my character started reloading. And having any kind of auto shooting would not make sense as it slows your character down, depending on your build being able to stop shooting and move quickly is very important. I do, however, agree that any QOL setting to help with people's carpal tunnel would be good. I'm all about accessibility features. Personally the monochrome color palette makes it VERY difficult for me to tell what's going on once I'm further in to the run.
Jalir Jul 14, 2022 @ 8:09am 
Weird hill to die on. Later.
Shadow Hirroku Jul 14, 2022 @ 4:31pm 
This gripe is stupid.
father esteban Jul 14, 2022 @ 9:59pm 
thanks for including auto reload i love it
Swampbunches Jul 15, 2022 @ 10:14am 
yeah the auto reload rules
Fuzzleberry Jul 15, 2022 @ 1:02pm 
Why not instead of one or the other just give us an option to turn on a left click toggle instead of hold, seems like it would fix everything and take nothing away.
Originally posted by crystalgatedh:
Are you one of those who has experienced trouble shooting while the character is reloading even though you're not out of bullets?
Is this not normal? can people shoot the pistol then wait a second and shoot again without a big delay? its not a big problem for me but I would like to fix that if possible.
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Date Posted: Jul 13, 2022 @ 1:24pm
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