Feedback after 10 hours..

[TheOrigin]

I love the Z - Survival Genre. I have played them all with thousands of hours into several game - you name it:

**Ego/Survival**
Scum
Night of the Dead
7Days2Die
Dying Light
Days Gone
World War Z
DayZ
State of Decay
Zompiercer
Deadpoly
The Infected
Taora

**Isometric**
The Last Stand Aftermath
Dysmantle
HumanitZ
Project Zomboid

**VR**
Arizona Sunshine
Survival Nation
After the Fall

So No One Survived has ALOT of things done right. But from my first experience its also a bugfest. Good things first:

- i love the building system, its straight forward but yet very flexible and powerful. Gridsnap, freestyle - everything is possible and i did just scratch the surface...
- combat hit feedback and gore is awesome. Period.
- AI is solid as i can tell so far
- Loot system is extremely satisfying because you can even loot single drawers and things like open crates. Awesome!
- Research and Progress system is pretty cool if you figure out how it actually works. (absolute must: stand next to your workbenches while they craft!!!)
- weather and atmospheric effects: just wow. Very cool
- Graphic is pretty solid for a game by a single developer!


Here are the cons:
- patches seems to break alot of stuff, right now there is no loot respawn before day 6 (if you start fresh, just sleep straight forward 5 days and then start playing).
- sound issues: i dont know if its just me but out of a sudden sound doesnt work correctly or has a "delay"
- corpse despawn: what in the hell did you do there? the corpses despawn so fast, you dont even have time to loot them! This needs a fix asap! They should lay on the ground at least for a minute so you have time to fight of a group before the first corpse despawns. Right now: I kill the first one, and before i finished the second Z, the first corpse is gone - no trophies, no loot.
- if you are unlucky you become staggered infinitely which is a dead sentence, there should be a grace period for the play so you can actually defend yourself
- bleed infection: there is a debuff you get randomly when you are hit by Z. This is a dead 100% sentence. You CANT stop the bleeding at all, i tried all medipacks and bandages i have, still died. I dont know if its a bug or i missed something. I didnt find any medicine which cured this..
- hunger and thirst consumption is a little to much in the beginning. Yes you find plenty of food, but it becomes a chore to have to eat like 20 times a day..

Thats it for now - i am currently building a bigger base, learning skills up to level 3 and try to get an overview over the map. Had much fun so far and its already one of my favorites, even better than days2die (which was my all time favorite for quite a while).

Thanks and keep the updates coming

[Felix McDaggart]

Originally posted by TheOrigin:

- corpse despawn: what in the hell did you do there? the corpses despawn so fast, you dont even have time to loot them! This needs a fix asap! They should lay on the ground at least for a minute so you have time to fight of a group before the first corpse despawns. Right now: I kill the first one, and before i finished the second Z, the first corpse is gone - no trophies, no loot.

/agree

Originally posted by TheOrigin:

- if you are unlucky you become staggered infinitely which is a dead sentence, there should be a grace period for the play so you can actually defend yourself

i like this in the game and i haven't seen it in many others, too close and can't bring gun to bear or swing weapon which is what happens when fighting, but i can see when new to the game its off putting but doable once you learn the combat mechanics.

Originally posted by TheOrigin:

- bleed infection: there is a debuff you get randomly when you are hit by Z. This is a dead 100% sentence. You CANT stop the bleeding at all, i tried all medipacks and bandages i have, still died. I dont know if its a bug or i missed something. I didnt find any medicine which cured this..

antibiotics required and you get 1 shot in the starter gear, if its the red round virus looking symbol and if you have enough med packs it will disappear but you need a lot,

Originally posted by TheOrigin:

- hunger and thirst consumption is a little to much in the beginning. Yes you find plenty of food, but it becomes a chore to have to eat like 20 times a day..

im only eating when i set off and when i come back to base, 20 times seems a stretch lol

[TheOrigin]

Originally posted by McDaggart:

Originally posted by TheOrigin:

- bleed infection: there is a debuff you get randomly when you are hit by Z. This is a dead 100% sentence. You CANT stop the bleeding at all, i tried all medipacks and bandages i have, still died. I dont know if its a bug or i missed something. I didnt find any medicine which cured this..

antibiotics required and you get 1 shot in the starter gear, if its the red round virus looking symbol and if you have enough med packs it will disappear but you need a lot,

Thanks for your reply - see i didnt start out with starter gear, but without anything. Thats why i didnt have any medicine. Good to know that therer is antibiotics also, but i didnt find ANY in my 10 hours of playtime yet. So i guess its really rare?

About the stagger mechanic - i am an reallife archer and i can tell you, even if my target is in close proximity, i can still use the bow as a weapon or even get a quick shot of. The Bow itself is pretty heavy made of sturdy materials.

[Felix McDaggart]

for the antibiotics, look for any hospitals, downstairs at the military barracks, ships and bathrooms in houses, oh and police station?

i like the stagger mechanic as it represents being swarmed by a horde like seen in films and the such, i guess its a marmite thing :)

[Darren]

Or buy the antibiotics from a trader, depeding on wich map you are playing ^^ So far good feedback, agree with most of it.

[Mairsil The Pretender]

I think entirely losing all skills and technology on death is too much. It's one thing to lose tech and make the player pay resources to relearn them, but skills means you have to stand around crafting a ton more stuff for most of the unlocks. That's a fun killer...

[Robo]

Originally posted by Raymond K Hessel:

I think entirely losing all skills and technology on death is too much. It's one thing to lose tech and make the player pay resources to relearn them, but skills means you have to stand around crafting a ton more stuff for most of the unlocks. That's a fun killer...

turn permadeath off ....

[Robo]

Originally posted by TheOrigin:

- patches seems to break a lot of stuff, right now there is no loot respawn before day 6 (if you start fresh, just sleep straight forward 5 days and then start playing).

Are you saying there is no loot when you start the save? Loot respawn is on a timer so if you choose a 5 day period it will respawn after 5 days have elapsed from when you first entered that area. The initial loot spawn should occur when you go into an area for the first time.

Originally posted by TheOrigin:

- corpse despawn: what in the hell did you do there? the corpses despawn so fast, you dont even have time to loot them! This needs a fix asap! They should lay on the ground at least for a minute so you have time to fight of a group before the first corpse despawns. Right now: I kill the first one, and before i finished the second Z, the first corpse is gone - no trophies, no loot.

Yeah it has been raised with the dev. Believe it or not he said he lengthened the timer a fw updates ago but it is still too fast, especially since they now drop teeth etc

Originally posted by TheOrigin:

- if you are unlucky you become staggered infinitely which is a dead sentence, there should be a grace period for the play so you can actually defend yourself

I have been staggered but never infinitely unless I get trapped in a corner by a bunch of zombies. If you are in the open you can pretty much always run and get some distance

Originally posted by TheOrigin:

- bleed infection: there is a debuff you get randomly when you are hit by Z. This is a dead 100% sentence. You CANT stop the bleeding at all, i tried all medipacks and bandages i have, still died. I dont know if its a bug or i missed something. I didnt find any medicine which cured this..

As others have said there are cures. There are two level of infection .. the small tear drop one is cured with a bandage. The large snowflake one needs antibiotics. Worst case if you get the bad one with no syringe available quickly whack down a bed and set your respawn point is about all you can do. It's yet another reason not to get into melee combat with smelly, infected zombies :P

Originally posted by TheOrigin:

- hunger and thirst consumption is a little to much in the beginning. Yes you find plenty of food, but it becomes a chore to have to eat like 20 times a day..

Two tips ... First, increase your day length so that time doesn't pass so fact for you (I use 120 mins which is the max). Second, stop sprinting everywhere ... it burns up extra stamina, food and drink resources. It's funny watching some streamers who just can't break the habit of sprinting

[Mairsil The Pretender]

Originally posted by Robo:

Originally posted by Raymond K Hessel:

I think entirely losing all skills and technology on death is...

turn permadeath off ....

Yeah, missed that option. But I think part of the reason I missed it is that my game resolution and desktop resolution were different and that was messing with my ability to navigate the settings menu. It's something I should have considered, I've been playing games since that was common, but I haven't seen it in years so it threw me. Still, my bad.

Separate critique, I think clay is a weirdly hard bottleneck for the early game. I've started the game several times now and once I was completely surrounded by it, but every other time I have wandered a pretty large radius around where I started and saw none of it. I've also never seen it in loot. Considering it's necessary for the furnace which gates several other technologies, I think it needs to be a little more spread out around the map.

[Robo]

Originally posted by Raymond K Hessel:

Originally posted by Robo:

turn permadeath off ....

Yeah, missed that option. But I think part of the reason I missed it is that my game resolution and desktop resolution were different and that was messing with my ability to navigate the settings menu. It's something I should have considered, I've been playing games since that was common, but I haven't seen it in years so it threw me. Still, my bad.

Separate critique, I think clay is a weirdly hard bottleneck for the early game. I've started the game several times now and once I was completely surrounded by it, but every other time I have wandered a pretty large radius around where I started and saw none of it. I've also never seen it in loot. Considering it's necessary for the furnace which gates several other technologies, I think it needs to be a little more spread out around the map.

Lots of the traders seem to have ore fields that have clay around them. Some of teh fields are marked on the interactive map at https://nosintel.com