Car durability is a joke.

[FUUKamikazeFUU]

After restart get early 2 repaircit on the trader on the other side of the respawn area. Was 100% whole time, didnt hit one thing. Zeds pushed it 2-3 times, while i was shooting them. Car down. I dont go real life hours again to repair something that is made of paper.

[Unorganized Crime Mob]

And there is your daily dose of common sense. Cherish it.

[Felix McDaggart]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Zig:

i mean for now , everything is a joke until its gonna be fixed , i stop playing due to crashed , strange stuffs happening/non sense and fps drop to 10-14

its a early access game fresh in development what do you expect?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1963370/discussions/0/3768986615583615535/

[Felix McDaggart]

Oprindeligt skrevet af DoneByDaan (OPG):

Following that line of reasoning, maybe then add car armor kits (light, med, heavy for instance) that you must learn/unlock so you can make the cars more tankie
(And then hopefully get some more car looks, armoured version types) :)

+1 :)

[Dirk Gently]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Tenzen:

Maybe cars are not intended to be easy to maintain in early game. Level your skills and make your own repair kits in midgame with the billions of car parts that are in cars.

that is a good point - never the less, hitting a wolf should not drop the car health from 100 to (nearly) destroyed. even with skills, its sometimes a challenge to avoid 10+ wolves on the road.

[Unorganized Crime Mob]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Dirk Gently:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Tenzen:

Maybe cars are not intended to be easy to maintain in early game. Level your skills and make your own repair kits in midgame with the billions of car parts that are in cars.

that is a good point - never the less, hitting a wolf should not drop the car health from 100 to (nearly) destroyed. even with skills, its sometimes a challenge to avoid 10+ wolves on the road.

I disagree. I dont think wolves and bears should be trivial just because you walked to the car repair trader on day 1. They should be more trivial in late game when you have more repair kits then you need. Or you built a harder to get car with more durability.

[Felix McDaggart]

top tip, if you have 2 car repair kits (CRK) then use one and keep one in the car, that way you can take as much damage to fall below 0 (as cars dont blow up) and still repair it after crash or taking damage from zombies, wolves, boars, bears, butterflys....lol

[Nocternaldaze]

Oprindeligt skrevet af McDaggart:

top tip, if you have 2 car repair kits (CRK) then use one and keep one in the car, that way you can take as much damage to fall below 0 (as cars dont blow up) and still repair it after crash or taking damage from zombies, wolves, boars, bears, butterflys....lol

Them damn butterflies get me every time, i even turned windscreen wipers on but nope 100% damage, i guess that is Muhammad Ali for you lol.

[Dirk Gently]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Tenzen:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Dirk Gently:

that is a good point - never the less, hitting a wolf should not drop the car health from 100 to (nearly) destroyed. even with skills, its sometimes a challenge to avoid 10+ wolves on the road.

I disagree. I dont think wolves and bears should be trivial just because you walked to the car repair trader on day 1. They should be more trivial in late game when you have more repair kits then you need. Or you built a harder to get car with more durability.

nobody said it should be trivial. but it also should not be 100% to nearly unuseable just because a wolf barked at you. a bear is a different story and was not brought up. so are boars.
running over a zombie should not immediately stop your car.

talking about realism in a zombie game is a different topic but in my opinion, it needs a bit of a balance.

[Felix McDaggart]

Oprindeligt skrevet af NocternalDaze:

Oprindeligt skrevet af McDaggart:

top tip, if you have 2 car repair kits (CRK) then use one and keep one in the car, that way you can take as much damage to fall below 0 (as cars dont blow up) and still repair it after crash or taking damage from zombies, wolves, boars, bears, butterflys....lol

Them damn butterflies get me every time, i even turned windscreen wipers on but nope 100% damage, i guess that is Muhammad Ali for you lol.

Lmao :)

[Rai]

I absolutely agree.

We were driving down a road and fifteen zombies suddenly spawned right beside us. They all dove in and in two hits, our car was completely totaled and we were stuck inside of it until they got bored and walked off--which was twenty IRL minutes because I wasn't going to lose out on four hours of gameplay after realizing autosave hadn't been working and I hadn't thought to save right before getting into the vehicle.

In real life, a moose walking up to a car is not going to total it, for those stating it is a possibility. A moose slamming your car is going to do some damage, depending on the vehicle type, where it was hit, and the force utilized--but it isn't going to suddenly total your vehicle.

In real life, six wolves ramming into your vehicle is going to hurt those six wolves, not the vehicle. You might get some minor denting, but nothing major. I've had aggressive large dogs ram into my vehicles in the country side in real life with absolutely no damage, let alone a totaled vehicle.

In real life, twenty people rushing at your vehicle might cause dents and damage to the glass, breaking it, but it isn't going to total your vehicle. If YOU hit them at high speeds, it is going to kill THEM, not your vehicle. You may get some damage to the undercarriage of your vehicle, but it isn't going to total your vehicle, especially a large truck.

In real life, NONE of what we see in this game with vehicles is going to actually happen. You're not going to run out of gas in twenty minutes at a full tank unless the gas line is repaired. If that is what is happening, we need options to repair pieces to fix that.

I fully understand that the intent is to walk and that most vehicles would not be working after God knows how many years have passed in game when we start, but if that's the case, we shouldn't have access to vehicles period. Having them be destroyed when you're five hours from base and hordes are randomly spawning that outrun you immediately is ridiculous and it isn't just a one off on someone's random buggy game--it's happening across the board to many players and has been brought up in repeated discussions.

[Felix McDaggart]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Rai:

I absolutely agree.
A moose slamming your car is going to do some damage, depending on the vehicle type, where it was hit, and the force utilized--but it isn't going to suddenly total your vehicle.

i suggest you google "moose totaled car" and see the "real life" images, hitting any large animal will do damage to a vehicle which if already in disrepair will make it undrivable.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Rai:

In real life, six wolves ramming into your vehicle is going to hurt those six wolves, not the vehicle. You might get some minor denting, but nothing major. I've had aggressive large dogs ram into my vehicles in the country side in real life with absolutely no damage, let alone a totaled vehicle.

hmmm ok....and ive seen first hand that a badger being hit can again do enough damage to make the car undrivable whilst the car almost looks untouched.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Rai:

In real life, NONE of what we see in this game with vehicles is going to actually happen.

lol, you seriously put this , of course its not

Oprindeligt skrevet af Rai:

You're not going to run out of gas in twenty minutes at a full tank unless the gas line is repaired. If that is what is happening, we need options to repair pieces to fix that.

its global repair system, bit early on in the games development to specialise on repairing certain areas....be thankful they dont blow up at 0%

Oprindeligt skrevet af Rai:

I fully understand that the intent is to walk and that most vehicles would not be working after God knows how many years have passed in game when we start, but if that's the case, we shouldn't have access to vehicles period.

so you dont like it so nobody should have it? bit selfish?
if there weren't cars in now how many people would moan and say " we need cars!!" ive already seen "we need helicopter's" lol
the car system is in the early stages of an EA game, im thankful for that function, if your unsatisfied with it then i humbly suggest to not use it?

Oprindeligt skrevet af Rai:

Having them be destroyed when you're five hours from base and hordes are randomly spawning that outrun you immediately is ridiculous and it isn't just a one off on someone's random buggy game--it's happening across the board to many players and has been brought up in repeated discussions.

IIRC, its been posted about alot and fixes are in the works but i think they have their hands full with the current issues,

frankly, its an early access game that currently has issues so what do you expect?
yes its happened to me, frustrating and annoying but hey, its just agame, bug report or post constructive suggestion, but pissing and moaning wont solve anything

[Rai]

Oprindeligt skrevet af McDaggart:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Rai:

I absolutely agree.
A moose slamming your car is going to do some damage, depending on the vehicle type, where it was hit, and the force utilized--but it isn't going to suddenly total your vehicle.

i suggest you google "moose totaled car" and see the "real life" images, hitting any large animal will do damage to a vehicle which if already in disrepair will make it undrivable.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Rai:

In real life, six wolves ramming into your vehicle is going to hurt those six wolves, not the vehicle. You might get some minor denting, but nothing major. I've had aggressive large dogs ram into my vehicles in the country side in real life with absolutely no damage, let alone a totaled vehicle.

hmmm ok....and ive seen first hand that a badger being hit can again do enough damage to make the car undrivable whilst the car almost looks untouched.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Rai:

In real life, NONE of what we see in this game with vehicles is going to actually happen.

lol, you seriously put this , of course its not

Oprindeligt skrevet af Rai:

You're not going to run out of gas in twenty minutes at a full tank unless the gas line is repaired. If that is what is happening, we need options to repair pieces to fix that.

its global repair system, bit early on in the games development to specialise on repairing certain areas....be thankful they dont blow up at 0%

Oprindeligt skrevet af Rai:

I fully understand that the intent is to walk and that most vehicles would not be working after God knows how many years have passed in game when we start, but if that's the case, we shouldn't have access to vehicles period.

so you dont like it so nobody should have it? bit selfish?
if there weren't cars in now how many people would moan and say " we need cars!!" ive already seen "we need helicopter's" lol
the car system is in the early stages of an EA game, im thankful for that function, if your unsatisfied with it then i humbly suggest to not use it?

Oprindeligt skrevet af Rai:

Having them be destroyed when you're five hours from base and hordes are randomly spawning that outrun you immediately is ridiculous and it isn't just a one off on someone's random buggy game--it's happening across the board to many players and has been brought up in repeated discussions.

IIRC, its been posted about alot and fixes are in the works but i think they have their hands full with the current issues,

frankly, its an early access game that currently has issues so what do you expect?
yes its happened to me, frustrating and annoying but hey, its just agame, bug report or post constructive suggestion, but pissing and moaning wont solve anything

I've grown up in states that have all of those animals and worked in vehicle insurance. A stationary vehicle with a moose casually walking across the street is not going to be totaled in ANY situation, period. My father hit a moose going 55mph on a highway and the vehicle was damaged. We had a moose walk up and lay on one of our vehicles and the only damage was a bent hood. You are not the only one who has seen these events; I've worked with hundreds of cases of people's vehicles after hitting an animal, after an aggressive animal approached, and after an animal accidentally walked into a vehicle or rubbed against one. The only ones that have ended in a totaled vehicle are ones where the driver collided with said animal at a high speed. People are talking about animals walking up and making minimal contact and the vehicles being damaged. Every player I have played with has had the same experience and no, that is absolutely, positively NOT going to happen in real life. If it does, your vehicle is made of aluminum foil and you shouldn't be driving it.

I don't know what badgers you have seen total a full sized vehicle, but I'm interested in the pictures if that is the case.

[Felix McDaggart]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Rai:

I've grown up in states that have all of those animals and worked in vehicle insurance. A stationary vehicle with a moose casually walking across the street is not going to be totaled in ANY situation, period. My father hit a moose going 55mph on a highway and the vehicle was damaged. We had a moose walk up and lay on one of our vehicles and the only damage was a bent hood.

well, i recommend not searching for videos on YT as they are quite harrowing to watch, so after see various images i saw, you can see why i have taken the opinion that a large animal may not "total" a car which means to wreck it, but it would certainly reduce it to 0% and make it undriveable....

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=moose+totals+car&sxsrf=AJOqlzWPrYgSUFrD9Iq7_JvG0LOhWTVGCA%3A1676721103818&source=hp&ei=z7vwY_H8L4S7gQb0hIPQBg&iflsig=AK50M_UAAAAAY_DJ3_5qLBFsrwBaEpBuJd3oizINPThc&ved=0ahUKEwixoJ3ugJ_9AhWEXcAKHXTCAGoQ4dUDCAo&uact=5&oq=moose+totals+car&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBwgjELECECcyBQgAEIYDMgUIABCGAzIFCAAQhgM6BwgjEOoCECc6BAgjECc6CwguEIMBELEDEIAEOgsILhCABBCxAxCDAToOCC4QxwEQsQMQ0QMQgAQ6CwgAEIAEELEDEIMBOggIABCABBCxAzoFCAAQgAQ6BQguEIAEOggILhCABBCxAzoHCC4QgAQQCjoLCC4QgAQQxwEQrwE6CggAEIAEELEDEAo6BwgAEIAEEAo6DQguEK8BEMcBEIAEEAo6CwgAEBYQHhDxBBAKOgkIABAWEB4Q8QQ6CAgAEBYQHhAKOgYIABAWEB5Q-wpY6CxgoS9oAXAAeACAAbMEiAHTFZIBCzkuMi4yLjEuMS4xmAEAoAEBsAEK&sclient=gws-wiz

Oprindeligt skrevet af Rai:

You are not the only one who has seen these events; I've worked with hundreds of cases of people's vehicles after hitting an animal, after an aggressive animal approached, and after an animal accidentally walked into a vehicle or rubbed against one. The only ones that have ended in a totaled vehicle are ones where the driver collided with said animal at a high speed. People are talking about animals walking up and making minimal contact and the vehicles being damaged.

again, its an early access game and numerous people have posted this and i assume the devs will look into but my point is the claims of a large pack of animals effecting the car is not as outlandish as you make out.
the car repair system at the moment is simplistic as more function over design, which i like as it saves walking....

Oprindeligt skrevet af Rai:

Every player I have played with has had the same experience and no, that is absolutely, positively NOT going to happen in real life. If it does, your vehicle is made of aluminum foil and you shouldn't be driving it.

you do not have to do much damage to a car to make it undriveable, ( I know this from my years in accident recovery working for a car bodyshop)

the front underneath is quite vulnerable to damage even though the rest of the car looks untouched, a simple water hose leak or oil drain will eventually seize the engine causing it again to stop, thus undriveable or as people miss label as "totalled" which to me means it would cost more to fix than the cars worth.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Rai:

I don't know what badgers you have seen total a full sized vehicle, but I'm interested in the pictures if that is the case.

again, i recovered a car from a country lane and was very surprised at why it wasnt driven to the garage, that was until i looked under the front.... this was before camera phones were widely available so i have no pictures.

although i do feel you have missed a lot of points i made and really focused on animal damage, im not saying what you say is false, only that its more possible than you claim to be and as previously stated, its not real life, its a game that's in early stages of EA development,
But it seems people like to rant and demand things and ridicule something that that may or may not know the intrinsic workings off rather than make a more suitably constructed post?

[Ramstar]

I had to restore a save to get around that, wasn't about to go on foot across the map again xD - now i try not to hit anything, its actually a good way for you to maybe approach zeds as you would if it were real, i.e. i'm not going to ruck up to a town with car blazing, id park up the road and walk on foot to be quiet..

[Felix McDaggart]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ramstar:

I had to restore a save to get around that, wasn't about to go on foot across the map again xD - now i try not to hit anything, its actually a good way for you to maybe approach zeds as you would if it were real, i.e. i'm not going to ruck up to a town with car blazing, id park up the road and walk on foot to be quiet..

Here's a perfect example of managing expectations and submitting a well constructed suggestion, just saying.