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Sol Feb 2, 2023 @ 9:23pm
Performance Thread - FPS and Specs
*EDIT*
I figured out that the game REALLY only wants to run properly in "fullscreen" mode - "borderless fullscreen" doesn't cut it and performance TANKS if you use this option, at least with my hardware setup.

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Figured I'd start this since I don't see one already.

As this game seems to behave oddly in different ways and at different times for no reason what-so-ever, I thought it would be handy to have a bit of a comparison between settings, hardware, and overall performance.

Performance is, inconsistent, to say the least... so I'm curious what other people are experiencing as well.

I'll start:

CORE PC SPECS:
Ryzen 7 2700X overclocked to 5.7Ghz (boost clock)
32Gb DDR4 3600
8Gb RTX2080 Super Waterforce
X470-F ROG Motherboard with Evo 470 Pro nvme


GAME SETTINGS:
-4k resolution
-windowed (borderless)
-lumen enabled, quality set to 1 (as well as the texture shadows and related settings)
most settings on "high" or "very high" but distance details, shadows, reflections, and post processing set to "medium"
-DLSS set to "performance"
-Antialiasing mode set to TSR
-Locked to 60fps and VSYNC enabled (as I have only a 60hz 4k display)
-Zombies set to 1 for spawn rate and spawns set to 30

PERFORMANCE:
-Game runs locked at a solid 60fps at all times while inside of structures. It never drops below unless I look out of a bunch of windows or something.
-Frames sit between 50 and 60 in general while in the "wilderness", mostly at 55+
-Frames drop to as low as 20fps at times, when nearing towns/buildings, then rebounding back to 30-50
-Frames can plummet to 5fps, specifically at the "water well town" in the centre of the map, and stay there for several seconds, before snapping out of it and returning to a blistering 15-20fps. This sometimes doesn't happen at all and it runs at the usual 40-50ish. It's unpredictable.


CONCLUSION?
After adjusting settings from the highest (movie) all the way to the lowest, and every combination in between... it really doesn't seem to matter what I turn on or off, the game runs about the same constantly. Even disabling Lumen and setting everything to low, or using 1080p resolution... nothing seems to matter.

WHAT SAY YOU?
Last edited by Sol; Feb 5, 2023 @ 3:54pm
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Sol Feb 3, 2023 @ 7:59am 
Originally posted by NocternalDaze:
Originally posted by NocternalDaze:
6ghz on a ryzen 7 2700x when even better cpus than that can only hit 5ghz something not right there.

Ryzen 7 2700 rtx 3060 1080p max setting 80 fps

Edit: did some research and the maxed confirmed overclock is 4.4ghz stable for that cpu, Anything above 4.4ghz causes crashes.
It has been set this way since I built it... like 4-5 years ago. It has crashed zero times ever that I am aware of. :)
Sol Feb 3, 2023 @ 8:06am 
Originally posted by RudeFoxs:
if anyone is on a potatoe it's probably me rn.
asus x570-f gaming rog strix mobo
amd ryzen 9 3900x cpu
corsair vengence rgb ram 3200mhz 32gb
rocket -q m.2 nvme 2tb
and msi gtx 1050ti 4gb
and yeah i kno its unsupported

does run but fps goes haywire when it rains or when i get to big towns
i run at 1080p 120hz
i have tried diff settings from high all the way down to low
and still fps plummets obviously i kno its my card. but i was hoping i would get some sort of stable fps atleast on low. even if it was in the range of 40fps. most time when it plumets it goes down to around 5fps then back up to 35-40.
noticed if i force dx11 i get upto 60 but mainly sits around 45-50 and still dips down to around 5 -10 fps. i think it is just optimisation that needs more work.

This seems to align fairly well with what I'm experiencing. I am making use of DLSS (as recommended by the developer) and still not getting a much more stable result than you from the sound of it. I have tried 1080p as well as 4k... and 1080p is maybe 3-5fps better but for a huge sacrifice in visual quality. Not worth it, in other words.

I suspect there are some underlying issues with the way things are being handled in the current build. To be expected, is an understatement - this is EA after all. Just hoping they address it soon, so they can have better tools for future expansion and polish.

Optimising the way buildings and interiors are loaded or made "active", and spawning the zombies all seems to happen at the same time... like one huge loop that it trying to run in a single tick or worse, nested loops... the whole thing just craps itself for a few seconds or maybe minutes, whatever it feels like, then it's right as rain again. Being in towns near large or lots of buildings with a high zombie population made it observably worse.
R.J.Travis Feb 3, 2023 @ 8:46am 
Originally posted by Sol:

Wow that's a nice new machine. I am considering a DDR5 build as well, especially after seeing the numbers. Seems like the "true" next-gen is finally here for the motherboard/ram/cpu market.

Mine is a few years old now, but still holding up well... i still get these odd fps problems where it just tanks to 5fps, then back to 60 again maybe 5 seconds later... no idea what's causing it but it's driving me nuts. xD

Anyway, nice machine man - and good results :D

Thanks.

I'm running the game in 4k I should have put that in my first post so i'll edit it in.

This game is very GPU focused and its optimized as well as its really going to get tbh.

If I don't limit my fps it will push my GPU to 80-99% use age but I limit it to 144 to match my monitor.

Its running on UnReal 5 so its going to run poorly on old hardware like almost every big open world unreal 5 game thats not from a big budget studio that can pay to have the code fit their every need. The hard thing to tell people is the most obvious its a small team selling a EA game for 16USD don't expect things to move quickly.
Nocternaldaze Feb 3, 2023 @ 8:53am 
Originally posted by Sol:
Originally posted by NocternalDaze:
6ghz on a ryzen 7 2700x when even better cpus than that can only hit 5ghz something not right there.

Ryzen 7 2700 rtx 3060 1080p max setting 80 fps
I scored a mutant, I got lucky for the most part. I was going to lap the cpu and hone the cooler base, and use a high grade thermal paste anyway... but this just added a bonus.

I have a screenshot from earlier (mega link in previous post), my HWmonitor clock results after leaving it running for a bit and just playing the game. I adjusted the the OC to an even more aggressive boost and now it peaks at 7.4 it seems, @69°C

It wants to hover around 4.8-5.1 most of the time but indeed gets weird boost peaks in the 7's. I've also seen the temp spike to 73°C (at constant 5.6ish clock) since then so I reduced the boost back to previous values... it's been set to that for 3 years, I shouldn't mess with it but wanted to prove a point.

I can assure you there are no crashes... prime95 can run 8 core test for 5 hours and nothing happens. There's a difference between contsant clock and boost clock. I average 5Ghz as mentioned before, but AI boosting to 6+. Blame the CPU not me, the AI clock control is turned on and set to something like 8/10 for clock. I set 10/10 when I hit that screenshot posted earlier.

I just found it really amusing that my PC is supposedly a "potato" according to "Linus Tech Tips" over there...

Linus can call me on discord and watch my HWmonitor live just in case I'm lying, if he wants to :buzzed:

Wow so you are saying you can maintain a overclock of 5.7 ghz and not even using liquid nitrogen.
Sol Feb 3, 2023 @ 7:10pm 
Originally posted by NocternalDaze:
Originally posted by Sol:
I scored a mutant, I got lucky for the most part. I was going to lap the cpu and hone the cooler base, and use a high grade thermal paste anyway... but this just added a bonus.

I have a screenshot from earlier (mega link in previous post), my HWmonitor clock results after leaving it running for a bit and just playing the game. I adjusted the the OC to an even more aggressive boost and now it peaks at 7.4 it seems, @69°C

It wants to hover around 4.8-5.1 most of the time but indeed gets weird boost peaks in the 7's. I've also seen the temp spike to 73°C (at constant 5.6ish clock) since then so I reduced the boost back to previous values... it's been set to that for 3 years, I shouldn't mess with it but wanted to prove a point.

I can assure you there are no crashes... prime95 can run 8 core test for 5 hours and nothing happens. There's a difference between contsant clock and boost clock. I average 5Ghz as mentioned before, but AI boosting to 6+. Blame the CPU not me, the AI clock control is turned on and set to something like 8/10 for clock. I set 10/10 when I hit that screenshot posted earlier.

I just found it really amusing that my PC is supposedly a "potato" according to "Linus Tech Tips" over there...

Linus can call me on discord and watch my HWmonitor live just in case I'm lying, if he wants to :buzzed:

Wow so you are saying you can maintain a overclock of 5.7 ghz and not even using liquid nitrogen.

Boost clock my guy, boost clock. Does nobody here understand Ryzen overclocking?

5.7ish boost, but I get spikes up into the 6+ range but i frequently see it floating between 5.0 and 5.7 - and as per my previously posted screenshot, I set it to the maximum AI OC and it peaked at 7.4. It's in the screenshot, see for yourself. I took that at idle, and the cpu was pulling 4.1 while doing nothing. This is how X series AM4 do.
Last edited by Sol; Feb 3, 2023 @ 7:12pm
Nocternaldaze Feb 3, 2023 @ 7:14pm 
Originally posted by Sol:
Originally posted by NocternalDaze:

Wow so you are saying you can maintain a overclock of 5.7 ghz and not even using liquid nitrogen.

Boost clock my guy, boost clock. Does nobody here understand Ryzen overclocking?

5.7ish boost, but I get spikes up into the 6+ range but i frequently see it floating between 5.0 and 5.7 - and as per my previously posted screenshot, I set it to the maximum AI OC and it peaked at 7.4. It's in the screenshot, see for yourself.

You are the only one that doesn`t know that ryzen cpus is pretty much pointless at overclocking. And claiming you overclocked a ryzen 2700x to 6ghz is bs on a large scale, nice trolling my friend.

Edit: would love to see this screenshot you are talking about but haven`t posted ;)
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Sol Feb 3, 2023 @ 7:24pm 
Originally posted by NocternalDaze:
Originally posted by Sol:

Boost clock my guy, boost clock. Does nobody here understand Ryzen overclocking?

5.7ish boost, but I get spikes up into the 6+ range but i frequently see it floating between 5.0 and 5.7 - and as per my previously posted screenshot, I set it to the maximum AI OC and it peaked at 7.4. It's in the screenshot, see for yourself.

You are the only one that doesn`t know that ryzen cpus is pretty much pointless at overclocking. And claiming you overclocked a ryzen 2700x to 6ghz is bs on a large scale, nice trolling my friend.

Edit: would love to see this screenshot you are talking about but haven`t posted ;)
You should try reading. I posted it on page 1, there's a mega link to the screenshot. It's the 8th post of the thread. Your apology is also accepted.
Nocternaldaze Feb 3, 2023 @ 7:33pm 
Originally posted by Sol:
Originally posted by NocternalDaze:

You are the only one that doesn`t know that ryzen cpus is pretty much pointless at overclocking. And claiming you overclocked a ryzen 2700x to 6ghz is bs on a large scale, nice trolling my friend.

Edit: would love to see this screenshot you are talking about but haven`t posted ;)
You should try reading. I posted it on page 1, there's a mega link to the screenshot. It's the 8th post of the thread. Your apology is also accepted.

Lol the one that is still being checked, shows how bs it is.
Nocternaldaze Feb 3, 2023 @ 7:35pm 
Originally posted by NocternalDaze:
Originally posted by Sol:
You should try reading. I posted it on page 1, there's a mega link to the screenshot. It's the 8th post of the thread. Your apology is also accepted.

Lol the one that is still being checked, shows how bs it is.

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Sol Feb 3, 2023 @ 7:40pm 
Originally posted by NocternalDaze:
Originally posted by Sol:
You should try reading. I posted it on page 1, there's a mega link to the screenshot. It's the 8th post of the thread. Your apology is also accepted.

Lol the one that is still being checked, shows how bs it is.
You can't see the link? Gee if steam boards would just allow image embedding in posts, like we used to do since the 1980's on message boards... ancient technology, lost to the ways of dumbed-down ideologies, or something.

What do you propose? What's a link that steam allows? I don't use this much because it's literal cancer and usually so are the people on here. A bit like this very interaction in fact.... feeling like I have to "prove" myself because you demand it. Honestly, I don't care what you believe - it affects me not.

Give me your discord and I will just send it directly to you, or I will stream and you can watch it live... then what? You're going to say "wow I'm sorry man"? Then what?
Nocternaldaze Feb 3, 2023 @ 7:45pm 
Originally posted by Sol:
Originally posted by NocternalDaze:

Lol the one that is still being checked, shows how bs it is.
You can't see the link? Gee if steam boards would just allow image embedding in posts, like we used to do since the 1980's on message boards... ancient technology, lost to the ways of dumbed-down ideologies, or something.

What do you propose? What's a link that steam allows? I don't use this much because it's literal cancer and usually so are the people on here. A bit like this very interaction in fact.... feeling like I have to "prove" myself because you demand it. Honestly, I don't care what you believe - it affects me not.

Give me your discord and I will just send it directly to you, or I will stream and you can watch it live... then what? You're going to say "wow I'm sorry man"? Then what?

I can 100% say that i would not be saying that, there are people who have been overclocking cpus since the 80`s with tons of knowledge that can`t get above 4.4 ghz without it hitting 70 degrees on a ryzen 7 2700x and causing it to crash during a benchmark let alone gaming.
Sol Feb 3, 2023 @ 7:59pm 
Originally posted by R.J.Travis:
Originally posted by Sol:

Wow that's a nice new machine. I am considering a DDR5 build as well, especially after seeing the numbers. Seems like the "true" next-gen is finally here for the motherboard/ram/cpu market.

Mine is a few years old now, but still holding up well... i still get these odd fps problems where it just tanks to 5fps, then back to 60 again maybe 5 seconds later... no idea what's causing it but it's driving me nuts. xD

Anyway, nice machine man - and good results :D

Thanks.

I'm running the game in 4k I should have put that in my first post so i'll edit it in.

This game is very GPU focused and its optimized as well as its really going to get tbh.

If I don't limit my fps it will push my GPU to 80-99% use age but I limit it to 144 to match my monitor.

Its running on UnReal 5 so its going to run poorly on old hardware like almost every big open world unreal 5 game thats not from a big budget studio that can pay to have the code fit their every need. The hard thing to tell people is the most obvious its a small team selling a EA game for 16USD don't expect things to move quickly.
It's a bleeding edge PC, brand new clearly.

Unreal Engine 5 doesn't require new hardware at all... anything in the last 3-5 years should run it acceptably (that's what they claim anyway). It's demonstrated in many cases by the various tech demos available that you can download and run on any RTX capable GPU and other hardware combination. I have had exceptionally good results from many of those demos with my now, ageing hardware.

This game runs now pretty well fine 98% of the time after tweaking some settings and getting it configured the right way... but occasionally something is happening that's just bringing my system to its knees momentarily, then it snaps back to full fps like nothing happened. Obviously something isn't keeping up somewhere, but it should be happening - this is a clear behavioural indication of something at code level that can be improved.

I would love to update to a DDR5 machine though, obviously the gains are so significant that brute force just over-rides the heavy code :steamhappy:
Sol Feb 3, 2023 @ 8:03pm 
Originally posted by NocternalDaze:
Originally posted by Sol:
You can't see the link? Gee if steam boards would just allow image embedding in posts, like we used to do since the 1980's on message boards... ancient technology, lost to the ways of dumbed-down ideologies, or something.

What do you propose? What's a link that steam allows? I don't use this much because it's literal cancer and usually so are the people on here. A bit like this very interaction in fact.... feeling like I have to "prove" myself because you demand it. Honestly, I don't care what you believe - it affects me not.

Give me your discord and I will just send it directly to you, or I will stream and you can watch it live... then what? You're going to say "wow I'm sorry man"? Then what?

I can 100% say that i would not be saying that, there are people who have been overclocking cpus since the 80`s with tons of knowledge that can`t get above 4.4 ghz without it hitting 70 degrees on a ryzen 7 2700x and causing it to crash during a benchmark let alone gaming.

Whatever man, you either believe me or you don't - I don't care. I'm happy to continue this conversation with you on discord or steam chat or whatever but this isn't what this thread was for - you've called my pc a potato and then dodged any responsibility for trash-talk once I figured out what the real cause was.

Literally sitting here right now watching my PC idle at 4.6Ghz while you tell me it's not possible... smdh.

The End. Stop now. Add me to steam if you want to continue (8763185).
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Daimond Feb 3, 2023 @ 8:32pm 
I run max settings on all games, but change shadows to mid and Vsync, sometimes lower or turn off Bloom depending on game and motion blur. I run steady 60 fps, the odd time when driving fast down the road I will drop too about 40 fps, due to all the extra shadows from the power lines that should not be there.
I rarely run in windowed mode, as most games wont use GPU as much and burned CPU more. Also some things don't run right in a game depending on Engine and/or drivers being used EG DX11 or such.

Windows 11
1- LG Monitor 2560x1080 34"
2- LG Monitor 1920 1080, 32"
Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (AMD X570)
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT (24 core, 4.5GHz) (Temp usualy about 70% but, Rarely goes above 95 Deg)
DDR5 32 Gb (Rarely hit 80% used)
GPU; AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT (Temp Rarely goes above 80 Deg)
2- Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1Tb (Windows on 1, other is Games, and Programs that can be installed not on windows drive. )
1- Samsung SSD 860 EVO 2Tb (Working Stuff that changes regularly (pic's, Video's, 3D modeling, Unity projects))
2- WD 2Tb in Dynamic, so one backs up other ( used for long term storage and rarely accessed. )

Reason for lest amount of stuff installed onto the Windows Drive, is mostly due to old habit of old Spinning drives days (lest amount of defragging needed from lack of read/write from drive).
But also never have to worry if drive is filling up and slowing drive down due to reduced Page file space. For thoughts that don't know, Page file is used as a kind of temp form of physical ram that's usually same amount of physical size. When you have less than 20% of that drive space left, Computer will slow down drastically. This normally leads to most people thinking they need a new computer :)
Last edited by Daimond; Feb 3, 2023 @ 8:37pm
Sol Feb 3, 2023 @ 9:04pm 
Nice setup as well Daimond. A see a few people with Radeon GPUs having issues with this game but seems OK for you so that's really great.

What are your game settings on? Are you using the lumen features at all? Wondering how that all performs on AMD GPU.
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