Diesel Legacy: The Brazen Age

Diesel Legacy: The Brazen Age

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EmperoressTrans Jun 12, 2023 @ 7:58pm
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Mike Zaimont, accused of numerous sexual harassment and abuse alligations, is on this project
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ITNoetic Jun 12, 2023 @ 9:05pm 
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Glad to know I'm not the only one who doesn't think a redemption arc entails simply staying quiet and doing nothing to ease the pain that was caused.

I was pretty interested in this game until I heard about that article.

If any other indie fighting game developers out there are reading this: you don't need to hire that man if you want your game to have good rollback netcode. It's not that complicated. Any software engineer can read the same set of articles and have the same understanding of how to do it.
PK² Jun 13, 2023 @ 12:42am 
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I personally don't think it's that deep but man, they shouldn't have hired him at all. Won't leave a bitter taste in my mouth about it but it's a dumb choice and idk why they even went with it. those twins can help you do rollback just fine if that was an issue, prolly best to drop him and move forward i guess. cuz people are only gonna know you as "The Indie Fighting Game MikeZ is working on" and I know they wouldn't want that rep at all.

EDIT: After doing my own research it looks like people might've been wrong about Mike the whole time. It's just how I think at the moment and it's really messed up if you look deeper into it.
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Warxa Jun 13, 2023 @ 11:21am 
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You shouldn't trust PCGamer, they're easily one of the worst gaming journalism websites.

There's evidence that the sexual harassment and abuse allegations are false. There are court documents that revealed that Lab Zero had a private discord channel where they conspired behind Mike Z's back.

A woman named Bunny Ayu on twitter accused him of sexual harassement, with screenshots showing he was simply being awkward after she was the one that made the conversation sexual.

Lab Zero employees then tried to get him to leave the company but he refused. That's when they made a private discord channel to conspire against him. Chat logs show even they admitted that he did nothing wrong and that it would be bad for their reputation if they got rid of him for simply being awkward, so they decided to make up abuse allegations. There were logs showing it was business related reasons.
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PaulThreeSixty Jun 13, 2023 @ 2:20pm 
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Thats the only reason I even checked out this game. MikeZ makes good games. I dont care about some Twitter cancel mob.
BroenOdus Jun 15, 2023 @ 8:09am 
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Originally posted by wildfireXzero:
Transparency is important.

If you want to support a company willing to dismiss trash behavior, you should at least know.

Details:

https://www.pcgamer.com/3-years-after-he-faced-sexual-harassment-allegations-new-fighting-game-diesel-legacy-is-giving-disgraced-skullgirls-developer-mike-zaimont-a-chance-to-prove-hes-now-fundamentally-different/

Allegations don't make a man guilty. There's something called justice and you're not a judge nor a lawyer. As many people in the cancel culture, it's obviously something that you can't understand.
ITNoetic Jun 15, 2023 @ 12:33pm 
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OP told no lies. The off-color joke that was told on stream is on the record, which is trash behavior.

The allegations were the basis for what ultimately happened with Lab Zero, all its staff, and the Skullgirls project. If you wanna call BS on everything in the article, fine, but it's still good to know these things.

The lack of justice in this case is the reason why we're even talking about it.
GWOP-W×TCH Jun 17, 2023 @ 6:59am 
Terminally online folk.
キュウリジョー Jun 18, 2023 @ 12:36am 
Originally posted by ITNoetic:
OP told no lies. The off-color joke that was told on stream is on the record, which is trash behavior.

The allegations were the basis for what ultimately happened with Lab Zero, all its staff, and the Skullgirls project. If you wanna call BS on everything in the article, fine, but it's still good to know these things.

The lack of justice in this case is the reason why we're even talking about it.
This right here tells me all I need to know. It's a non-story. People who are offended have zero grounds to be offended, as per the usual, and are now trying to police the interests of those of us who aren't so easily swayed by making posts about how it's a "bad look" for companies to be associating with someone guilty of wrongthink, wrongspeak, or generally not signaling loudly enough that he's a member of the correct political cabal. Well, the four people who are insufferable enough to boycott a game over this can all enjoy each other's company. The rest of us will be paying absolutely no attention to the impotent screeching.
ITNoetic Jun 18, 2023 @ 2:43pm 
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Originally posted by キュウリジョー:
This right here tells me all I need to know. It's a non-story. People who are offended have zero grounds to be offended, as per the usual, and are now trying to police the interests of those of us who aren't so easily swayed by making posts about how it's a "bad look" for companies to be associating with someone guilty of wrongthink, wrongspeak, or generally not signaling loudly enough that he's a member of the correct political cabal. Well, the four people who are insufferable enough to boycott a game over this can all enjoy each other's company. The rest of us will be paying absolutely no attention to the impotent screeching.

Tell me you didn't read the article without saying you didn't read the article.

If it's such a non-story, why bother commenting? Nobody's policing anything. But my perception of this game changed when I found out that dude was a part of it.

Knowledge is power.
Vassago Rain Jun 19, 2023 @ 5:29am 
Originally posted by PaulThreeSixty:
Thats the only reason I even checked out this game. MikeZ makes good games. I dont care about some Twitter cancel mob.

Same.
cyxceven Jun 26, 2023 @ 9:31pm 
Man. When you tell a joke, and end up blamed for the choke.
Society.
Nekoinabox Jun 26, 2023 @ 9:39pm 
Reminder that countless people attest that the attitude he had, was one most in the office had. he was not the creator of this environment, nor the primary problem. He was someone with mental issues who tried desperately to fit in, and was thrown under the bus for it.

You can't call someone A title, as if he genuinely did it, without showing both sides, the side I shared wasn't his, it was one perspective in the office.
Worst of all? It's clear that the people who took over hate the thing he made, since both games have been neutered and ruined by the new owners. While he thrives being happy making games, not making this about himself, nor taking all the credit.
Kofina Jun 27, 2023 @ 5:49pm 
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Originally posted by Warxa:
You shouldn't trust PCGamer, they're easily one of the worst gaming journalism websites.

There's evidence that the sexual harassment and abuse allegations are false. There are court documents that revealed that Lab Zero had a private discord channel where they conspired behind Mike Z's back.

Some woman on twitter accused him of sexual harassement, with a screenshot that showed he was simply being awkward after she was the one that made the conversation sexual. That woman later deleted her tweet, said that Mike Z apologized to her and told people to stop harassing him.

Lab Zero employees then tried to get him to leave the company but he refused. That's when they made a private discord channel to conspire against him. Chat logs show even they admitted that he did nothing wrong and that it would be bad for their image if they fired him for simply being awkward, so they decided to make up abuse allegations. There were logs showing it was business related reasons.

Not just a private Discord but a slack group too where they conspired to strongarm the company from him.
It's B.S.
Worst of all, the guy has autism, it's bad enough that they have trouble communicating properly.
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NBmadYT Jun 27, 2023 @ 6:46pm 
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now i want to buy it even more
Moe` Jun 28, 2023 @ 12:22am 
Imagine trusting any game journalist in current year.
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