Innocence

[[TU] Barracuda]

The trouble is nothing actually happens on the innocence path at all. The dev needs to add some sort of content, because otherwise there's no "or" really. Obviously, we know what kind of game this is, so the innocence path should contain things that happen to MC that are "not her fault."

[Erencius]

+1

[Alex_infinity]

The choices are there even if obviously the game at the moment is finalized on the road to perdition, but in any case it is only the beginning and it bodes well :)

[fiiiimam]

true dat

[sombrero]

I got most of the scenes and stayed at innocence 995. I allowed the leg stroke. I suspect I would have gotten the rest if I stole from the coffee shop.

As for boding well, the assumption the game seems to make is that sex based only on body shape is better than sex based on emotion. Most folks learn early irl; that is not so.

Nothing happens yet at the massage parlor so if you go that way you can get the scenes at the gym. Those don't involve the mc. That might count as things happening that are not her fault.

Other than that, I'm not sure what could be done otherwise to add much interest to the innocence path. Road to perdition it is.

[[TU] Barracuda]

Originally posted by sombrero:

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Other than that, I'm not sure what could be done otherwise to add much interest to the innocence path. Road to perdition it is.

I mean, there could be plenty done. Without even digging too deep and just based on the few stories already in the game:

1. the coffee shop storyline is based off of stolen money right now. There could be a similar or same version of it in innocence arc. Simply, instead of stealing, the starting event could be "breaking" something by accident, which would be "not her fault."
2. in the landlord arc, instead of asking for increasing amounts of money, the MC could maybe "innocently" tease the guy and gradually get into more a more trouble.

I bet something like this could be created for the future massage parlor route and whatever else. It's not that hard.

[Taril]

Originally posted by TU Barracuda:

Originally posted by sombrero:

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Other than that, I'm not sure what could be done otherwise to add much interest to the innocence path. Road to perdition it is.

I mean, there could be plenty done. Without even digging too deep and just based on the few stories already in the game:

1. the coffee shop storyline is based off of stolen money right now. There could be a similar or same version of it in innocence arc. Simply, instead of stealing, the starting event could be "breaking" something by accident, which would be "not her fault."
2. in the landlord arc, instead of asking for increasing amounts of money, the MC could maybe "innocently" tease the guy and gradually get into more a more trouble.

I bet something like this could be created for the future massage parlor route and whatever else. It's not that hard.

I think one of the problems with that, would be you kind of undermine the entire purpose of having a choice if you just basically end up with the same results either way.

It would be better if the choice of innocence lead to different scenes entirely. Such as more solo stuff (Like after the particular scenario at the massage parlour, as well as the updated shower scenes) and scenes of other characters (Such as her sister).

[DrNewcenstein]

Originally posted by TU Barracuda:

Originally posted by sombrero:

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Other than that, I'm not sure what could be done otherwise to add much interest to the innocence path. Road to perdition it is.

I mean, there could be plenty done. Without even digging too deep and just based on the few stories already in the game:

1. the coffee shop storyline is based off of stolen money right now. There could be a similar or same version of it in innocence arc. Simply, instead of stealing, the starting event could be "breaking" something by accident, which would be "not her fault."
2. in the landlord arc, instead of asking for increasing amounts of money, the MC could maybe "innocently" tease the guy and gradually get into more a more trouble.

I bet something like this could be created for the future massage parlor route and whatever else. It's not that hard.

There is no "innocent" teasing. Some call it "flirting". It's done purposely to get a specific reaction (sexual arousal/interest). If you're going down that road with your landlord, you have two options: put out or get out.

As for the "breaking something/accident" with the coffee shop, it's hardly something to get raped over. I mean, yeah, if you break it too far down, no human with that body can possibly be that stupid and still functional, so you have to suspend disbelief to a degree. I mean, the dialog about being felt-up as a cultural trait is not quite the biggest stretch I've seen (that honor still belongs to "she was chewing gum in random patterns, maybe she was sending Morse code") but it definitely puts the MC in the category of "too stupid to be outside the physical reach of a caretaker".

That said, the "Innocence" path is "work the coffee shop forever for $50 a day and that's it". There should be more options, such as becoming a gym instructor (without the sex), and eventually get an apartment. However, since she's already got the itchy cootchie for her boyfriend, none of this should be a shock to the player. She wants the D, but she'll take a finger.

[sombrero]

A different path might be that in time the boyfriend comes to visit, she has innocent sex with him, he decides to move to the city and let his father lump it. In fact, I am wondering if that might be in the game, but nobody has taken it that far.

[[TU] Barracuda]

There's no reason to go into a philosophical debates over whether or not there is "innocent teasing," especially since it's plain canon that the mc is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, as you, yourself pointed out. And who would want to play the innocence path just so they could use repetitive, rudimentary grind to buy phones, rent apartments and settle down with their boyfriends for a missionary payoff at the end? It's a porn game. The only acceptable meaning of the "innocence or money" choice in this context is: are you going to get seduced because you're, INNOCENT (dumb) and/or can't control yourself, or are you going to "wise up" and make MONEY doing it?

[DrNewcenstein]

Originally posted by TU Barracuda:

There's no reason to go into a philosophical debates over whether or not there is "innocent teasing," especially since it's plain canon that the mc is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, as you, yourself pointed out. And who would want to play the innocence path just so they could use repetitive, rudimentary grind to buy phones, rent apartments and settle down with their boyfriends for a missionary payoff at the end? It's a porn game. The only acceptable meaning of the "innocence or money" choice in this context is: are you going to get seduced because you're, INNOCENT (dumb) and/or can't control yourself, or are you going to "wise up" and make MONEY doing it?

Agreed, it's not a Life Simulator, it's marketed in favor of the "or Money" path, but if you are going to name it "This or That", you should spend time on making "This" just as viable an option as "That", however grindy and ho-hum it is.
Would anyone choose it? Probably not, except to see how fleshed out it was.

It would be nice if there was a "middle ground" option, where she moves in with the BF and sister, but lets random people do her for money, and the BF doesn't mind the occasional 3-way, or she doesn't fuss about him shtupping her barely-legal sister because MC gives head at the massage parlor. But then what? Do you change it to "Innocence, That Grey Area, or Money"?

I mean if the MC wants to be friendly with the locals and let them boff her because she thinks it's some "cultural thing" like getting a Lei put around your neck when you go to Hawai'i, whatever.

[Mad Monk]

Thanks for the free trial, I'm really struggling to know what to say, even though Jennifer is a goddess, I love how you can select the sex scenes, the CG is good and the character/place intro is great, but I find it a bit tedious/repetitive and solely based on money, surely if you were desperate and you knew your boss was keen you'd milk the situation ?. I don't like swapping from one character to another as further in this can get very confusing, I do like the new features (scenes and intro's etc) and this is certainly one to watch.

[DrNewcenstein]

Originally posted by Mad Monk:

Thanks for the free trial, I'm really struggling to know what to say, even though Jennifer is a goddess, I love how you can select the sex scenes, the CG is good and the character/place intro is great, but I find it a bit tedious/repetitive and solely based on money, surely if you were desperate and you knew your boss was keen you'd milk the situation ?. I don't like swapping from one character to another as further in this can get very confusing, I do like the new features (scenes and intro's etc) and this is certainly one to watch.

Well, the premise of the story (so far) is that she's moving to the Big City to get a job to make money, so yeah, it's kinda focused on money.

As for milking the boss for money, apparently she's supposed to be oblivious to her own looks, and she's not quite made the realization that she can charge guys to whack themselves while they watch her strip, or sell them her bathwater.
Thanks to her hostility towards Sylvia, she probably won't get that bit of info.
Lin may help her set up an OnlyFans, where the real money is, but probably not before she gets reamed at the massage parlor.

You don't have to switch to Adam. You have the choice to stay with the MC while Adam gets his rocks off.