So throttle bug is forever?

[hotrodrick]

Is that it? No fix or anything? It seems a tad bit better, acts nothing like wrc10 so im kind of baffled

[stburr91]

Read the pinned thread, there is no throttle bug. If you prefer the throttle in WRC10, then play it instead.

[tompianta]

imagine a 300 hp car sitting on his first gear in an hairpin at 4000 rev and pretend is fine... you don't want to call it throttle bug ? fine... but there is something absolutely wrong with torque at low revs.

[Omence072]

Does it work any better if you use manual with clutch (for hairpins)? I use paddle shifters, so no clue myself.

[TeknoBug]

Originally posted by Omence072:

Does it work any better if you use manual with clutch (for hairpins)? I use paddle shifters, so no clue myself.

No, it's there no matter what settings.

[TeknoBug]

Originally posted by stburr91:

Read the pinned thread, there is no throttle bug. If you prefer the throttle in WRC10, then play it instead.

no bug? you didn't even read that pinned post did you? they mentioned "we have identified an input issue", so yes they admit there is something there.

Also I've been playing sim racing games since the 90's, the throttle behavior in this game is NOT normal and not OK.

[stburr91]

Originally posted by tompianta:

imagine a 300 hp car sitting on his first gear in an hairpin at 4000 rev and pretend is fine... you don't want to call it throttle bug ? fine... but there is something absolutely wrong with torque at low revs.

There is a very simple solution for this "problem", push the throttle pedal until the car accelerates out of the hairpin.

[stburr91]

Originally posted by TeknoBug:

Originally posted by stburr91:

Read the pinned thread, there is no throttle bug. If you prefer the throttle in WRC10, then play it instead.

no bug? you didn't even read that pinned post did you? they mentioned "we have identified an input issue", so yes they admit there is something there.

Also I've been playing sim racing games since the 90's, the throttle behavior in this game is NOT normal and not OK.

I did read the pinned thread, they said there was an input issue with one type of ps controller, and they fixed it. The issue was with only one type of controller, it was not a problem for any other controllers, or pedals.

It doesn't matter how long you have been playing sim racing games, that doesn't mean there is a bug with the throttle, the devs have confirmed that it is working as designed. If you don't like how the throttle works in the game, fine, but there is no bug.

[Omence072]

Originally posted by stburr91:

Originally posted by tompianta:

imagine a 300 hp car sitting on his first gear in an hairpin at 4000 rev and pretend is fine... you don't want to call it throttle bug ? fine... but there is something absolutely wrong with torque at low revs.

There is a very simple solution for this "problem", push the throttle pedal until the car accelerates out of the hairpin.

Being able to control rpm/torque/slippage out of a hairpin can mean the difference of a second or more, especially on slick roads. It's a worthy complaint.

[stburr91]

Originally posted by Omence072:

Originally posted by stburr91:

There is a very simple solution for this "problem", push the throttle pedal until the car accelerates out of the hairpin.

Being able to control rpm/torque/slippage out of a hairpin can mean the difference of a second or more, especially on slick roads. It's a worthy complaint.

Accelerating out of the hairpins isn't an issue with the throttle, I have no problems doing it, now the handbrake has many problem worthy of complaints. People are over rotating in the hairpins because of the handbrake physics, not the throttle.

[wilhelmdevos]

Originally posted by stburr91:

Originally posted by Omence072:

Being able to control rpm/torque/slippage out of a hairpin can mean the difference of a second or more, especially on slick roads. It's a worthy complaint.

Accelerating out of the hairpins isn't an issue with the throttle, I have no problems doing it, now the handbrake has many problem worthy of complaints. People are over rotating in the hairpins because of the handbrake physics, not the throttle.

Please dont comment on throttle issues,you clearly dont know what you are talking about.Leave this for people who have a problem and are looking for a fix.It looks like its only you and the developer who dont have a problem.So please dont comment anymore

[stburr91]

Originally posted by wilhelmdevos:

Originally posted by stburr91:

Accelerating out of the hairpins isn't an issue with the throttle, I have no problems doing it, now the handbrake has many problem worthy of complaints. People are over rotating in the hairpins because of the handbrake physics, not the throttle.

Please dont comment on throttle issues,you clearly dont know what you are talking about.Leave this for people who have a problem and are looking for a fix.It looks like its only you and the developer who dont have a problem.So please dont comment anymore

There are literally thousands of people have no problems with the throttle. In fact, it's only a small minority of people having any problems with the throttle.

Maybe if you would stop being a troll, and listen to the people that know what their talking about, you wouldn't be having problems with the throttle.

All you have to do is modulate the throttle between 50-100% and you won't have any problems with the throttle. If that's too hard for you, then you shouldn't be commenting on the throttle.

[Omence072]

Originally posted by stburr91:

Originally posted by wilhelmdevos:

Please dont comment on throttle issues,you clearly dont know what you are talking about.Leave this for people who have a problem and are looking for a fix.It looks like its only you and the developer who dont have a problem.So please dont comment anymore

There are literally thousands of people have no problems with the throttle. In fact, it's only a small minority of people having any problems with the throttle.

Maybe if you would stop being a troll, and listen to the people that know what their talking about, you wouldn't be having problems with the throttle.

All you have to do is modulate the throttle between 50-100% and you won't have any problems with the throttle. If that's too hard for you, then you shouldn't be commenting on the throttle.

That 50% is around 4k rpm in game. Doesn't give you full use or control over how much acceleration (or traction) out of tight corners.

[tompianta]

Originally posted by stburr91:

Originally posted by tompianta:

imagine a 300 hp car sitting on his first gear in an hairpin at 4000 rev and pretend is fine... you don't want to call it throttle bug ? fine... but there is something absolutely wrong with torque at low revs.

There is a very simple solution for this "problem", push the throttle pedal until the car accelerates out of the hairpin.

You are poisoning every thread about this issue. Do you work for nacoon ?

Your work is bad no other simulation has such bad implementation of a torque of a engine.

300 hp are enough to power drift outside of a corner on tarmac. I m not supposed to sit on first gear waiting the engine to remember its hp...

[Marc Collins]

There is nothing wrong with the throttle per se. If the car is in neutral, you can rev the engine as one would expect and the throttle sensitivity is normal.

But what people are calling the "throttle bug" is:

A) the completely ridiculous non-functioning of the clutch (it is never needed no matter what settings are used or what type of car)

and

B) the completely ridiculous automagic throttle/transmission/gear change/launch programming that affects even cars from the olden days that had zero electronics.

A + B = cars that do not behave in any realistic or plausible manner when you use the throttle. Hence why it is being called the "throttle bug."

So, when will the behaviour of two of the three pedals in the game be fixed so they behave like a throttle and clutch in any of the real cars simulated in the game? When will the drive lines of the cars work like the ones being simulated? I haven't even tried any hybrid models yet because if a game cannot simulate the simplest 100% manual transmission from the 1960's, or a sequential transmission from the 1980's or 1990's, I have no reason to hope they can simulate something that is actually quite complex.

This mess, combined with unnecessarily fiddly FFB settings prevents any enjoyment of the game from those of us who have actually driven a real car and expect the game to resemble such.

[Peter Mathen]

This throttle bug or forced automatic clutch for all cars (yes also the classic cars) is a game breaker for sure and I really regret buying the game.
It's really a shame that KT intended this behavior of the game and blather something about realism ... that's complete nonsense.

So I was going back to DR2 and had a hell of fun in VR with the monthly events.
It seems that a lot of other players see it the same way (at least steamdb shows for WRCG around 520 max concurrent players per day and for DR2 around 2100).