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Yeah, that Sony thread was mine as well. It was removed and I even got a warning. I guess pantsu and oppai aren't the only things gettting censored around here.
It seems to me that "global standards" are just Californian standards. This is why I hate the "West" label slapped unto European nations. I'm not from the USA, never mind California. And I do not like being held to some foreign country's standards.
And yes, adult content is near impossible to censor on PC. Even if developers do not release an uncensored patch, the modders will fix it for sure. Although I must admit I do not like the idea modders need to fix the issues caused by developers, publishers and platforms. But I consider it a lesser evil, and I'm willing to put up with it if all else fails.
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pantie party , a game full of panties on switch too and here they are lying about nintendo don't allow pantie LMAO what about steam ? what's their excuse ?
At no point did the person who posted the tweet said it was certain. They simply mentioned they got a mixed reception from Nintendo, which implied their policies might get more strict. If this passes it will be a huge failure on Nintendo's part. Sony is already going down the drain and is loosing money as we speak. If Nintendo follows that example they are done for.
About Steam this was mentioned in that same tweet:
"For Steam, it will be released pretty soon, we just sent the game for review."
If Steam does end up censoring the game then I'll consider that a bad thing. I'm not making excuses for Steam. Censorship is bad across the board and on all platforms.
If you actually looked at the game being cited there, you'd see that it has graphic depictions of full frontal nudity. Consoles have always "banned" any game that would be classified as "AO" or Adult Only. There should be no surprise that certain games will get blocked on Switch or any other console. If you saw the other tweets, you'd see they were having problems getting it on Steam also.
https://twitter.com/gamuzumi/status/1566814078240264196
Japanese console games aren't even allowed to show bare breasts, no matter what console it's on. Anything like The Witcher, GTAV, or the loads of other games with actual nudity are automatically censored in the Japanese versions.
What's funny here though, is that Valve is the king of censorship. Valve is banning far more games than all the consoles combined. They're also far more strict now than they were when they first started allowing "everything" on Steam. Stuff that released or slipped through in the early days would have no chance of getting released in today's Steam.
You can decide for yourself on what you can play, but those platforms can decide what they want to ship on their platform. It's works both ways.
Japanese developers who're making these kinds of "fanservice" games are very unlikely to go PC exclusive. The problems for console style fanservice games are purely because of Sony. If these Japanese publishers aren't willing to abandon Sony, then what makes you think they'd abandon Sony and Nintendo just so they can release on PC only? If anything you'd see a shift to mobile only, and that's actually happened a lot already.
Yeah, there's always going to be some censorship on all platforms, but Valve is the king of censorship and game banning. The first two Genkai Toki games on Steam would be banned if they tried today. Moero Crystal H and Seven Pirates H aren't on PC for a reason and are Nintendo exclusive.
Yeah, the "off-site" patch is a thing, but it's really only something you see in the Adult game space. Games that are console fanservice games just get censored because of Sony, and then you have to hope that mods might fix it.
It's good I guess that they have those options on PC, but I don't pay money to jump through hoops. I'll go to the specialty adult stores for a game I want unless Steam is the only option, and I won't buy censored games that require mods to fix.
All this text to defend consoles. Well, whatever floats your boat. PC has uncensored patches and mods. And if all else fails we can always raise the black flag and sail the high seas. Now go back to Twitter. We don't do this "console wars" thing over here.
Have a good day.
It's worth mentioning that the Saturn had a bunch of games with nudity on it in Japan, which of course never made it to the west. Including lots of ports of eroge which would have the explicit sex stripped out but would still retain nudity and such. And there were instances even back then of visual novels being released on the Saturn and PSX and being more censored on the latter. But that was before CERO happened, and afterwards it's as you say, all nudity showing genitals or nipples became expressly forbidden in Japan. There was an incident regarding this about two years ago where a strip mahjong game from the Saturn was ported to the Switch with the nudity intact, and it then got removed from sale because that was no longer permitted by CERO. And people who had no idea about those circumstances took that situation as well and spread it around as a "Nintendo bans all lewd content" piece.
Meanwhile PC modders have liberated the Senran Kagura nipples. PC Master Race strikes again. Just more reasons to skip consoles completely.
If anything, Valve's banning of adult games is inconsistent. It's like once in a while some woke Commiefornian diversity hire gets to review one of these games and just brings down the banhammer without a second thought.
There was this visual novel (I don't remember which one) that got banned on Steam, and after a whole lot of backlash the ban was lifted. It shows that the game reviewing team might not always agree with its own assessments.
This is one of the reasons why I stopped favouring the Playstation. They were great up until PS3, then they just lost themselves. I always bought Gundam and the various games. I was a big Sony Playstation fan until the beginning of PS4. Never did get the PS4. I guess it's for the best.
As for the moderation I would have yelled back at them, even if I would have been muted. They have that stupid luxury of muting people, especially in support tickets. I would have kept yelling back at them. You do you, I'm just saying I always yell at moderators who cross the line into abuse. This isn't Reddit, they shouldn't be treating this like Reddit.
I myself slap the label onto Europe because I've seen faux political corruption with them as well. Interact with Germans then you'll see how wide-spread this issue is with the 'California mentality". Because of my stance I always clash with Germans who have been fed the world is all sunshine and rainbows, and how censorship is fine; Abusing retail workers and truckers is perfectly fine.
I know I'm not perfect, I make mistakes, I will always clash with people who are afraid of being themselves. There are a lot of people who are afraid and scared in Europe.
It's near impossible to censor on PC, modders however get far too tardy saying things are "too hard" to lewd up. Then you get the Asian modding group who just does it anyways then keep it in their national social circle.
I have a Switch, I however won't buy it for it. I have a Steam Deck instead that acts like a Switch. I've already had 'Bullet Girls Phantasia' modded nicely, this game needs to follow that route. Just because it offends Vice and the softies doesn't mean every game should be censored for their sake. I'm even glad I can have these indie games modded on my Steam Deck. With how loud my PC is I enjoy some quiet time with a quiet handheld PC.
Nintendo was supposed to be one of the smart ones, I guess not. They're still having an internal conflict between Japan and American ideologies. Look at Pokemon Violet and Scarlet with various characters and how broken the game is. Nobody does internal game testing anymore, let alone at SCS Software over in Czechia who became envious at 'Slovakia' name.
Now in europe t's a bit different, an AO rated game could get a PEGI 18 rating and be okay to get released (there are some differences between how digital and physical releases get treated), on the EU e-shop you can find Perky Little Things, this version contains the censored mode and the mature mode, it's lacking the Adult mode with shows actual genitals and penetration but Mature Mode still has a ton of nudity, it is not available in the US.
Also, uncensored Mugen Souls is coming to Switch.
So, this is you basically sticking your fingers in your ears and telling me to go back to "Twitter", because you have nothing worthwhile to add?
Your other response... "but, we can just illegally download their games then!". Lol, okay, man. Such a great attitude.
You're the one who had to make a special topic to point the finger at Nintendo and censorship without actually doing any research, and to follow it up with the idea that all Japanese games should be PC exclusive... Samurai Maiden being the way it is has nothing to do with Nintendo. Senran Kagura being dead has nothing to do with Nintendo, and countless other examples.
It's funny that you're telling me to go back to "Twitter" when you were literally just complaining about your thread being "censored" here. Answer me this, who's fighting back against the censorship on social media right now?
You could always buy exclusively on European stores, maybe live that GOG life? Unfortunately for you, the PC gaming space is controlled by American companies and that's never going to change. Valve, Microsoft, Epic Games, and so on are all American companies. It's totally fine that you don't like being held to some foreign country's standards, but if you're going to use these platforms then you will accept those standards.
Yeah, but "We don't do this 'console wars' thing over here", right?... Here you go with PC Master race and that other nonsense.
I hear what you're saying and I can see why people would say that, but I'll still say they are, because Valve is banning more games than everyone else combined and by a large margin. Them selling adult games doesn't change that fact.
Valve were the ones who said "everything" would be allowed on Steam unless it was illegal or straight trolling and that they'd no longer be the "taste police", but those statements were lies.
It's not just adult games they're banning either. They've even sabotaged game releases in the past because they don't like the content. Look at 'Gun Gun Pixies' here on Steam, why is that game marked as Adult Only and blocked for most of the audience? The content is the same as console version, which was rated "M" by the ESRB. When the publisher tried to get it fixed and had no idea why it was labelled as such, Valve said there was no error and it was correctly marked.
The edit is pure speculation. There's no proof that a "rogue" employee has been banning games for years without the support of the company they work for. That doesn't really make sense.
So it's not Valve banning them, but a "rogue" employee who works for Valve? To me, it's just a lot of the Steam community being in denial, because they're so emotionally and financially invested in Steam, and a lot of them have the attitude that everything they buy has to be on Steam.
Yeah, GOG are accepting certain games that are banned on Steam or actually selling and hosting uncensored versions of games that need off-site patches on Steam, but that's been a new thing for them. GOG had to make changes and diversify their catalog more because the store is in such bad shape. GOG has such a low market share and the DRM-free policy means that a lot of bigger games will never ship on that store. Cyberpunk 2077 couldn't even manage 10% of the total PC sales on GOG. Their own huge "AAA" game did that bad on their own store, and that game is going to have far higher sales percentage on GOG than non-CD Projekt titles.
Personally, I like to buy any adult games on the specialty stores, because adult games are the business they're in. A JAST USA, Mangagamer, FAKKU, and many others will fight for those types of games, because that's what they're all about. They deserve the help and money and not someone like Steam, or now GOG.