Jeff Vogel on Empire in Queen's Wish 2: The Tormentor

[kirill-busidow]

https://bottomfeeder.substack.com/p/we-released-queens-wish-2-the-tormentor

"I live in an Empire, which projects its power in a huge variety of ways. Not just military, but financial, philosophical, cultural. My Empire competes with other Empires.

Empire is not just a white person game. The biggest Empire-building project in the world right now is China in Africa, and white people aren't even involved".


Jeff, while i do not know where you live, probably your know your country better than me, so i wont comment here, i want to discuss Empire in your game, Empire in your country and Empire in China.

China is not playing Empire in Africa. Your information is incorrect about China.

China never did "Empire" staff:

Never used atomic, nuclear bombs on city.
China never attacked and killed millions of civilians using fake pretext like WMDs.
China does not try to contol whole world. Or instigate revolts to do regime changes, leading to civil wars, refugees and misery in other countries.
China only has 1 military base in the world. Compare this number for example to 1000+ military bases of USA all over the world.

China is independent country whose goal is to live in harmony with the world, not to control it, check your facts please.

[Dorok]

Lol, going to be quickly locked.

Sure USA has their problems and empires behaviors and did errors, but your comment is just showing you are brain washed, not point lost time argue people like you.

I have seen similar brain washing to justify Mad man soviet war.

[kirill-busidow]

Originally posted by Dorok:

Lol, going to be quickly locked.

Why locked? I discuss Empire, since this game is about Empire. And Developer wrote his post about Empire. I discuss Developer post about Empire.

Since it is Developer who starts to talk about China, i just add some facts to discussion. Once again, discussion is started by Developer, i just continue it.

Originally posted by Dorok:

Sure USA has their problems and empires behaviors and did errors

What USA has to do with topic discussed? And what errors you talking about, not following your logic. Also error means doing something by mistake. Doing something with purprose and intent is not an error.

[Dorok]

Originally posted by kirill-busidow:

https://bottomfeeder.substack.com/p/we-released-queens-wish-2-the-tormentor

More interesting that some war propagenda USA/China I totally don't care argue about.

This article/review is quoting QW3 will be the last RPG of the dev. The dev explains it's a matter of being too old so less fast and with less or no more ideas. But I would bet it's also because of income low down instead of increase. So it's also a matter of a player niche disappearing.

For that aspect myself I have been hurt by dev comments on blind fast bans of users. Not because the dev ever banned me, but because I can't bear hypocrite manipulators and hypocrite paladin personalities "loving" everybody, sure... Sigh. But even if it was close the dev didn't lost me in his fans pool, I bought games and hintbooks regularly, even for remakes despite I tend play them only for a part.

What's annoying is no other indie RPG dev achieved develop a niche market around indie RPG. Eschalon Books series gave hopes, but failed only achieving finish the series before the dev disappear. The cause is most probably a global evolution of players.

EDIT:
Locked thread: Because if the thread title isn't politic, OP is, and it's out of steam forum rules, no matter you like it or not, you play game having politics elements, or religious elements, or other forbidden topics, but you can't argue on those topics, sigh.

[kirill-busidow]

Originally posted by Dorok:

Originally posted by kirill-busidow:

https://bottomfeeder.substack.com/p/we-released-queens-wish-2-the-tormentor

More interesting that some war propagenda USA/China I totally don't care argue about.

Read article in link. It is developer who talks about China.
I quoted Developer in first post of this topic, just to add more facts to the discussion.

[Dorok]

Originally posted by kirill-busidow:

Originally posted by Dorok:

More interesting that some war propagenda USA/China I totally don't care argue about.

Read article in link. It is developer who talks about China.
I quoted Developer in first post of this topic, just to add more facts to the discussion.

I saw, it's not changing what I already said. I don't care of your propaganda, it's trash for me.

You should realize you are brain washed.

And for Arguing China control on Internet and coms is a protection against USA, perhaps a bit, but it won't change you are in a context allowing more easily to brain wash a mass of people even if not all.

EDIT:
On start if you don't want look brain washed, you need develop/admit empire aspects of modern China. Jeff agreed with few words that USA had empire behaviors on multiple aspects before commenting as shortly on China.

[Spiderweb]

I'm afraid it is necessary to lock this thread. If you want to complain about my Empire comments, the blog post you link to is the best place. Thanks!