Bull

[rjdaddyrjdadio]

So does bull get lifesteal? If not what are some other ways to win with bull, I'm not very good at this game yet but I'm trying, hoping I can win with more characters.

[NiceSchwanz_Bro]

it is actually one - and this is the most important - trick: go for dodge.

[Bumc]

Dodge and speed seem counterproductive on bull, because you want to take damage. But in fact you don't, you want enemies to clump up first and if possible hit softer targets and splash on meaner ones.
If you get blood donation then you don't even want to get hit at all.
Lifesteal sort of works on bull (because you hit multiple targets per explosion), but is not really worth going for, unless you happen to stack some mice (+10% enemy density item that also gives some lifesteal on top).

[Prometheus]

To RJ. Your question tells me you don't understand how lifesteal works in this game. Its a chance per hit to gain 1 health. So 10% lifesteal is a 10% chance to get 1 health on hit. Its a terrible stat for Bull.

To Bumc. Bull is about taking damage at exact moments that you control. Speed is a huge deal for that.

[Drifter]

Stack regen, armor and some movement speed for survivability. Late game you can get some dodge if you want (not needed), but you don't want it early or mid, as it will make your ability to deal damage too random, thus hurting your economy. Lifesteal is terrible, as your explosion does not happen often enough to make use of it, so don't be afraid to take items that reduce it.

If you see Blood Donation in shop, buy it immediately, it will make you much stronger. You also want to buy every explosion upgrade, especially the radius one.

[Casurin]

Originally posted by Promethian:

Its a terrible stat for Bull.

No it isn't. Builds with AoE damage are the ones that best benefit from lifesteal. Lifesteal it self is not a great stat, but certainly not bad on bull.

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by Casurin:

Originally posted by Promethian:

Its a terrible stat for Bull.

No it isn't. Builds with AoE damage are the ones that best benefit from lifesteal. Lifesteal it self is not a great stat, but certainly not bad on bull.

The fact that he has to take damage in order to attack means that a chance of 1HP heals just isn't going to be relevant.

[Maudius Aurelius]

I just beat DL 5 on bull a few hours ago. Not a flex. Took me forever and my hand hurts.

According to the wiki, lifesteal, attack speed, and range are useless stats for the Bull.

[https://brotato.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Bull] Brotato Bull Wiki [/url]

Grab anything that subtracts from them and adds to other stuff. For me, the always gets are luck, +explosive anything, +armor, +dodge, +HP regen, and finally speed, in that order.

The higher you can get luck as early as you can, the better the stuff you will get the rest of the game. As others have said Blood Donation is god tier on Bull. I also really like Hunting Trophy, which has a chance to give more money on kill, but then you need to worry about critical as well. If you are crushing it already, it is a good way to make more cash.

I would also avoid harvest, its not useless but you need to buy a lot of things, and it always has negatives counter to your goals. I boosted luck very hard and received crown two separate times on round 8. I died both of those times, but it is possible. I would try harvest then, but that's about it.

It is also important to buff %damage, ranged damage, melee damage, and elemental damage. All will increase the damage your explosions will do. You don't need to go crazy with these, at least keep them positive, but dynamite is far more cost effective.

If you are still dieing, you are going too hard in one direction, either too aggressive or defensive; cant be a paper cannon, but your damage will fall off a cliff. You also need a certain amount of speed LATER to deal with bosses and crazy nonsense.

[thunda]

Originally posted by Casurin:

Originally posted by Promethian:

Its a terrible stat for Bull.

No it isn't. Builds with AoE damage are the ones that best benefit from lifesteal. Lifesteal it self is not a great stat, but certainly not bad on bull.

Bull doesnt do anything with lifesteal, since Bull doesnt attack. Lifesteal only works off of attacks. So yeah its a pretty bad stat on Bull I'd say

[Casurin]

Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:

The fact that he has to take damage in order to attack means that a chance of 1HP heals just isn't going to be relevant.

Originally posted by thunda:

Bull doesnt do anything with lifesteal, since Bull doesnt attack. Lifesteal only works off of attacks. So yeah its a pretty bad stat on Bull I'd say

Both of you seem to have a wrong understanding on how bull or lifesteal works:
The explosion he causes is AoE-Damage, hitting multiple enemies at once. EACH HIT has a chance to trigger lifesteal. If you got 10% lifesteal and hit 10 enemies that means you can expect to get 1 HP heal.
That is not much but for Bull that is getting healed exactly when he needs heal.

[thunda]

Originally posted by Casurin:

Both of you seem to have a wrong understanding on how bull or lifesteal works:
The explosion he causes is AoE-Damage, hitting multiple enemies at once. EACH HIT has a chance to trigger lifesteal. If you got 10% lifesteal and hit 10 enemies that means you can expect to get 1 HP heal.
That is not much but for Bull that is getting healed exactly when he needs heal.

Where are my heals bro?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICU1IGlAMEg

Like youve been told, Bull doesnt attack. Only attacks can trigger lifesteal. Thats the same reason turrets dont trigger lifesteal, they are not attacks.

[Chris Goddard]

Ouch