Dwarf is the worst design in this game so far

[Wadowicki Goblin]

Forcing to attack specific group and number of enemies in a game where you can't stop attacking. Anti-fun

[Bumc]

You can stop attacking by using manual attacks instead but yeah otherwise its a footwork exercise.

Imho better minigame than soldier stutterstep carpal tunnel.

[elite outsider]

but it allows you to gain a small amount of engineering! wow!!!!!

[Bumc]

Its a lot of damage actually on waves 9-10, if you manage to get there intact with half a potato.

[elite outsider]

maybe.. but still, why are half the characters just pointlessly specific exercises in playing the game badly like that?

nobody is going to use manual aim to let a crowd build up unless they're playing dwarf or going for the achievement to unlock dwarf

if you think of a dwarf in fantasy media, is that really what comes to mind? he hits 20 people at once with a hammer and also has turrets for some reason?

[Bumc]

Naming could use some work that's for sure.

[-Horst]

I dont like him either, too hard to get an advantage.

[HeraldOfOpera]

You don't even really need them to build up, you'll passively get an irresponsible amount of Engineering just by playing the game normally.

[Broseidon]

dwarfs in media are often depicted as being great blacksmiths, and engineering is closest to that so that works.

and it's only in the first few waves where you have to kite the enemies a bit to get a big enough group, later it will just proc a lot on it's own without actually aiming for it, since the waves get denser. also alien + rats for more enemies are always good.

[elite outsider]

so would you say the anvil is the dwarf's closest themed item in this game? why or why not?

just completely disingenuous as usual. obviously hitting a bunch of people at once with a hammer is something an ogre/giant does. they even have that in the dlc as one of the other characters!

[Wadowicki Goblin]

Originally posted by Bumc:

You can stop attacking by using manual attacks instead but yeah otherwise its a footwork exercise.

Imho better minigame than soldier stutterstep carpal tunnel.

You can't. You will still attack automatically, only into a direction of mouse.

[GeminiEclipse]

Originally posted by Broseidon:

dwarfs in media are often depicted as being great blacksmiths, and engineering is closest to that so that works.

and it's only in the first few waves where you have to kite the enemies a bit to get a big enough group, later it will just proc a lot on it's own without actually aiming for it, since the waves get denser. also alien + rats for more enemies are always good.

They are also depicted as tough. But this version is squishier than normal characters due to the slower attack speed. Not much of a dwarf.

[elite outsider]

Originally posted by Jobin:

Originally posted by Bumc:

You can stop attacking by using manual attacks instead but yeah otherwise its a footwork exercise.

Imho better minigame than soldier stutterstep carpal tunnel.

You can't. You will still attack automatically, only into a direction of mouse.

you click while aiming away so it swings at nothing and the weapons all go into cooldown, then you can walk up and swing all at once. but even then the problem is you probably have multiple weapons sweeping over the same area and the crowd is in a small pizza slice shape next to you (so the weapons will rob each other of kills and not trigger the +engineering)

at the end of the day the people saying "don't try to hyper optimize the dwarf mechanic, just play normally and it will grow fast on wave 9+" are right

[Spawnling]

Just had a lot of fun with a spear dwarf. 2 hammers, 4 spears, 286 engineering without trying to aim into groups.
I find these characters funny, when you find out they work with things you wouldn't expect.
Like a knife ogre worked astonishingly well, because knives have a x4 crit multiplier.