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RNG needs to change!
250+ hours on this game and I've yet to unlock the Nuclear launcher even ONCE! Same goes for explosion size upgrades, etc. No matter what I do to boost my run towards explosion synergies, I get screwed by the end because I'm stuck with cutters which don't scale well with range. Then If i do get any launchers at all, it's maybe 1 or two but then I have no explosion size or explosive damage mods. It is absolutely ridiculous that the dev has let die-hard and loyal players on an early access game like this deal with the ridiculous RNG. CHANGE IT!

I've tried everything! Luck, combining my weapons early to get them to higher level in hope of getting higher level weapons in shop. Nothing works.
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Zeel Ara Mar 19, 2023 @ 10:44pm 
You are adorable :)
Azael Mar 20, 2023 @ 4:28am 
Troll?
Originally posted by Ratley:
You are adorable :)

Oh how adorable, a toxic shill :)
Deathraven13 Mar 20, 2023 @ 5:20am 
Nothing we can do about this issue OP.

What do you suggest to solve this issue ? A custom tagging system ?
kraussndhouse Mar 20, 2023 @ 7:01am 
Originally posted by Deathraven13:
Nothing we can do about this issue OP.

What do you suggest to solve this issue ? A custom tagging system ?

I'm not sure, but I do know that if I unlock an item about 50 hours into the game, I should have seen it at least once in the proceeding 200 hours of gameplay. I have seen the nuclear launcher exactly 0 times.

I'm not trolling. I'm being serious. The drop rate just needs to higher.
Deathraven13 Mar 20, 2023 @ 8:32am 
Originally posted by kraussndhouse:
I'm not sure, but I do know that if I unlock an item about 50 hours into the game, I should have seen it at least once in the proceeding 200 hours of gameplay. I have seen the nuclear launcher exactly 0 times.

I'm not trolling. I'm being serious. The drop rate just needs to higher.

Don't worry I believe you, granted that I don't know the drop rate of items but since it's RNG you could have very bad luck, RNG can really be bad like in XCOM games, in some missions I can miss most shots above 60% hit and never miss shots below 60%......

Aside a custom tagging system I don't have any idea what could be changed, and said changes can only be made by the dev, unless there is a mod that do that, I suppose mods are the only I can give you right now., I can't pinpoint a mod that would do this tho.
Calamity Heart Mar 20, 2023 @ 11:05am 
Originally posted by kraussndhouse:
250+ hours on this game and I've yet to unlock the Nuclear launcher even ONCE! Then If i do get any launchers at all, it's maybe 1 or two but then I have no explosion size or explosive damage mods.

...Wait, which is it? Have you not got it even once, or have you actually gotten them but just rarely?

Nuke launchers start purple. You're not going to see them early at all, and you're definitely not going to see them very often even late into the game on a regular run. So if you're only seeing it super rarely, that makes sense.

Luck stacking for higher rarity shop items and having a lot of explosive weapons like shredders or preferably pivoting into a couple of rocket launchers, as they have both the same tags that the nuke launcher does and thus increases the chance of them appearing even more, is pretty much all you can do to boost your odds.

Run artificer as well, assuming you aren't already, or any character that can start with the Shredder.
Bumc Mar 20, 2023 @ 1:31pm 
Artificer with shredder start sees nuke launchers maybe every 3-4 runs unless you really minmax your chances.
OP is either exaggerating or doesn't really play explosive build, kinda rare to find nuke without any relevant tags already in hands.
Azael Mar 20, 2023 @ 3:33pm 
Well, I have only 150h but i've seen plenty of nukes, without playing explosives. Enough hours to have seen every item at least 20+ times. Either OP is exaggerating or really likes the music in the menu (which is understandable).

Try starting shredders (don't take other weapons), pivot into rocket launchers. Take some luck. You should be getting nuke regulary.
Anhigen Mar 20, 2023 @ 6:03pm 
Originally posted by Calamity Heart:
...Wait, which is it? Have you not got it even once, or have you actually gotten them but just rarely?

Nuke launchers […] rocket launchers […]

They are saying that the only launchers they get are rocket launchers and when they do get them they also don’t get other explosive items.
Zeel Ara Mar 20, 2023 @ 6:39pm 
Originally posted by Anhigen:
Originally posted by Calamity Heart:
...Wait, which is it? Have you not got it even once, or have you actually gotten them but just rarely?

Nuke launchers […] rocket launchers […]

They are saying that the only launchers they get are rocket launchers and when they do get them they also don’t get other explosive items.

And also that that is after 250 hours. Which is where it becomes apparent that they're either lying or delusional.
Last edited by Zeel Ara; Mar 20, 2023 @ 6:39pm
Azael Mar 20, 2023 @ 6:41pm 
Originally posted by Anhigen:
Originally posted by Calamity Heart:
...Wait, which is it? Have you not got it even once, or have you actually gotten them but just rarely?

Nuke launchers […] rocket launchers […]

They are saying that the only launchers they get are rocket launchers and when they do get them they also don’t get other explosive items.

Which is very doubtful
RedShirt Mar 21, 2023 @ 12:04am 
Ok, the post is a little juvenile, but I haven't seen the nuke launcher in a while. That said, when I think about it I haven't seen some of the weapons since the last update. Like sniper, or minigun and launchers were a little rare. Are we 100% positive the last major update didn't break anything?
FIRE&ASHES Mar 21, 2023 @ 7:22am 
hi , remember RARE & uniek drops in the shop are ughmm wel RARE , but pump up your luck , around 80-100 luck is the sweet spot, even the ectra damage against bosses &elite, above 100 is good but its more for during the run too give better loot, like fruit or boxes
Anhigen Mar 21, 2023 @ 4:51pm 
Originally posted by Ratley:
they're either lying or delusional.

I was clarifying because I felt they were being misquoted/that the reply was a bit obtuse--lol, I can I think that OP might be using some hyperbole without thinking they're being deceitful or delusional.

Originally posted by Azael:
Which is very doubtful

Maybe in 250+ hours, I also haven't checked to see if they've even played that long either, but does the RNG system need some work? Yeah, probably.

I think in particular that the tagging system needs to be properly fore-fronted or sign-posted to players--it controls the game ENTIRELY and yet if you didn't learn about it through YouTube videos or wikis you'd have no idea about it. It's not even so much that you need to get the properly tagged items for your build but that you have to avoid other tags as well--more runs are probably ruined by having too many tags rather than not having the right ones.

At any rate, it's weird doing an Artificer run and not coming across the elemental book or a nuclear launcher or plasma hammer.
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Date Posted: Mar 19, 2023 @ 7:57pm
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